Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
I had considered switching from Napster to Spotify but having now browsed the Spotify database using my free account I was saddened to see that several tracks I would listen to are only available for purchase and not streaming. On Napster all of these are available. -- sneeks sneeks's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34546 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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sneeks;602883 Wrote: I had considered switching from Napster to Spotify but having now browsed the Spotify database using my free account I was saddened to see that several tracks I would listen to are only available for purchase and not streaming. On Napster all of these are available. That's a good point. I wonder how the libraries compare. I know it's not always about the number of tracks they have on offer (15 different DJ remixes of Lady Gaga don't count as 15 tracks IMO ;-) -- simbo *lounge:* receiver; *dining room:* boom; *garden:* classic; *bedroom:* boom; *anywhere:* controller 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/buggle52) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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andyg;601310 Wrote: Hi guys, our official version is limited to Touch and Radio.What about Squeezeplay? -- onocentaur onocentaur's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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toby10;601985 Wrote: Completely agree. ;) *If* they find the players in the store at all (usually involves looking it up on their inventory computer) they will be in a different category / location in every store. Sometimes they are with computers, sometimes with the iPod docks, sometimes in home theatre, sometimes with boom boxes I know what you mean, it is the same here. Having said that you can usually find the Radio. Because of its name it can usually be found among, wait for it, the section with all the radios in it. If you are lucky you can find the Boom there as well. However I have yet to find a Currys, Comet or PC World (Best Buy's UK equivalents) that stock's either the Touch or Duet (even though you can buy them on their web site), let alone the Transporter. They are products that most people simply do not understand. When friends come round for dinner and see me using the Controller the usual comment is how are you getting your iPod to play music through your hi-fi. Well at least it is a conversation starter :) The UK has a bit of a head start over the US here as we have DAB digital radio. This gives us a hundred or so digital radio stations, but it is a power hungry and expensive technology so people are accustomed to paying around £100 for a radio you can only plug in - or with limited battery life. It also means the portable radio section of these stores is quite large - so the Radio fits in well. I think internet radios are just beginning to reach the public conciousness, so I reckon the Radio will be most users introduction to the SqueezeBox line. I have a friend who has just found, and become hooked on, Spotify. He now wants to liberate it from his laptop and headphones. He already has a good wireless router so I have recommended he try the Radio. Knowing him, I have little doubt he will own at least two before too long, and maybe even a Touch. -- TheLastMan Matt *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology Diskstation 107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. LPs ripped using Behringer UCA202 USB into Windows XP PC TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
andyg;601310 Wrote: Hi guys, our official version is limited to Touch and Radio. Are you people out of your minds! I have no words... -- OppfinnarJocke // OppfinnarJocke SqueezeBox Duet, Controller FW 7.5.1 r9009, Player FW 66 I mainly use my Duet for Spotify via Triode's plugin, see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 OppfinnarJocke's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22307 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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QQ. What does Spotify have over Napster? Spotify=£10pm, Napster=£5pm? Aside from it maybe working on Friday evenings. ;-) -- simbo *lounge:* receiver; *dining room:* boom; *garden:* classic; *bedroom:* boom; *anywhere:* controller 'last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/buggle52) simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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simbo;602157 Wrote: QQ. What does Spotify have over Napster? Spotify=£10pm, Napster=£5pm? Aside from it maybe working on Friday evenings. ;-) 1. Dedicated iPhone, iPod Touch and Android applications that let you browse music and create playlists over a wi-fi or cellphone connection. 2. The ability to download playlists of tracks onto an iPhone, iPod Touch or Android phone and play the music off line. I am not sure if there is a limit to the number of tracks you can download. These are DRM protected tracks, so you can only listen to them on the one device - you cannot transfer or copy them. This makes the music totally portable for the car or where you do not have cell-phone or wi-fi connection. This is the Napster killer feature in my book. 3. Tracks are encoded at 320 kbps (IIRC Napster is 192). 4. A *Much* more user-friendly web interface (I have not tried the SB app so cannot comment on that). Er... thats it. Napster gives you 5 included downloads for your £5. Spotify does not have that, but then again you can play music off-line anyway so the benefit is limited. -- TheLastMan Matt *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology Diskstation 107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. LPs ripped using Behringer UCA202 USB into Windows XP PC TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
