[slim] Just getting started...

2005-04-19 Thread bjmacdow

Dear all,

My Squeezebox2 is scheduled to arrive on Friday.  I purchased a
200gb drive w/8mb cache for $94.00 and have been ripping music through
WMP at a 192kbs rate.  My question is whether this rate is enough
quality?  My home audio gear is fairly decent, running an Onkyo DTS
receiver, and decent speakers and my thinking going into this process
is that I would not be able to hear much of a difference between 192
and a higher standard.  
This idea may be considered blasphemy to any audiophiles out
there, but it seems to make sense to me in terms of conservative
storage space ustage.  Currently I have around 800+ CDs to get in
there, I have ripped around 350 of them and there is a ton of room left
on the drive so that I will be able to continue to add music to it all
the time once my current discs are all loaded.  Any thoughts that any
of you have are appreciated.  
Also...once it is set up and I have the music streaming, what
are some modifications that all of you have made, what do you consider
the most important additions, and what would you do first with your new
system?  It will be a rough couple of days waiting for friday, thank you
for any of your thoughts.

Ben


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Re: [slim] Just getting started...

2005-04-19 Thread Steven Moore
Why not rip an album at 192 and the same album at a higher rate and 
judge the difference for yourself on the SB on Friday.
Everyone's hearing is different and 192 may or may not be good enough 
for you.

Steven Moore
On 19 Apr 2005, at 2:57 pm, bjmacdow wrote:
Dear all,
My Squeezebox2 is scheduled to arrive on Friday.  I purchased a
200gb drive w/8mb cache for $94.00 and have been ripping music through
WMP at a 192kbs rate.  My question is whether this rate is enough
quality?  My home audio gear is fairly decent, running an Onkyo DTS
receiver, and decent speakers and my thinking going into this process
is that I would not be able to hear much of a difference between 192
and a higher standard.
This idea may be considered blasphemy to any audiophiles out
there, but it seems to make sense to me in terms of conservative
storage space ustage.  Currently I have around 800+ CDs to get in
there, I have ripped around 350 of them and there is a ton of room left
on the drive so that I will be able to continue to add music to it all
the time once my current discs are all loaded.  Any thoughts that any
of you have are appreciated.
Also...once it is set up and I have the music streaming, what
are some modifications that all of you have made, what do you consider
the most important additions, and what would you do first with your new
system?  It will be a rough couple of days waiting for friday, thank 
you
for any of your thoughts.

Ben
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Re: [slim] Just getting started...

2005-04-19 Thread Pat Farrell
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 06:57 -0700, bjmacdow wrote:
 WMP at a 192kbs rate.  My question is whether this rate is enough
 quality?  My home audio gear is fairly decent, running an Onkyo DTS
 receiver, and decent speakers and my thinking going into this process
 is that I would not be able to hear much of a difference between 192
 and a higher standard.  

This is really a personal question. Can you hear enough difference to
care?

It is easy to do a quick test, rip a good sounding CD both ways, and
listen to them both. If you can't tell a difference, be happy.

I believe that I can hear a difference, and using FLAC, the
files are only two or three times larger than high rate MP3.
And disk drives are essentially free. So for me, FLAC is it.

There is one non-subjective reason to consider flac.
Since it is allows you to recreate bit exact audio,
you can change your mind later and transcode
the audio into any format without any loss other than
that caused by the target audio.

So if sometime down stream, you want all your files in WMA
or OggVorbis, you can take the FLAC, convert back to the
original wav files, and then convert to what you want and
know you have done no harm.

Once you use a lossy compression like MP3, it is lost forever
and you'd have to manually re-rip all your CDs.


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Re: [slim] Just getting started...

2005-04-19 Thread Daryle A. Tilroe
bjmacdow wrote:
Dear all,
My Squeezebox2 is scheduled to arrive on Friday.  I purchased a
200gb drive w/8mb cache for $94.00 and have been ripping music through
So just look at $94 and consider what your time is worth.  For
another $94 you could rip all your CDs to FLAC and never have
to do it again.
WMP at a 192kbs rate.  My question is whether this rate is enough
quality?  
Lossy if false economy; particularly if you are already concerned
enough about quality to ask.  I just don't understand MP3/OGG for
anything other than a portable player.
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Re: [slim] Just getting started...

2005-04-19 Thread Robert Wallace
Amen, brothers.
I have all my CDs as FLAC.  When I need a bunch of tunes for my 
portable, I drag them into foobar2000 (a player) and hit a button on a 
pulldown menu.  A suprisingly short time later, I have all the tunes I 
wanted in a portable player format.  Doing that without having to find 
and re-rip the CDs is wonderful.

Robert
Pat Farrell wrote:
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 06:57 -0700, bjmacdow wrote:
 

WMP at a 192kbs rate.  My question is whether this rate is enough
quality?  My home audio gear is fairly decent, running an Onkyo DTS
receiver, and decent speakers and my thinking going into this process
is that I would not be able to hear much of a difference between 192
and a higher standard.  
   

This is really a personal question. Can you hear enough difference to
care?
It is easy to do a quick test, rip a good sounding CD both ways, and
listen to them both. If you can't tell a difference, be happy.
I believe that I can hear a difference, and using FLAC, the
files are only two or three times larger than high rate MP3.
And disk drives are essentially free. So for me, FLAC is it.
There is one non-subjective reason to consider flac.
Since it is allows you to recreate bit exact audio,
you can change your mind later and transcode
the audio into any format without any loss other than
that caused by the target audio.
So if sometime down stream, you want all your files in WMA
or OggVorbis, you can take the FLAC, convert back to the
original wav files, and then convert to what you want and
know you have done no harm.
Once you use a lossy compression like MP3, it is lost forever
and you'd have to manually re-rip all your CDs.
 

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