Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Well then if someone in the community created plugins like Tiode's Spotify plugin for MOG,Tunein Radio , etc . That's a very big *if* for a discontinued product line. ;) toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
toby10 wrote: That's a very big *if* for a discontinued product line. ;) Another reason to ultimately move on to a new system . jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Another reason to ultimately move on to a new system . Indeed. Now to find this elusive system that has the SB features, functions, form factor, audio quality and reasonable price point. *If* one comes along in the next few years, and/or when MySB stops functioning, I'll be all ears. ;) toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Another reason to ultimately move on to a new system . Only if a better one comes along. Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
Julf wrote: Only if a better one comes along. There isn't one at the moment ,I agree. I really think I will eventually go to a direct USB macmini computer connection to a high quality asynchronous USB DAC controlled by VNC from the phone . jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: There isn't one at the moment ,I agree. I really think I will eventually go to a direct USB macmini computer connection to a high quality asynchronous USB DAC controlled by VNC from the phone . I can get everything I want to listen to using this setup. That is essentially what I used before squeezeboxes (except S/PDIF coax connection between computer and DAC). Didn't give me ability to synch with players in other rooms and kept the noise of the PC in the main listening room. I was controlling foobar2000 with a hack to the iphone REMPOTE app. But there there was no common interface to allow me to switch between playing my own music, or pandora or siriusXM, etc. I could do all this by switching sources on the computer itself but not from the remote. But for playing one's own music in one location only, there are lots of choices as any very quiet computer and DAC will work. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
garym wrote: That is essentially what I used before squeezeboxes (except S/PDIF coax connection between computer and DAC). Didn't give me ability to synch with players in other rooms and kept the noise of the PC in the main listening room. I was controlling foobar2000 with a hack to the iphone REMPOTE app. But there there was no common interface to allow me to switch between playing my own music, or pandora or siriusXM, etc. I could do all this by switching sources on the computer itself but not from the remote. But for playing one's own music in one location only, there are lots of choices as any very quiet computer and DAC will work. My system with speakers throughout the house and outside is all on one rack The house was pre - wired with speaker cables per my instructions so I have music synched and playing in any room I wish . The macmini will be in a enclosed entertainment center so no fan noise . Using VNC , however is nothing like the ease and usability of ipeng so I will sorely miss that and will certainly be the weakest part of the setup . jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: My system with speakers throughout the house and outside is all on one rack The house was pre - wired with speaker cables per my instructions so I have music synched and playing in any room I wish . The macmini will be in a enclosed entertainment center so no fan noise . Using VNC , however is nothing like the ease and usability of ipeng so I will sorely miss that and will certainly be the weakest part of the setup . that helps for playing the same thing in different rooms. But what about when you want to play something different in the rooms? garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
garym wrote: that helps for playing the same thing in different rooms. But what about when you want to play something different in the rooms? I have multiple amps for that jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: I have multiple amps for that. All in the same rack then you're all set i'd think. I have something similar. I have my main amp and next to it a small preamp/amp. The Transporter drives the main preamp/amp/speakers. A Touch drives the small amp. and this amp feeds NILES speaker selector box that feeds ceiling speakers in bathroom, kitchen, etc. Mostly used for interenet radio or siriusXM news, etc. in the morning and early evening. I could survive too, but I might need two computer sources (as I'm not sure how I'd use the computer to play music to my main system and at the same time play something different (internet radio) to the small system. Might need something like a SONOS player for just internet radio, siriusXM to feed the small system for my wife. And I can use an old iphone for the remote for that system. I could continue using transporter and LMS for my main system for my own music. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
garym wrote: then you're all set i'd think. I have something similar. I have my main amp and next to it a small preamp/amp. The Transporter drives the main preamp/amp/speakers. A Touch drives the small amp. and this amp feeds NILES speaker selector box that feeds ceiling speakers in bathroom, kitchen, etc. Mostly used for interenet radio or siriusXM news, etc. in the morning and early evening. I could survive too, but I might need two computer sources (as I'm not sure how I'd use the computer to play music to my main system and at the same time play something different (internet radio) to the small system. Might need something like a SONOS player for just internet radio, siriusXM to feed the small system for my wife. And I can use an old iphone for the remote for that system. I could continue using transporter and LMS for my main system for my own music. This would allow me to not have a computer in the rack. Instead, I can still feed things to main system from the vortexbox server in the back room and the Sonos player would get its stuff simply via the internet (no local music). Man I wish we didn't have to ultimately go through this but I listen to my library 50 percent , music services 50 percent (MOG) . My wife is at about 90 percent music services and Internet radio . jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Man I wish we didn't have to ultimately go through this but I listen to my library 50 percent , music services 50 percent (MOG) . My wife is at about 90 percent music services and Internet radio . Agree, as right now everything I do works perfectly with one integrated system. I'm about 60-70% my own music and the rest internet radio or MOG. My wife is 99.9% internet radio (news/talk NPR stuff) or services (siriusXM news/npr stations) garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: I have multiple amps for that. All in the same rack What about multiple sources for those amps? aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
aubuti wrote: What about multiple sources for those amps? Good point .i have bought a used Mac mini on eBay 1gb snow leopard server cheap(350) but your right I just can't use that for let's say three different amps to play three different songs in different parts of the house but I do that rarely . Maybe I buy another cheap used Mac mini or two to use as a server and use vnc to control them all when the time comes that mysqueezebox ends . They are super small . I would love to keep my system with Touches,Dacs and a Transporter in place. I would pay for plugins to keep my current system as it is but that's probably wishful thinking . jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: I would love to keep my system with Touches,Dacs and a Transporter in place. I would pay for plugins to keep my current system as it is but that's probably wishful thinking . I think we're probably good with current stuff for about two years before we have to start worrying about replacements. And if mysb.com goes longer, then we're good for even longer. And at my age, anything longer than two years is the LONG TERM. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