OppfinnarJocke;602151 Wrote: Are you people out of your minds! I have no words... It is a technical issue. They need SqueezeOS to program the DRM rights protection. SqueezeOS is only available on the Touch and Radio. I know... I am in the same Duet boat as you! I even run my Server on a NAS so cannot even use Triode's plugin. Apparently they are porting the necessary libspotify application over to ARM based processors soon, so I am hopeful that Triode will be able to do a version of his plugin for ARM based NAS devices (such as my Synology). I live in hope! At the moment I am limited to using DSBridge - but it is better than nothing. -- TheLastMan Matt *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology Diskstation 107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. LPs ripped using Behringer UCA202 USB into Windows XP PC TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
andyg;601372 Wrote: It requires a premium account, as do all non-PC Spotify apps. Technical point Andy, if I have a Spotify Premium Account, can I use the SqueezeBox Spotify application at the same time as use Spotify on an Android phone? In particular will I be able to use download playists off-line at the same time as I am streaming music over your Spotify App? -- TheLastMan Matt *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology Diskstation 107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. LPs ripped using Behringer UCA202 USB into Windows XP PC TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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TheLastMan;602168 Wrote: Could somebody who uses this facility comment - if there is a limit to off-line listening then this problem does not arise. Apparently it's 3,333 tracks! http://www.spotify.com/uk/help/faq/offline-mode/offline-sync/ -- kidstypike kidstypike 1xSB3 - 1xDuet - 1xBoom - 1xRadio - 1xTouch kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kidstypike;602175 Wrote: Apparently it's 3,333 tracks! http://www.spotify.com/uk/help/faq/offline-mode/offline-sync/ Thanks for the link. You need to read it again though, apparently it is 9,999!! 3,333 on three devices. -- TheLastMan Matt *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology Diskstation 107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. LPs ripped using Behringer UCA202 USB into Windows XP PC TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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simbo;602157 Wrote: QQ. What does Spotify have over Napster? Spotify=£10pm, Napster=£5pm? Aside from it maybe working on Friday evenings. ;-) Due to requirements from our content licensors, the Service is only available to residents of the United States. (from http://music.napster.com/info/terms.html) -- OppfinnarJocke // OppfinnarJocke SqueezeBox Duet, Controller FW 7.5.1 r9009, Player FW 66 I mainly use my Duet for Spotify via Triode's plugin, see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=79706 OppfinnarJocke's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22307 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I have heard from AndyG on a couple of things I should share with this forum: Me Wrote: If I have a Spotify Premium Account, can I use the SqueezeBox Spotify application at the same time as use Spotify on an Android phone? In particular will I be able to use download playists off-line at the same time as I am streaming music over your Spotify App? *Andyg:* Offline may work, since it can't communicate to their server. But multiple streaming sessions from different clients is not allowed. You can stream multiple things using only Squeezeboxes though, as they make an exception for that. me Wrote: Is there a limit to the number of SqueezeBox streams? In other words if I had 4 Radios and 2 Touches could I stream different tracks to each one on the same single £10 Premium account? *Andyg:* This should work. They might restrict if you tried to connect on the same account from different locations (IP addresses), not sure, but from the same household they are OK with it. Back to me: If true, this is a real bonus for those of us with many children. Something for a beta tester to try out it would seem. -- TheLastMan Matt *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology Diskstation 107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. LPs ripped using Behringer UCA202 USB into Windows XP PC TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
