Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-10 Thread Peter
Jeff Flowerday wrote:
 You really need to quit spewing this crap!
   

I think I've had enough of this. ;)

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[slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread rydenfan

I often spend time on the web while I am ripping discs. Is this ok? Or
is there a change I could corrupt the rip in some way? Thanks for the
help.


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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Shredder

I always do both at the same time (right now, for example) and have
never had a problem.


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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread seanadams

Totally OK. 

In the early days of CD _burning_, you had to be careful because the
drives had very small buffers. Any activity on the PC could cause it to
run empty and the write would fail completely, because a disc could only
be burned in a single continuous operation.

Ripping is a completely different story. That is a random access,
reading process where interruptions have no effect.


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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread rydenfan

Thanks so much guys! Always better safe than sorry...


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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread b33k34

You would have thought so but my original collection rip (using a mix of
iTunes, Windows MP, and EAC/Lame contained a lot of files with errors
(ie that wouldn't play properly either on my iPod or by SlimServer).  I
always put that down to doing other tasks at the same time.

This time i've ripped everything via iTunes on Mac and been a bit more
careful about doing other stuff and haven't had any problems yet. 
Could have been many things last time - they were less powerful pcs, on
my old Athlon system i had two drives hooked up to it and sometimes used
both at once, and was ripping super high quality variable - could have
been any one of those factors.


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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Jeff Flowerday

Just make sure that error checking is on with whaterver software you use
and you should be fine.

I didn't know about error checking in WMP before I started ripping my
2000+ CD collection.  Fortunately I found the error of my ways 300 in. 
Without error checking in WMP I'd get the odd blast of static when the
drive encountered a problem with a disk.  They were pretty infrequent
so infrequent that I didn't hear one for quite a few days of spot
checking via my Zune.

With error checking on it went away completely.  Discs in real bad
shape still might cause skipping or drop outs but there isn't much you
can do besides buy a new copy.


Jeff


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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Peter
Jeff Flowerday wrote:
 Just make sure that error checking is on with whaterver software you use
 and you should be fine.

 I didn't know about error checking in WMP before I started ripping my
 2000+ CD collection.  Fortunately I found the error of my ways 300 in. 
 Without error checking in WMP I'd get the odd blast of static when the
 drive encountered a problem with a disk.  They were pretty infrequent
 so infrequent that I didn't hear one for quite a few days of spot
 checking via my Zune.

 With error checking on it went away completely.  Discs in real bad
 shape still might cause skipping or drop outs but there isn't much you
 can do besides buy a new copy.
   

Don't use crap like WMP, use EAC and FLAC to rip your CD's.
People regularly post here complaining that they inadvertently ripped 
their collection in WMA + DRM and now it won't play on their SB's.

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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Jeff Flowerday

Peter;277490 Wrote: 
 Jeff Flowerday wrote:
  Just make sure that error checking is on with whaterver software you
 use
  and you should be fine.
 
  I didn't know about error checking in WMP before I started ripping
 my
  2000+ CD collection.  Fortunately I found the error of my ways 300
 in. 
  Without error checking in WMP I'd get the odd blast of static when
 the
  drive encountered a problem with a disk.  They were pretty
 infrequent
  so infrequent that I didn't hear one for quite a few days of spot
  checking via my Zune.
 
  With error checking on it went away completely.  Discs in real bad
  shape still might cause skipping or drop outs but there isn't much
 you
  can do besides buy a new copy.

 
 Don't use crap like WMP, use EAC and FLAC to rip your CD's.
 People regularly post here complaining that they inadvertently ripped 
 their collection in WMA + DRM and now it won't play on their SB's.
 
 Regards,
 Peter

I don't remember asking your opinion.  FLAC doesn't work on my Zune,
doesn't work worth a crap in MCE.  Why should I use it again?  Oh yah,
because Peter said so.  Rollseyes


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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread adamslim

Jeff Flowerday;277520 Wrote: 
 I don't remember asking your opinion.  FLAC doesn't work on my Zune,
 doesn't work worth a crap in MCE.  Why should I use it again?  Oh yah,
 because Peter said so.  Rollseyes
 
 DRM isn't on by default in WMP so why these people turn it on is
 besides me.  I tried EAC but it was too much work to get the rip done
 with album art.  I have 3000 CDs to do and don't have the time.