erland wrote: I'm skeptical but there was a thread a month or two back when someone wanted to try to acquire the rights to do it, I haven't heard anything more about it after that. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96660-The-Future-of-Squeezebox-Product-Line-Up I personally think it's more likely we will see Squeezebox compatible solutions through iOS/Android apps and geek hardware like Raspberry Pi/SheevaPlug and Vortexbox Appliance based solution. Most of it is open source but parts of it is not redistributable without permission from Logitech, so some parts would either require a permission from Logitech or be rewritten. Unless you wanted to churn out a nearly exact clone of the hardware, what would you license? When you see how many hardware companies out there today have networked audio players, you realize that the hardware is nothing special (maybe 8 or 10 years ago it was unique). I would think anyone producing a Squeezebox compatible player would want to start over from scratch and then write the necessary firmware. Using general purpose hardware can only produce a partial substitute, as things like a display and a device interface, quality analog and S/PDIF audio output, infrared remote control, are all either DIY addons or simply unavailable in those approaches. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
aubuti wrote: In a word, no. Try disconnecting your router from the internet and then playing your library. Works fine. A couple windstorms in 2012 that knocked out my ISP have confirmed that for me. Well then if someone in the community created plugins like Tiode's Spotify plugin for MOG,Tunein Radio , etc . the squeezebox product line would lose no functionality whatsoever when mysqueezebox is shuttered and knowing the community folks here would work alot better . jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Well then if someone in the community created plugins like Tiode's Spotify plugin for MOG,Tunein Radio , etc . the squeezebox product line would lose no functionality whatsoever when mysqueezebox is shuttered and knowing the community folks here would work alot better . I don't think it is a technical issue, but rather a business arrangement / licensing issue with MOG etc, to allow the server access to the API. Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
Julf wrote: I don't think it is a technical issue, but rather a business arrangement / licensing issue with MOG etc, to allow the server access to the API. exactly. and same issue with siriusXM, pandora, etc. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
seajazz wrote: . It might be possible to produce the hardware by another company. / Or let is be produced. The reasons why Logitech likely can't/won't do this are numerous. The most glaring of these issues is that any such third party hardware would only further hamper sales of their own UE branded players. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
and right now you can buy all the Squeezebox players one might want. Plenty of resellers selling new in box units or pick up a used unit (lots of folks buy these, never get it working right, assume it is junk then resell). garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym wrote: and right now you can buy all the Squeezebox players one might want. Plenty of resellers selling new in box units or pick up a used unit (lots of folks buy these, never get it working right, assume it is junk then resell). I know this has been asked in another thread but can your music library be played should mysqueezebox be shut down which it eventually will? I realize the music services will not work when this happens . Isn't there some link between LMS and Mysqueezebox which would make playing even your music library impossible ? jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: I know this has been asked in another thread but can your music library be played should mysqueezebox be shut down which it eventually will? I realize the music services will not work when this happens . Isn't there some link between LMS and Mysqueezebox which would make playing even your music library impossible ? As long as you have a local server you can play you local music library with LMS without MySqueezebox.com. It used to work before MySqueezebox.com was created and will continue - the exception being menus such as the My Apps menu which are created via MySqueezebox.com. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: I know this has been asked in another thread but can your music library be played should mysqueezebox be shut down which it eventually will? I realize the music services will not work when this happens . Isn't there some link between LMS and Mysqueezebox which would make playing even your music library impossible ? If you install LMS on a local PC or NAS, you can play your own music, listen to internet radio, etc. even without mysb.com. You can't access most services (as they require mysb.com at least in the background). So you'd lose Pandora, SirriusXM, MOG, etc. Although it turns out that the triode Spotify app would work on your local LMS without mysb.com. But yes, bottom line you can always play your own music. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: Isn't there some link between LMS and Mysqueezebox which would make playing even your music library impossible ? In a word, no. Try disconnecting your router from the internet and then playing your library. Works fine. A couple windstorms in 2012 that knocked out my ISP have confirmed that for me. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
Hi all, I 'm a little late in finding logitech is ending the squeezebox product line. Does anyone have any idea if it is possible to ask logitech for the technical details about de productline. It might be possible to produce the hardware by another company. / Or let is be produced. Are there among us people who might be motivated to approuch logitech together and try to accomplish that for now the hardware is produced. As far as I know the software is open source and might be continued as a an open source project. seajazz seajazz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] producing the squeezebox hardware by another company
seajazz wrote: Does anyone have any idea if it is possible to ask logitech for the technical details about de productline. It might be possible to produce the hardware by another company. / Or let is be produced. Are there among us people who might be motivated to approuch logitech together and try to accomplish that for now the hardware is produced. I'm skeptical but there was a thread a month or two back when someone wanted to try to acquire the rights to do it, I haven't heard anything more about it after that. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96660-The-Future-of-Squeezebox-Product-Line-Up I personally think it's more likely we will see Squeezebox compatible solutions through iOS/Android apps and geek hardware like Raspberry Pi/SheevaPlug and Vortexbox Appliance based solution. seajazz wrote: As far as I know the software is open source and might be continued as a an open source project. Most of it is open source but parts of it is not redistributable without permission from Logitech, so some parts would either require a permission from Logitech or be rewritten. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97679 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