TheLastMan;602174 Wrote: Technical point Andy, if I have a Spotify Premium Account, can I use the SqueezeBox Spotify application at the same time as use Spotify on an Android phone? In particular will I be able to use download playists off-line at the same time as I am streaming music over your Spotify App? I have an iTouch, so I'm not sure about an Android phone, but it should be similar. I've just done this: streaming Spotify using the Spotify App on my SB touch, and playing downloaded Spotify playlists on my iTouch in offline mode. The tracks are downloaded to your phone, and stored there, so if you play them offline, Spotify have no means of knowing this. If I stream Spotify on my SB Touch, and start the Spotify app on my iTouch whilst it is online, then the streaming to my SB Touch stops and a warning informs me that Spotify has been stopped because your account is being used elsewhere. So, theoretically, you can download 3,333 tracks and play these offline, whilst streaming to your Touch/Radio. -- kidstypike kidstypike 1xSB3 - 1xDuet - 1xBoom - 1xRadio - 1xTouch kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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banananas;601958 Wrote: Interesting thought, However you could check these Naim high end networkers http://www.naimaudio.com/hifi-product-range/579 and http://www.naimaudio.com/hifi-product-type/577 these are serious Transporter-killers. They're maybe not worth the price but it would be nice after all to see a new Transporter in the news...beating up Naim and the others. But when it comes to Spotify, Naim's not there either ;-) The thing about Naim is that they offer many complete high-end systems at multiple price levels. They build CD players, streamers, integrated amps, pre-amps, power amps, one-box systems, speakers, specialised power supplies, dedicated interconnects etc etc. With just a single high-end product, the Transporter, Logitech cannot hope to compete in the same market. A good market opportunity for Logitech would be to licence their hardware / firmware for inclusion in a high-end system such as Naim. This would not conflict with the Logitech products as the two don't overlap at any price point. A Transporter replacement built by Naim would be awesome! And probably four times the price ;) -- TheLastMan Matt *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology Diskstation 107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. LPs ripped using Behringer UCA202 USB into Windows XP PC TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
TheLastMan;602174 Wrote: Technical point Andy, if I have a Spotify Premium Account, can I use the SqueezeBox Spotify application at the same time as use Spotify on an Android phone? In particular will I be able to use download playists off-line at the same time as I am streaming music over your Spotify App? Hi, I am using a Spotify client on my Nokia E72, my wife on a Nokia N8 and I am running Triode's client on Squeezebox at home. However, only one of them can run at a time. So, if I am playing music using Spotify on Squeezebox - and then start the client on the phone - then the music simply stops on Squeezebox. And the same the other way around. Nice thing though is that if I sync the Squeezebox players in the house, I have 2 Duets and one Radio, then they can all play Spotify at the same time. -- jaaen jaaen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33625 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Before replacing my SB3 with a Touch to get Spotify support i would like to get a look at the Spotify app. Has anyone seen any video demos? Google could not find any. It would be awesome if someone using the beta could record a short clip or take some pictures of the UI. Regards /Magnus -- magnus magnus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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magnus;602292 Wrote: Before replacing my SB3 with a Touch to get Spotify support i would like to get a look at the Spotify app. Has anyone seen any video demos? Google could not find any. It would be awesome if someone using the beta could record a short clip or take some pictures of the UI. Regards /Magnus A few screen grabs from Squeezeplay, which emulates the SB Touch +---+ |Filename: MWSnap035.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11152| +---+ -- kidstypike kidstypike 1xSB3 - 1xDuet - 1xBoom - 1xRadio - 1xTouch kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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And some more ... +---+ |Filename: MWSnap039.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11156| +---+ -- kidstypike kidstypike 1xSB3 - 1xDuet - 1xBoom - 1xRadio - 1xTouch kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I'm not 100% sure but my impression is that the time of fear is over but the dominant factor right now is overselling growth potentials. Since iTunes they've seen digital distribution works. I believe there are a lot of power point presentations out there that show how much more money you could make if you sell the same stuff 7 times instead of one time and that that is the way to go. OK, customers don't do that kind of shot but that doesn't bother the power point presentation. Services like Spotify help them because they spend a lot of money they get from VCs for early growth so you can draw nice charts about how well they grow and how much money they generate how much it will be if that continued the same way for 30 years. And especially if you are having 10 of them because you only give Spotify 5 countries, Napster two, WiMP