Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-25 Thread autopilot

I think it would really help if Power Management was in just advanced
settings, not under 'factory test' - does not really make any sense and
obviously people are not finding it despite looking.


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-25 Thread bpa

 
 think it would really help if Power Management was in just advanced
 settings, not under 'factory test' - does not really make any sense and
 obviously people are not finding it despite looking.
 

The developers are way ahead of you. In another thread RTitmuss posted
that the final decision on exposing these setting to users has nmot
been taken.  These setting will then be either removed or moved into
advanced.


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-25 Thread IPGuy

My firmware version is 7.01r2318


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-25 Thread bpa

That release is later than mine.

I think you should read Richard's post, open a bug (if one is not
already open) and send the log off your SBC. 

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=293845postcount=7


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-25 Thread ik632

I usually stick my controller in the cradle when I go to bed and pull it
out when I eat breakfast. It lasts all day and usually wants a charge
before bed. I suspect that it won't last as long during a party
environment, but it should last.


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-24 Thread IPGuy

I am having the same problem with a new Duet.  Could it be a bad
battery?  Is there a place to set the suspend mode timing that may have
gotten inadvertently changed with the firmware update?  If I can't
figure this out it is going back to logitech, as the whole purpose for
my purchase was to have the remote laying around the house for quick
use, without having to go into the room with the stereo equipment.


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-24 Thread bpa

What release hgave you installed ?

Recently there were a few releases where battery saving seem to have
been disabled but after a recent update - power saving is operational
again.

Check Settings/Advanced/Factory Test/Power Management

Make sure 
Suspend Enabled - checked 
Suspend Wake - unchecked
Wireless Power Save - Checked.


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-10 Thread autopilot

panter;289628 Wrote: 
 
 How many batteries have you wired to the Controller?? 4 days?? That
 absolutely impossible for mine Controller.

No, just one normal regular battery. when i was on the beta test
program we only ever got a few hours, even when it was just lying still
not being used. 

After they added the power management to it it now will last a few days
out of the cradle if just lying there not being used. After an certain
time, the Wifi (the main battery drain) and screen are turned off, CPU
is also throttled down too. 

Sounds to me like your Controller is not going into one of the
sleep/suspend modes - when you pick it up, you should not have to press
anything - but will see a 'please wait' screen while it wakes up and
reconnects.

See here - http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?JivePowerModes


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-09 Thread Ben Sandee
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 5:18 PM, MrSinatra 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 these are ominous omens for when you can use it as a player via
 headphone jack.


If this capability ever comes to fruition, I would hope that it would
support the seamless sync/download of tracks from SqueezeCenter to the
controller's memory card (expandable), and then when playing music it would
play directly off the card with the wireless off.  The ability to disable
wireless should increase battery life dramatically.  Granted, iPods are a
much cheaper and simpler alternative to this, but I would not buy an iPod
simply for this purpose because I rarely use it.  This would be a neat
value-add for me.

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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-09 Thread markr

autopilot;289236 Wrote: 
 Mine has lasted 4 days out of the cradle. Are you sure its going into
 suspend mode properly?

When I leave the controller out of the charger for some time, the
controller shutdown. That is, it takes about 20 seconds to 'wake up'
after pressing the power button of the controller. This is not a
low-power issue, battery is full.

Is that what you mean  by 'suspend mode'? Or might the unit be
defective?


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-09 Thread panter

markr;289580 Wrote: 
 When I leave the controller out of the charger for some time, the
 controller shutdown. That is, it takes about 20 seconds to 'wake up'
 after pressing the power button of the controller. This is not a
 low-power issue, battery is full.

Mine Controller does the same and I think this is the correct behavior.


I did a sort of a test today.

The battery lasted very close to 12 hours after I tooked it out of the
cradle.
I guess I used the controller about 10-15 minutes in total over the
whole day. Max.
Did 3 or 4 wake-ups after had been not used for some time. 
Did 1 firmware upgrade - r2178.

The wireless conditions are very good.

Thats all! That can't be normal?


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-09 Thread Ben Sandee
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:22 PM, panter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 The battery lasted very close to 12 hours after I tooked it out of the
 cradle.
 I guess I used the controller about 10-15 minutes in total over the
 whole day. Max.
 Did 3 or 4 wake-ups after had been not used for some time.
 Did 1 firmware upgrade - r2178.


Since updating to firmware r2178 today, my controller never goes into deep
sleep mode.  Did you notice it go into this mode after updating?  Could be
why it died so quickly.

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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-09 Thread panter

I updated it just one hour or two before it died. I do not know which
mode or state it was in then. I just saw the display light up and it
said low battery and then dark, dead. Now it's in the cradle.


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-09 Thread MrSinatra

Ben,

i had to reset some options after 2178, like player sleep mode, but i
also had done a factory reset.

i would recheck all the settings, (all the power ones like screen saver
etc) are not all in the same place.

also, the card idea is cool, and i agree the SBC should give you the
option to turn off parts of it, like wireless, you aren't using at the
moment...

however, i'm hoping we get at least an hour out of it as a headphone /
wireless player.  (mow the grass + net radio?)  i was expecting two or
three, but that now seems unlikely.


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-09 Thread iPhone

panter;289219 Wrote: 
 What is now your experience with the Controllers battery life?
 
 For me it's not even close to a full day, most of the time just laying
 there, and it's empty.
 
 Fw r2171.

If mine is lying about, I get about 4 days before needing to cradle it.
If I am picking it up and using it often, it goes 2 sometimes 2 and a
half days.

Three questions: Did you play with it when you first received it or did
you charge it for over 8 hours before using it? Do you have a strong or
weak WIFI signal? Do you make sure you hear a beep when you place it
in the cradle?

Check your controller settings and select the shortest times and see
what happens. I hear other people talking about 20 and 30-second
wake-up times. Is this a guess or actually timed? Most of the time my
SBC is up and running in 5 to 7 seconds. Once after being gone for two
days, it took about 12 seconds to wake up. I wonder if WIFI signal
strength has anything to do with the different times people are
reporting for wake up or if it just seems that long because others are
not actually timing it.


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[slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-08 Thread panter

What is now your experience with the Controllers battery life?

For me it's not even close to a full day and it's empty.

Fw r2171.


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-08 Thread autopilot

Mine has lasted 4 days out of the cradle. Are you sure its going into
suspend mode properly?


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Re: [slim] Battery life - not good..

2008-04-08 Thread MrSinatra

these are ominous omens for when you can use it as a player via
headphone jack.


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