Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-08-04 Thread umapati

At last got my SQ touch today..Started it playing Internet radio..Its
amazing..Superb products..I have still not connected it to Sq sever on
my PC..I think I will wait for few days to get stable server
version..But I am unable to save my favorite stations independently..Do
I need SQ server OR Mysqueezebox.com to be connected to save favorite
stations ??


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-08-01 Thread toby10

umapati;645705 Wrote: 
 Y.
 But do I need to connect to Squeezebox.com for playing internet radio
 while my PC is off..?

Yes.  Your player must connect to a server, either SBS on your computer
or TinySBS on your Touch or www.MySqueezeBox.com (MySB) online.

If you plan on frequent switches between servers (sounds like you will)
I'd suggest moving the switch to MySB to your home menu.
From the Touch go to Settings  Home Menu  Restore Hidden Menu Items 
switch to MySB.

So to switch from SBS to MySB, simply select that menu item.
To switch from MySB to SBS, simply select My Music or Switch Library
(might also need to be un-hidden).


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-08-01 Thread MrSinatra

i would also suggest you document your problems in full and file bugs,
and try to bring them to Michael's and Andy's attention b/c i am fairly
sure they don't want these things to happen to others, and would
therefore like to fix it for you.


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-08-01 Thread umapati

MrSinatra;645853 Wrote: 
 i would also suggest you document your problems in full and file bugs,
 and try to bring them to Michael's and Andy's attention b/c i am fairly
 sure they don't want these things to happen to others, and would
 therefore like to fix it for you.


Thanx a lot...But do you think I should switch back to older version OR
upgrade to nightly version before starting or connecting my SB touch..?
Bcoz I am still at the starting point..


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-08-01 Thread toby10

umapati;645890 Wrote: 
 Thanx a lot...But do you think I should switch back to older version OR
 upgrade to nightly version before starting or connecting my SB touch..?
 Bcoz I am still at the starting point..

I'd suggest you stick with your installed SBS 7.6, see if it works ok
for you.  If not (scanner or art issues) maybe try the SBS 7.6.1
If you go with an earlier 7.5 build, and you do your switching to MySB
when computer is off, then MySB will want you to update to 7.6.  When
you go back to SBS server then SBS will want you to downgrade to 7.5. 
You will be in a firmware update loop.  :)
Or, run 7.5 but then just don't switch to MySB.com.


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-08-01 Thread MrSinatra

umapati;645890 Wrote: 
 Thanx a lot...But do you think I should switch back to older version OR
 upgrade to nightly version before starting or connecting my SB touch..?
 Bcoz I am still at the starting point..

i usually run the betas, so 7.6.1b is what i'd suggest for you.

however, i should state that i have not yet gone to 7.6, as my fear is
it isn't ready yet.

do u know where the bugs are filed?  once done, paste the bug link to a
post in the beta section of the forums.


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-08-01 Thread TiredLegs

castalla;644598 Wrote: 
 Probably the Worst Update in The World ... 
 
Squeezecenter 7.6 might be problematic, but at least it didn't 'cause a
spacecraft to bite the dust'
(http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/HotTopics/index.php?/archives/234-Mars-Global-Surveyor-Lost,-Possibly-Due-to-Software-Glitch.html).


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-08-01 Thread andyman99

Lol puts things into perspective I guess!


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-31 Thread umapati

I have just installed 7.6  on my macbook pro before going deep into this
topic..Now I am very much worried as my squeezebox touch is about to
arrive tomorrow evening.Do I need to uninstall it from my Macbook ? if
yes, how ? I have not configure anything right now..


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-31 Thread castalla

If you installed 7.6.1 (from the nightly builds) then you probably won't
have any major issues - this version has some bug fixes.

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/

It depends on what features you are after - if you're going to use
mysqueezebox.com then you need 7.6.1  (otherwise the Touch will give
endless prompts for updates).


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-31 Thread umapati

castalla;645631 Wrote: 
 If you installed 7.6.1 (from the nightly builds) then you probably won't
 have any major issues - this version has some bug fixes.
 
 http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/
 
 It depends on what features you are after - if you're going to use
 mysqueezebox.com then you need 7.6.1  (otherwise the Touch will give
 endless prompts for updates).
I am a beginner and wish to use SB touch to play my local music
collection and internet radio..Foe what purpose should anyone use
mysqueezebox.com ?


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-31 Thread castalla

If PC is down then you can switch to mysb.com to get internet radio.


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-31 Thread umapati

Ya..I will be using SB touch mainly to play internet radio only..


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-31 Thread castalla

I think you said elsewhere you wanted to use an usb drive - that has to
be run using the Touch tiny sbs server (on the Touch).  So, you are
going to be switching between the Touch server and your PC server.  