another two and so on. Unfortunately, after 5 years the VC money is through and they have to scale down on pushyness like it happend to Rhapsody, Napster, Pandora,... in the past but that doesn't matter because until then there will be the next cool growth engine with fresh money who's prospects you can print on your power point slides. The piracy argument is and always has been just a straw man. But then hey: This is not just record industries. Corporate business works this way all around us, doesn't it ;) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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andyg;601337 Wrote: Triode's plugin is able to get away with things that Logitech as a large company cannot do... if you want ip3k support by all means use Triode's plugin. In fact we even made it so that the 2 versions will work at the same time. As Triode's plugin works on Transporter, Boom and SB3...I will continue using Triode's solution with my players. But, will we be able to do that in the future too? Is the plugin still working (and available) next year and the year after that? I'm afraid that Transporter, for example, will drop in sale if there's no official soultion offered. I love the idea of streaming Spotify through squeezenetwork without even using a PC. Isn't there a way for Logitech to create a lite version of the plugin for the older players (with less memory inside?). I'm afraid that's tricky stuff for bigger companies but I really want my players to work with Spotify even in the future without having to swith the Transporter to some SB Touch... Thanks for letting this forum be part of the upcoming releases -- banananas banananas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42966 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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banananas;601893 Wrote: I'm afraid that Transporter, for example, will drop in sale if there's no official soultion offered. Since it's obviously an end of life product anyway that will probably not give Logitech a headache. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;601907 Wrote: Since it's obviously an end of life product anyway that will probably not give Logitech a headache. ...and a new Transporter with lots of memory and even a color screen will be released of course (am I wrong?)...but I still like the old school green screen. It has good readability even from many meters...it would be nice if the old Transporter coul be updated (more memory) or something. -- banananas banananas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42966 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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The problem is that this very kind of display is a part that is no longer available. There are almost no high quality VFDs being produced anymore. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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banananas;601909 Wrote: ...and a new Transporter with lots of memory and even a color screen will be released of course (am I wrong?)...but I still like the old school green screen. It has good readability even from many meters...it would be nice if the old Transporter coul be updated (more memory) or something. I doubt Logitech has any interest in high end audio devices like the Transporter. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;601915 Wrote: The problem is that this very kind of display is a part that is no longer available. There are almost no high quality VFDs being produced anymore. Maybe so, but I can see that Arcam still uses similar types of displays in their Amps etc. -- banananas banananas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42966 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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toby10;601919 Wrote: I doubt Logitech has any interest in high end audio devices like the Transporter. Hope they do -- banananas banananas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42966 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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banananas;601918 Wrote: Maybe so, but I can see that Arcam still uses similar types of displays in their Amps etc. Maybe they have stock. Logitech is also still selling Transporters. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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toby10;601919 Wrote: I doubt Logitech has any interest in high end audio devices like the Transporter. Yes they do, its called the SqueezeBox Touch! OK, hardly high end but pretty good hi-fi. Anybody really serious about high end can team it up with a top notch DAC and get 99% (or more) of the audio quality available from the Transporter. I think we will have to be happy with that as Logitech are not a high-end audio company. I think Andy and co must have accepted that SqueezeBox's future was as a mass market product if Logitech took over. Already I think the Transporter is no longer a current model and they are simply using up their parts stock. Once they have used up all the parts they will stop making it and that will be that. I am (probably vainly) hoping that they might do a dumb version of the Transporter - a sort of super-Receiver with all the high quality network and audio hardware/connectors but without the big box, buttons and VFDs. Most serious buyers would have either a Controller or iPeng anyway. -- TheLastMan Matt *SqueezeBoxes:* SB Duet (Controller + two receivers) *Server:* Synology Diskstation 107+ NAS (with firmware 2.3-1157) running Squeezebox Server 7.5.1 on Synology Package Manager *Network:* Netgear DG834GT ADSL modem/router, 2 x Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 as access points *Livingroom:* Receiver into Naim 42/110 amp, BW CM2 speakers *Kitchen:* Receiver into Denon DM37 mini-system, BW 686 speakers *Study:* Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/Headline. LPs ripped using Behringer UCA202 USB into Windows XP PC TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