For the benefit of others who might read this, EAC plus FLAC is an
excellent way to get prefect rips that you know you don't have to do
again.  WMP is less reliable a ripper, but is fine for 95% of discs. 
EAC is good at dealing with scratches, and reports when it has an
accurate rip - although it is slower.

Oh and check out Album Art Aggregator = a great little piece of
software.  WMP and iTunes are fine for most album art, but if you
collection is more eclectic, AAA is very quick.


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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Peter
Jeff Flowerday wrote:
 I don't remember asking your opinion.  FLAC doesn't work on my Zune,
 doesn't work worth a crap in MCE.  Why should I use it again?  Oh yah,
 because Peter said so.  Rollseyes
   

Not just me, you'll notice that most people here'll recommend FLAC 
instead of lossy or proprietary stuff. You can convert FLAC files into 
anything without loss.

Regards,
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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Jeff Flowerday

Absolutely EAC is the best solution if you have the time and want the
best guaranteed rip.

I don't like when people feel they should ram their solutions down
everyone's throats.

FLAC is a great lossless format but in some environments it isn't the
best choice.


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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Ross Malegus
Do you have a link to recommended FLAC software?

Thanks
Ross

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Jeff Flowerday wrote:
 I don't remember asking your opinion.  FLAC doesn't work on my Zune,
 doesn't work worth a crap in MCE.  Why should I use it again?  Oh yah,
 because Peter said so.  Rollseyes


Not just me, you'll notice that most people here'll recommend FLAC
instead of lossy or proprietary stuff. You can convert FLAC files into
anything without loss.

Regards,
Peter

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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Peter
Ross Malegus wrote:
 Do you have a link to recommended FLAC software?
   

This is all you need:

http://flac.sourceforge.net/
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/

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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Jeff Flowerday

Peter;277545 Wrote: 
 Jeff Flowerday wrote:
  I don't remember asking your opinion.  FLAC doesn't work on my Zune,
  doesn't work worth a crap in MCE.  Why should I use it again?  Oh
 yah,
  because Peter said so.  Rollseyes

 
 Not just me, you'll notice that most people here'll recommend FLAC 
 instead of lossy or proprietary stuff. You can convert FLAC files into
 
 anything without loss.
 
 Regards,
 Peter

Most people will recommend it, myself included when using the Squeeze
box only, but most people don't jump on threads crapping on other
technologies preaching FLAC as the end all solution of solutions.


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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Peter
Jeff Flowerday wrote:
 Most people will recommend it, myself included when using the Squeeze
 box only, but most people don't jump on threads crapping on other
 technologies preaching FLAC as the end all solution of solutions.
   

If I turn on my SqueezeBox Controller it says Free Your Music..
I'll bet that's not what your Zune says... ;)

Keep away from the big boys if you want to own your own music.

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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Jeff Flowerday

Peter;277576 Wrote: 
 Jeff Flowerday wrote:
  Most people will recommend it, myself included when using the
 Squeeze
  box only, but most people don't jump on threads crapping on other
  technologies preaching FLAC as the end all solution of solutions.

 
 If I turn on my SqueezeBox Controller it says Free Your Music..
 I'll bet that's not what your Zune says... ;)
 
 Keep away from the big boys if you want to own your own music.
 
 Regards,
 Peter

I own my music on CDs.  I chose a format for digital archive, the best
solution for me was WMA Lossless with DRM turned off.  I considered
FLAC but it wouldn't work fully and completely through my environment.

I missed the press release where I don't own my music?

You really need to quit spewing this crap!

To the original poster, I apoligize for the direction this thread has
gone.


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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Pat Farrell
Jeff Flowerday wrote:
 I missed the press release where I don't own my music?

I'm not in this thread or flamewar, but you only own music you write and 
perform. When you buy a CD, you don't own the music. This is what DRM 
and the DMCA is all about.

Free your music

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Re: [slim] is it ok to use the web while ripping discs?

2008-03-09 Thread Jeff Flowerday

Pat Farrell;277606 Wrote: 
 Jeff Flowerday wrote:
  I missed the press release where I don't own my music?
 
 I'm not in this thread or flamewar, but you only own music you write
 and 
 perform. When you buy a CD, you don't own the music. This is what DRM 
 and the DMCA is all about.
 
 Free your music

I think most realize what the term own represents in the case of
purchased copyright material.

What's your Free your music point?


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