Im not sure but if you go that route then you'll be connecting to
mysb.com for internet radio.

The easiest way is to run the server on your PC and connect the usb
drive to that - this means you need the PC on whenever you use the
Touch.


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-31 Thread umapati

Ya..tats what i have think of..i will connect my hard drive to my
desktop PC on which I have still not installed any Squeezebox
server..(for which I need advice from my all of expert friends here) 
will play internet radio while pc is off..and will play music from USB
hard drive with pc ON and wish to play music from my Macbook pro also..


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-29 Thread castalla

Thanks very much for your detailed replies.  

What if I uninstall then delete any residual traces of sbs (folders,
etc)?  Are there any hidden registry entries?


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-29 Thread gharris999

castalla;644644 Wrote: 
 Thanks very much for your detailed replies.  
 
 What if I uninstall then delete any residual traces of sbs (folders,
 etc)?  Are there any hidden registry entries?
If you're on debian/ubuntu, no, there's no registry in linux. 
Everything is a file there.

The places to check (and delete, if aubuti's advice to apt-get purge
leaves something behind) are:


Code:


  /etc/default/squeezeboxserver
  /etc/init.d/squeezeboxserver
  /etc/squeezeboxserver
  /usr/share/perl5/Slim
  /usr/share/squeezeboxserver
  /var/lib/squeezeboxserver
  /var/log/squeezeboxserver
  


Have I forgotten anything?


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[slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-28 Thread castalla

... with apologies to the famous Carlsberg adverts!

In over 20 years of IT, this 7.6 mess has to be way up at the top of
the Top Ten utter and total disasters!  and absolutely no clues on how
to recover from the fiasco!

I have tried everything to re-establish 7.5.5 as it was (reinstalls,
factory resets, cold reboots, etc) and still the stupid system refuses
to accept my settings for the Info Browser.  Oh yes, it's there on the
web interface - but will the damn thing show up on the Touch, will it
hell!

So can any guru (with years of experience!) please tell vme how to get
back to the day I unpacked the Touch and set it up?  

Simply uninstalling the sbs server is obviously a waste of time - the
damn thing still wants to update to 7.6 even though the server is 7.5.5
.

It's 4:15 am and I've spent hours uninstalling, reinstalling,
resetting, and screaming at the damn thing.  Help  Please??


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-28 Thread aubuti

castalla;644598 Wrote: 
 Simply uninstalling the sbs server is obviously a waste of time - the
 damn thing still wants to update to 7.6 even though the server is 7.5.5
 .
It only knows that 7.6 exists because there is something telling it
that it exists. You never got messages before updating to 7.6 before
the release, right? So,

1) delete everything having to do with 7.5.x and 7.6 from your system.
Assuming you're still using Ubuntu, doing only apt-get purge
squeezeboxserver may not be enough. After apt-get purging, then dig
into the /var/lib/squeezeboxserver , /etc/squeezeboxserver, etc to
thoroughly clean it out.

2) when you re-install SBS, turn off the automatic notification of
software update before you do anything else

3) never, ever, ever connect to mysqueezebox.com.

That should give you a fighting chance.


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Re: [slim] Probably the Worst Update in The World ...

2011-07-28 Thread erland

castalla;644598 Wrote: 
 
 It's 4:15 am and I've spent hours uninstalling, reinstalling,
 resetting, and screaming at the damn thing.  Help  Please??
 
I completely understand your frustration, at 4.15 am I'd strongly
recommend you to go to sleep and continue tomorrow unless you life
depends on it.

If you want step by step guidance, contact the official Logitech
support team and ask them to guide you through the process of
downgrading to 7.5.5. You will find the Support link at the top of
this forum. Note, I'm not talking about the support forum, I'm talking
about registering a support case.

As aubuti says, the general process of downgrading is to:
1. Uninstall everything and make sure there aren't anything left
2. Re-install 7.5.x
3. Don't connect to mysqueezebox.com as that will prompt you to upgrade
to 7.6 again.

I think the re-installation after a factory reset is going to be a
little bit confusing because:
- When setting up the Touch the first time, it's going to connect to
mysqueezebox.com and ask you to upgrade to 7.6 unless it's already
using 7.6, just let it continue to do the upgrade.
- Later in the process, when you have setup your local SBS 7.5.x and
connect the Touch to it, you will be able to downgrade the Touch
firmware to 7.5.5 and you have reach your goal.

If you need more details regarding the uninstallation, the Logitech
support staff will be able to guide you through it if you register a
support case.

And just to be clear, if anyone else is reading this, for anyone using
the Touch without a local SBS on a computer I'm not even sure it will
work reliably to downgrade to 7.5.x. I suspect it will connect to
mysqueezebox.com and try to upgrade every time the Touch is started or
the USB drive is disconnected/unavailable.


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