TheLastMan;601940 Wrote: Yes they do, its called the SqueezeBox Touch! OK, hardly high end but pretty good hi-fi. Anybody really serious about high end can team it up with a top notch DAC and get 99% (or more) of the audio quality available from the Transporter. I think we will have to be happy with that as Logitech are not a high-end audio company. I think Andy and co must have accepted that SqueezeBox's future was as a mass market product if Logitech took over. Already I think the Transporter is no longer a current model and they are simply using up their parts stock. Once they have used up all the parts they will stop making it and that will be that. I am (probably vainly) hoping that they might do a dumb version of the Transporter - a sort of super-Receiver with all the high quality network and audio hardware/connectors but without the big box, buttons and VFDs. Most serious buyers would have either a Controller or iPeng anyway. Interesting thought, However you could check these Naim high end networkers http://www.naimaudio.com/hifi-product-range/579 and http://www.naimaudio.com/hifi-product-type/577 these are serious Transporter-killers. They're maybe not worth the price but it would be nice after all to see a new Transporter in the news...beating up Naim and the others ;-) -- banananas banananas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42966 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
banananas;601893 Wrote: I'm afraid that Transporter, for example, will drop in sale if there's no official soultion offered. I doubt listening to Spotify is much of a driver for selling Transporters. Very little overlap in customer segments I would expect. banananas;601893 Wrote: Isn't there a way for Logitech to create a lite version of the plugin for the older players (with less memory inside?). As the developers have explained, not unless Spotify remove the DRM malarky. In other words, don't hold your breath. -- alfista alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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TheLastMan;601940 Wrote: Yes they do, its called the SqueezeBox Touch! OK, hardly high end but pretty good hi-fi. Anybody really serious about high end can team it up with a top notch DAC and get 99% (or more) of the audio quality available from the Transporter. Completely agree. ;) But a $300 Touch is a completely different animal than a $2k Transporter. Logitech is mass market, not boutique and IMO they don't even do mass market well when it comes to SB players here in the US. Go to any Best Buy store that is FILLED with Logitech branded items, ask for the SqueezeBox items, and all you get is a blank look on their faces. *If* they find the players in the store at all (usually involves looking it up on their inventory computer) they will be in a different category / location in every store. Sometimes they are with computers, sometimes with the iPod docks, sometimes in home theatre, sometimes with boom boxes -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hello, Spotify offers three types of account. Two of them are paying, and I do not understand why a premium account is necessary. Why an Unlimited account is not enough ? Why the mobile support is needed to listen music on a squeezebox ? The Linux version of Spotify client support Premium and Unlimited account Squeezebox not use the same API ? Thanks. -- slayne40 slayne40's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42899 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Ask Spotify, I would say.. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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slayne40;601588 Wrote: Hello, Spotify offers three types of account. Two of them are paying, and I do not understand why a premium account is necessary. Why an Unlimited account is not enough ? Why the mobile support is needed to listen music on a squeezebox ? The Linux version of Spotify client support Premium and Unlimited account Squeezebox not use the same API ? Thanks. Because they want you to pay money. The free PC version is to get you to use it and then the added services are there to get you to upgrade. Someone needs to make money for this (wonderful) service to continue. Yes, it must be technically possible but it's not in their interests, particularly with record companies anxious about the Freemium model, they want to convert as many as possible. -- HectorHughMunro HectorHughMunro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16514 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Yes without paying customers they can't pay the record labels and without payment they do not allow the usage of 'their' music. -- Scidd0w Scidd0w's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40463 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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The question wah why it's not available on the (also paid) unlimited account. Answer is probably that this is exactly what they want the additional money for the premium account for. