Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-08-25 Thread garym

bobkoure;571918 Wrote: 
 Can you even produce M3U playlists with iTunes? And, if you can, can you
 then use that playlist with some other non-iTunes software on that same
 PC to play those tunes, or are the tunes somehow locked up?
 
 Sorry, I have no experience with iTunes, so I can't help you with any
 of that.
 
 However, if you can get a working m3u, you can just copy it into your
 sbs playlists folder.
 
 That said, MusicIP got a lot easier to install after those of us who
 complained went through the process. It's also easier if you're running
 SBS on a windows box.

google convert itunes playlist to m3u and you'll find lots of stuff.
It can't be done directly from itunes, but there are plenty of
conversion programs.


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-08-25 Thread Philip Meyer

 
 But what I ultimately want to do from my duet remote: when I listen to
 a song, invoke the Genius functionality and within seconds have a
 playlist created in squeezebox and available for play.  This feature is
 simply magic when you have a large music base that is properly tagged.
 
This is exactly what MusicIP does; it's much better than Genius:

1. Supports more file formats, not just mp3 and Apple formats.
2. It analyses the content of the music to find similarities, not
dependent on properly tagged music metadata.
3. You have some control over how it makes mixes (eg. how similar music
is selected, whether to have smooth transitions between songs, etc).
4. You can choose what music to include/exclude from mixes.

It's not particularly hard to install in a basic setup.  i.e. just
install the product, point it at your music library and let it scan. 
Then rescan SBS and it should work, as long as MusicIP client GUI is
running.

There is more sophisticated installations (i.e. to run MusicIP as a
service that doesn't require the GUI client to be open), but take one
step at a time.


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-08-25 Thread Philip Meyer

garym;571987 Wrote: 
 google convert itunes playlist to m3u and you'll find lots of stuff.
 It can't be done directly from itunes, but there are plenty of
 conversion programs.

Doesn't the SBS iTunes plugin support playlists?  I don't use the
iTunesSBS import features, but I thought that when this was enabled,
you just rescan in SBS, and it imports items from iTunes.  I'd assume
that would include playlists.


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-08-25 Thread garym

Philip Meyer;572006 Wrote: 
 Doesn't the SBS iTunes plugin support playlists?  I don't use the
 iTunesSBS import features, but I thought that when this was enabled,
 you just rescan in SBS, and it imports items from iTunes.  I'd assume
 that would include playlists.

And I recall that one can save a genius playlist as a regular playlist
from within itunes.


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-08-25 Thread netchord

Philip Meyer;572005 Wrote: 
 This is exactly what MusicIP does; it's much better than Genius:
 
 1. Supports more file formats, not just mp3 and Apple formats.
 2. It analyses the content of the music to find similarities, not
 dependent on properly tagged music metadata.
 3. You have some control over how it makes mixes (eg. how similar music
 is selected, whether to have smooth transitions between songs, etc).
 4. You can choose what music to include/exclude from mixes.
 
 It's not particularly hard to install in a basic setup.  i.e. just
 install the product, point it at your music library and let it scan. 
 Then rescan SBS and it should work, as long as MusicIP client GUI is
 running.
 
 There is more sophisticated installations (i.e. to run MusicIP as a
 service that doesn't require the GUI client to be open), but take one
 step at a time.

Genius does waveform analysis, as well as text analysis.  it used to be
tuned to content apple had available in the ITS, but it's broader
now.

in itunes, you just click the button that says save playlist when
you're viewing a genius generated PL.  SC will recognize it, just takes
a bit for the refresh.

not as cool as one-touch, but it works.

easy enough to build both the WF analysis and PL gen algorithm into SC,
logitech would have to decide its worthwhile to license the technology.


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-08-24 Thread papa doc

All of which is fine, but say for sake of argument I don't want to
install Music ip etc etc but I want to play my iTunes Genius mixes
through my Squeezebox - is no one working on a plug in then..?

If not, how do I save my mixes as playlists and add to SBS..?

Ta


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-08-24 Thread pski

papa doc;571873 Wrote: 
 All of which is fine, but say for sake of argument I don't want to
 install Music ip etc etc but I want to play my iTunes Genius mixes
 through my Squeezebox - is no one working on a plug in then..?
 
 If not, how do I save my mixes as playlists and add to SBS..?
 
 Ta

Maybe you should be addressing an Apple forum?

I wouldn't hold my breath but I think the question of open is
definitely in Apple's court...

You could make a plug-in yourself but I think you would be subject to a
lawsuit from Apple. 

A new home for your comments might be in order.

P


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-08-24 Thread bobkoure

Can you even produce M3U playlists with iTunes? And, if you can, can you
then use that playlist with some other non-iTunes software on that same
PC to play those tunes, or are the tunes somehow locked up?

Sorry, I have no experience with iTunes, so I can't help you with any
of that.

However, if you can get a working m3u, you can just copy it into your
sbs playlists folder.

That said, MusicIP got a lot easier to install after those of us who
complained went through the process. It's also easier if you're running
SBS on a windows box.


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-02-19 Thread bobkoure

You've exactly described MusicIP.
Maybe find someone to set it up for you?
Also - based on comments, setup's gotten easier (since 7.2 or so?). So,
even though it used to be a really hard - nerds only kind of thing, it
may now be loads better.


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-02-18 Thread johnas

Music IP would be the way to go for sure. If you can't get it to work
you can save your genius mixes as playlists and put them in your SBS
playlist folder.


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-02-18 Thread Chunkywizard

Or you can use the CustomScan/ Dynamic Playlist/ SQL Playlist/ Trackstat
plugin route. I found this easier to set up than MIP but it still isn't
trivial.

HTH

CW


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-02-18 Thread Jac

Thanks guys.  Music IP seems complicated. I am not techie enough for
this.As for saving my Genius in itunes and than  later (depending on
my refresh setting) having it appear in my squeezebox, this is a step in
the right direction, but it is not on the fly 

But what I ultimately want to do from my duet remote: when I listen to
a song, invoke the Genius functionality and within seconds have a
playlist created in squeezebox and available for play.  This feature is
simply magic when you have a large music base that is properly tagged.

I love my duet, but I am now using my itouch with itunes just to get
this functionality that I want badly in duet


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[slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-02-17 Thread Jac

I have been using Itunes quit a lot in the last month and I must admit I
love the Genius function.  It is simple and it does what I want when I
just want to listen to certain type of music .  Now how can I have this
feature available with my home Squeezebox setup?  has anyone ever
thought of developing a plugin that would allow this?


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Re: [slim] Itunes Genius how can I have it in my sueezebox

2010-02-17 Thread bhaagensen

Its possible. Search the forums for 'musicip'. Its not trivial to set up
- but not impossible either. Again, search forum.


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