Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
Hi there, I just hooked up my SliMP3 to a lab power supply and stepped down the voltage from 5V. Guess what, below ~4.6V audio drops out but otherwise the device works (receives IR commands, display working properly, shows playing progress, etc.). So it seems the DAC is the first to quit when the input voltage gets too low whereas the rest of the device keeps working. Stepping the voltage back up leads to heavy distortions first until it recovers at ~4.65V. And it takes just 0.45A at this voltage so its power consumption is only a bit more than 2.1 Watts which I find pretty amazing. It is typical for switching power supplies that they fail to keep up the specified voltage sooner or later, depending on the load. Mostly this is due to dying filter capacitors in the secondary stage of the power supply. This does not happen all at once but is a slow but steady process so the effective voltage delivered will ramp down very slowly over time. Yours might just be in a state where the voltage is sufficient for everything except the DAC. So the PSU - once again - would by my prime suspect here. They are dirt cheap (unless you want something really well-made) so I would recommend to replace it. It's very likely this brings your SliMP3 back to full glory. Cheers, Joe PN me if your Boom / Classic / Transporter display has issues! Blog: https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?rinli=1=1=5053304027701850753#allposts JoeMuc2009's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23131 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
justwords wrote: > I also have a slimp3 (first one from 2000 or 2001). As I read that LMS > 8.2.1 supports slimp3 again, I connected it to my system. The displays > shows playback, but there is no sound. Some have suggested a new pus. > What is this? I originally had some Sony remote that came with it, might > there be some special settings? With lms i cannot find anything special If it says it plays but there is no sound its unlikely a power supply issue, but rather a problem with connection to amplifier or a non updated LMS version (I left an issue with the first 8.2 release that should be corrected now in nightly 8.2.1) LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
justwords wrote: > I also have a slimp3 (first one from 2000 or 2001). As I read that LMS > 8.2.1 supports slimp3 again, I connected it to my system. The displays > shows playback, but there is no sound. Some have suggested a new pus. > What is this? I originally had some Sony remote that came with it, might > there be some special settings? With lms i cannot find anything special Presumably "pus" is "psu" or power supply. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
I also have a slimp3 (first one from 2000 or 2001). As I read that LMS 8.2.1 supports slimp3 again, I connected it to my system. The displays shows playback, but there is no sound. Some have suggested a new pus. What is this? I originally had some Sony remote that came with it, might there be some special settings? With lms i cannot find anything special Logitech Media Server Version in Max2Play 7.9 (Raspberry 3B, 4 x Squeezebox Radio, 1 x Squeezebox Boom, 2 x Squeezebox Duet, iPeng (iOS), Squeeze Play (Android). Amazon Echo, 3 x Echo Dot (sadly not connected to LMS). justwords's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52020 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
JoeMuc2009 wrote: > Hi there, and sorry for picking this up only now... > I agree with bpa that this is probably just the PSU that died. Please > try a new 5V/2A power supply first, it might resolve it all for good. It's actually working again now! I didn't really 'do' anything. Just took it all apart, then put it back together. Now it's working. Maybe not for long? But it's working. Gingermagic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30509 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
Hi there, and sorry for picking this up only now... I agree with bpa that this is probably just the PSU that died. Please try a new 5V/2A power supply first, it might resolve it all for good. PN me if your Boom / Classic / Transporter display has issues! Blog: https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?rinli=1=1=5053304027701850753#allposts JoeMuc2009's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23131 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
Gingermagic wrote: > Yes, the visuals are fine. I think there is hope that it is repairable, as SLiMP3 is not that complicated but some parts are no longer be available. A partial list of parts is given in the download from this URL. https://docplayer.fr/69612085-Slim-devices-la-musique-autrement-rejoignez-l-association-des-amis-de-saint-hilaire-page1.html Look at page 19-20. I suspect JoeMuc2009 would be best person to fix ( see https://joes-tech-blog.blogspot.com/) - however if you are in the UK - you may need a carnet for the SLiMP3 to avoid paying duty twice. Maybe even PM JoeMuc2009 for this thoughts. A Hifi repair shop would be next best choice but probably with a lot of Covid compliant "handholding". bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
bpa wrote: > Does display work and react as if playing tracks ? > If not then check PSU.- most common fault with SB players. Yes, the visuals are fine. Gingermagic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30509 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
Gingermagic wrote: > Hi bpa, > > I don't seem to be able to get anything out of the SliMP3 at the moment. > On the upstairs system, it's just silent. > > I'll try plugging it in downstairs again. That's where it was initially > very badly breaking up, but maybe that was it's 'last stand', and it's > now just silent after a reboot? Does display work and react as if playing tracks ? If not then check PSU.- most common fault with SB players. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
bpa wrote: > Back to the SliMP3. > > Is there audio coming out of both channel but it just sound terrible ? > > If so, then it is possible failure of some components on final output > stage such as caps which typically fail with age. Caps are relatively > easy to replace. Hi bpa, I don't seem to be able to get anything out of the SliMP3 at the moment. On the upstairs system, it's just silent. I'll try plugging it in downstairs again. That's where it was initially very badly breaking up, but maybe that was it's 'last stand', and it's now just silent after a reboot? Gingermagic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30509 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
Back to the SliMP3. Is there audio coming out of both channel but it just sound terrible ? If so, then it is possible failure of some components on final output stage such as caps which typically fail with age. Caps are relatively easy to replace. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
alfista wrote: > Sounds to me like a perfect application for 'the DAC32' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113633-DAC32-low-cost-high-performance-music-streamer). Thanks alfista, I've not heard of that before. If it had a LAN port, it would be a great option! Not so good for this situation as it's wifi only. Gingermagic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30509 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
Gingermagic wrote: > > > > - Do any of the cheaper DAC's output to RCA cables, or do I need to > get an adaptor to feed the RCA's into a 3.5mm socket? - I boot from USB. If I buy a USB splatter, to enable the use of the > DAC, will booting from USB still work? - Will all of this be fine, or is it asking a Joggler to do too > much? > > > > Have you tried the 3.5mm socket out of the Joggler? While not fantastic sound it might be good enough ... especially as it only needs a cable. I have booted Joggler from a USB stick attached via a powered USB 2 hub and connected a DAC to the same hub and it all worked. However, I might have been lucky. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
Sounds to me like a perfect application for 'the DAC32' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113633-DAC32-low-cost-high-performance-music-streamer). alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] I think my SliMP3 just died
Hi All, Yesterday, my wife told me about really bad playback on the kitchen system. At first, I assumed it was down to the Joggler that I added a few weeks ago, as that's the newest piece of kit, but that seemed fine and the playback was still awful when using the SliMP3 alone. I switched the SliMP3 with my SqueezeBox2, and that worked fine. So, I've narrowed things down to the SliMP3. There could be a power issue (the SqueezeBox2 adaptor will power the SliMP3, but the SliMP3 adaptor won't power the SqueezeBox2), but it seems to turn on fine with its own adaptor. When I put the SliMP3 what the SqueezeBox2 came from, I can't get any sound out at all. All looks well, but just silence. So, my choices are to either buy a replacement Squeeze device, or buy a DAC for the Joggler. I don't have a very impressive sound system, so a cheap(ish) DAC should do me. If that's my best option, my questions are: - Do any of the cheaper DAC's output to RCA cables, or do I need to get an adaptor to feed the RCA's into a 3.5mm socket? - I boot from USB. If I buy a USB splatter, to enable the use of the DAC, will booting from USB still work? - Will all of this be fine, or is it asking a Joggler to do too much? Thanks, Damian Gingermagic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30509 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113945 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