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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hoggis;601326 Wrote: Hi, I own a Transporter and a Duet bundle and I'm can't believe what I'm reading. This new app is designed to support two of the most inferior Squeezebox products ever released. I'm sorry but to me it sounds like a joke!! Luckily we have some serious developers like Triode who are actually able to provide the customers with the services they want independent of Squeezebox version. Perhaps you at Logitech should hire him to handle Squeezebox - Spotify development? Thank you Triode for stepping up where Logitech fails. Agreed. Hmp -- gbruzzo SqbxSvr Running on MacMini Server - 1 Transporter - 1 Boom - 1 Controller http://www.last.fm/user/JackieBr/ http://www.last.fm/label/rarenoiserecords http://www.rarenoiserecords.com Support Mick Karn's family : www.rarenoiserecords.com/mick-karn-benefit-page RareNoiseRecords Jukebox : www.rarenoiserecords.com/jukebox gbruzzo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3633 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pfarrell;601512 Wrote: On 01/10/2011 05:26 PM, andyg wrote: bluegaspode;601493 Wrote: Which is kind of funny (stupid?) [...] Yep, you just described the music industry quite well. ;) Agree, with the small notice that the music industry is not interested in singers, musicians, composers, grips or recording engineers. The record labels are interested only in getting money for their product. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ Not all record labels, mind you. I find such sweeping generalisations disingenuous to say the least. -- gbruzzo SqbxSvr Running on MacMini Server - 1 Transporter - 1 Boom - 1 Controller http://www.last.fm/user/JackieBr/ http://www.last.fm/label/rarenoiserecords http://www.rarenoiserecords.com Support Mick Karn's family : www.rarenoiserecords.com/mick-karn-benefit-page RareNoiseRecords Jukebox : www.rarenoiserecords.com/jukebox gbruzzo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3633 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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On 01/11/2011 02:01 PM, gbruzzo wrote: pfarrell;601512 Wrote: Yep, you just described the music industry quite well. ;) Agree, with the small notice that the music industry is not interested in singers, musicians, composers, grips or recording engineers. The record labels are interested only in getting money for their product. Not all record labels, mind you. I find such sweeping generalisations disingenuous to say the least. OK, I'll grant you that some small, independent record labels are not evil to the heart of their soul like the big ones. And I can't keep up with the mergers, I don't know if today there are the big four, or the big five. But I do know that the handful of majors sell 98% or more of all physical CDs and well over 90% of all music on iTunes. I stand by my explicit generalization that the big labels (and the RIAA which cares only about the big labels) care only about money, music be damned. Pat -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Of course, I love small record labels! I was only talking about the big ones, the ones that control how companies like Spotify can operate. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I couldn't care less about record companies making money. It's all the customer-unfriendly politics they are doing that annoys me to hell: Why can't I take my service subscriptions to another country? I don't buy DRM stuff that doesn't work on half of my equipment. Why do I get different content in different countries? And why do record companies and service providers try to regulate which devices I use to listen to their content. Sorry, all of this has nothing to do with piracy, unwillingness to pay or anything. Its just corporate bullshit out of overstaffed strategy departments trying to sell stuff that isn't there. I would be willing to pay. At least as much as I paid for CDs back in the dark ages, probably even much more. But nobody is willing to sell me the content to acceptable conditions anymore and the result is I only spend a fraction of what I spent before, I get less and less interested and in the end j spend money on live concerts instead (which have become both more frequent and much more expensive). So in the end, somebody else is getting my money and eventually evolution will do it's thing. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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pippin;601831 Wrote:
Sorry, all of this has nothing to do with piracy, unwillingness to pay
or anything. Its just corporate bullshit out of overstaffed strategy
departments trying to sell stuff that isn't there.
I would be willing to pay. At least as much as I paid for CDs back in
the dark ages, probably even much more.
And you are not alone, I pretty much feel the exact same way, I'm ready
to pay (under the right conditions) but no one wants to take my
money...
I think there are two main types of piracy:
Type 1:
- People that just collect stuff, they would never pay for it and their
goal is just to take backup of as large part of Internet as possible.
They aren't interested in the stuff they download, they basically just
want to increase the used space on their hard drive and tell their
friends how many tracks/movies they have.
Type 2:
- People similar to you and me who are seriously interested in the
music/movies but want to view it now and want to get it the easiest
possible way. They don't want to wait 3 months for the record label to
release it in their region, they don't want to wait 1 week for the
distributor to ship a physical CD by standard mail, they want it now.
They are prepared to pay for it but no one wants to take their money.
There are also people similar to you and me who have a lot of patience
and is prepared to wait. They either do as you describe and focus on
concerts instead of recordings, or they patiently waits for the
official release on CD in their region and buys it. These people are
the reason why the music/movie industry still survives.
The music/movie industry is currently too scared that there aren't
enough people among type 2 who is ready to pay, so they don't dare to
offer user friendly services which risk to increase piracy, they want
to ensure that they are in full control of their product.
Another important factor to remember is the purpose of a record label
and distributor:
- Finance the recording studio and recording for new talented artists
who can't afford these costs themselves
- Do the advertising when the CD is released, since they want to
optimize the advertising effect and cost they want to learn from one
region of the world before they release it in the next.
- Ensure that the CD is distributed to a place where customers can get
it
- Take their share of the income when the customer buys the product
Switching to a online streaming solution is a huge change for these
companies and their dilemma is that:
- If they switch to a streaming/download solution, the advertising and
distribution are going to be completely differently to what they are
used to. I can understand if they are scared that someone else is going
to offer this a better way and due to this prefer to do their best to
force us to continue use their old fashion business models.
- If they don't switch a streaming/download solution, there is a risk
other record labels do and they will just disappear because other
record labels provides a better service for the talented artist to
distribute his/her work to the people who is prepared to pay for it.
So I can understand why record labels and distributors are scared to
change but I think they will also have to realize that if they don't
change, the needs for their service are going to disappear anyway. They
blame piracy but I think the real reason is that they haven't figured
out a way to ensure to 100% that they are still going to get their
share of the cake in a download/streaming solution. I think someone big
just have to dare to take the first step, then everyone else is going to
follow because they are scared to be left behind.
It's just frustrating that it takes so long time for them to take the
first step.
I remember reading that Spotify solved this by offering some big labels
stocks in the Spotify company, this way the record labels were sure that
they would get some control and also get a share of the earnings if it
became a success. It also didn't cost them much if the service failed,
since they got the stocks really cheap or maybe even for free. When a
few big labels had jumped on the wagon, the rest just followed because
they didn't want to be left behind. Of course, there are still some
labels/artists who haven't seen the possibilities and refuse to offer
their music on Spotify.
--
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Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8250227/Spotify-comes-to-Logitech-Squeezebox.html -- browellm Modwright Transporter Kondo M7 Red Wine Signature 70.2 Avantgarde Uno Nano http://www.last.fm/user/browellm browellm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Unfortunately, though, nothing useful is located at www.mysqueezebox.com/spotify ... at least nothing related to Spotify. Did someone send off their press release a bit early? -- oivindi oivindi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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oivindi;601300 Wrote: Unfortunately, though, nothing useful is located at www.mysqueezebox.com/spotify ... at least nothing related to Spotify. Did someone send off their press release a bit early? The app information is displayed when you follow that link. -- sneeks sneeks's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34546 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Nope, not for me ... I am located in Norway. -- oivindi oivindi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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... and boom, there it was! Strange, must've been a delay somewhere. -- oivindi oivindi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Btw, it seems this will ONLY work on SB Touch and Radio. So no way at all to make it work on the SB 3? -- oivindi oivindi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Hi guys, our official version is limited to Touch and Radio. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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That's a shame, was hoping you would be able to do what Wimp did, and be compatible with all/most SB devices. -- oivindi oivindi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Wimp does not use DRM, Spotify is closed-source and uses DRM... so that's the best we could do. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I see - DRM makes things a bit more complicated. -- oivindi oivindi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
Hi, I own a Transporter and a Duet bundle and I'm can't believe what I'm reading. This new app is designed to support two of the most inferior Squeezebox products ever released. I'm sorry but to me it sounds like a joke!! Luckily we have some serious developers like Triode who are actually able to provide the customers with the services they want independent of Squeezebox version. Perhaps you at Logitech should hire him to handle Squeezebox - Spotify development? Thank you Triode for stepping up where Logitech fails. -- hoggis hoggis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42861 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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andyg;601310 Wrote: Hi guys, our official version is limited to Touch and Radio. Forever, or only for the moment? Will it be possible to use a Radio for Spotify and stream to other non supported devices as well? -- o_cee o_cee's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Triode's plugin is able to get away with things that Logitech as a large company cannot do... if you want ip3k support by all means use Triode's plugin. In fact we even made it so that the 2 versions will work at the same time. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Just curious. What's the main difference between spotify and rhapsody that makes rhapsody work on booms etc? Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk -- NikolajC NikolajC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18676 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Rhapsody appears to not require DRM. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Bummer about SB3 support but great that Logitech have made this official. Nice one. -- havoc1 havoc1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33466 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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NikolajC;601357 Wrote: Just curious. What's the main difference between spotify and rhapsody that makes rhapsody work on booms etc? Rhapsody is DRM but an older and simpler design. Also, they shared the source code with us, which Spotify doesn't do. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Will this official Spotify applet work with a free Spotify account or does it require a paid-for account? Thanks! -- elziko elziko's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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It requires a premium account, as do all non-PC Spotify apps. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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andyg;601372 Wrote: It requires a premium account, as do all non-PC Spotify apps. OK, thanks for letting me know. -- elziko elziko's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
Is there another way of activating the spotify app than through either the Touch or the Radio? I am a premium spotify user and have both a Touch and a Radio but my problem is that http://www.mysqueezebox.com does show the new spotify app in App Gallery! I think it register that I live in Denmark and Spotify hasn't officially been launched here Denmark yet. I use a work-around to get spotify to work (note: this is NOT illegal acording to Danish law). Please help me, I want to try it? -- nicoleif nicoleif's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14351 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
hoggis;601326 Wrote: Hi, I own a Transporter and a Duet bundle and I'm can't believe what I'm reading. This new app is designed to support two of the most inferior Squeezebox products ever released. I'm sorry but to me it sounds like a joke!! nothing inferior about the Touch compared to the Duet from an audio perspective. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
andyg;601316 Wrote: Wimp does not use DRM, Spotify is closed-source and uses DRM... so that's the best we could do. Which is kind of funny (stupid?) of Spotify, because I guess they will lose all types of customers to WiMP because of that. Looking into the sources I see that you have a private libspotify decoder for Spotify, so no playback support via SqueezePad as long as they don't publish an official ARM-based libspotify build (and me implementing that on top of the current decoders :( ) What is the reason one should choose Spotify over WiMP? -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? = why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? = why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
bluegaspode;601493 Wrote: Which is kind of funny (stupid?) [...] Yep, you just described the music industry quite well. ;) -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
On 01/10/2011 05:26 PM, andyg wrote: bluegaspode;601493 Wrote: Which is kind of funny (stupid?) [...] Yep, you just described the music industry quite well. ;) Agree, with the small notice that the music industry is not interested in singers, musicians, composers, grips or recording engineers. The record labels are interested only in getting money for their product. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spotify (officially) on SqueezeboxServer?
pfarrell;601512 Wrote: The record labels are interested only in getting money for their product. Then why on earth don't they just do this and instead chose to shoot into their own feet? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote and *New: iPeng for iPad*, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
