[slim] Digital Output
Hi Regarding problems with lock on external DACS ... About a year ago it was found that the Squeezebox digital output was somewhat off 44.10KHz BUT ... ... Sean quickly [as usual!] fixed this in the firmware. Fortunately I have always routed Squeezeboxes via a device that buffers the input in a FIFO and then clocks it out using its own high-precision, lower jitter clock, so any such inacurracy has never been a problem for me. However, out of curiousity I yesterday connected a Squeezebox to an Apogee Big Ben and it registers the Squeezebox at 44.13KHz :-O [Another long-term issue has been the long settling time of the clock when switching into 'PCM mode' so I left the Squeezebox on repeat all night so that this was not an issue ...] So, I'm wondering why the 44.13KHz: (a) Has the firmware changed?; (b) Is this 'manufacturing variance'? :-O; (c) ... Clearly 44.13KHz is way out of the range of some 'high-end' DACs (e.g. AudioSynthesis DACs have a capture window of only +/- 100ppm - approx. 4Hz), so this could be the cause of some peoples' lock problems. I know other people who read (or at least read) this list (such as Michel, Harry Victor from the TacTHackers group) have both Squeezeboxes and Big Bens - what do you guys (or anyone else having the two) see as frequency these days ...? Regards Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Digital Output
Hi Some interesting observations ... [? :-O] Those who recall the history of the digital-out-channel-swap bug will remember that about a year or so ago I spent several hours doing (amongst other things) successive resets of a Squeezebox to try to get a handle on the bug ... :-O [BTW for those who were not on the list at the time, Sean's conclusion was that the channel-swap bug is unavoidable (with the current DSP) - even if, like me, you only play PCM files! The DSP powers up in 'MP3 mode' so it will always have to switch (if only once) from 'MP3 mode' to 'PCM mode', and whether the channels swap or not on that switch is complete chance (although things do, fortunately, seem to be biased towards not swapping ... :-)] I just did the same thing (successive resets) again this evening but focusing this time on the frequency of the digital out (as measured, after a reasonable settling time, with an Apogee Big Ben): most times the Squeezebox I was using would settle at 44.13KHz but occasionally it would actually be at 44.10KHz. So is the frequency, like the channel-swap bug, a matter of chance (within certain limits) ...? [As an aside I think I noticed, but I was not keeping detailed records of it, that most times it settled at 44.10 the channels were swapped ... :-O] I guess all I have done is confirm what we all knew ... ... i.e. that the current DSP is not at its best in 'PCM mode'. Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Digital Output
Neil Hastie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I tried Adrians patch a few months ago and couldn't get it to work. (In my defense it sounds like an Apogee Big Ben is a more useful piece of test equipment than an Audio Synthesis DAX). Neil If you have a moment, may be you could try it again with the 'magic number' 20134. BTW typically the clock rate settles in a few seconds. Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Digital Output
Mike Reeve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: = The BAD news: Entering 'variable pitch mode' appears to be setting = the Fs bits in the Channel Status Block to 48KHz BTW I am only assuming that this is the case from the behaviour of the downstream box - I could be wrong ... ... if anyone has an SPDIF analyzer could they take a look. Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Use iTunes ...
Did I miss something or is it a bug that Use iTunes has disappeared from Server Settings? [SlimServer_v2005-03-11.dmg + OS X 10.3.8] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Use iTunes ...
kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike, Is is not there, or was it that you hadn't yet noticed that it had been moved to the bottom of the page? kdf WHOOPS + SORRY! I just found that I had accidently de-selected iTunes under Plugins (instead of the adjacent Visualizer Screensaver) ... :-O Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rescan issue ...
Mike Reeve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SlimServer_v2005-03-11.dmg + OS X 10.3.8 + approx. 3000 songs: - Rescan takes a couple of minutes SlimServer_v2005-03-15.dmg (and 03-14 also): - Rescan never seems to end (waited approx. 4 hours) ... As further background: (1) I'm using iTunes (2) Although the scanning doesn't seem to end, after a while browsing will show all the songs Did something major get done to the rescan code between the 11th and 14th ...? Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rescan issue ...
Mike Reeve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whereas when version 03-15 gets to the same point it starts scanning again :-O Dan, Seems to be fixed in 03-17. THANKS! Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Skin cosmetics (Default Fishbone)
Hi SlimServer_v2005-03-17.dmg + OS X 10.3.8 + Safari 1.2.4 A couple of (low priority) issues relating to skin cosmetics ... (1) Default Skin When navigating down through music, say Browse Artists - 'An Artist' - 'An Album', the path (Home/Browse Artists/'An Artist'/'An Album') is displayed as buttons and one can back-track anywhere up the path using the appropriate button. When one reaches a particular song the path is shortened to Home/'A Song', and the only way back up the path is by using the browser's back button. This doesn't seem very consistent, I can see that one might not want to display the full path ((Home/Browse Artists/'An Artist'/'An Album'/'A Song') because of the limited width of the server panel - although would be the most consistent. If not the full path then perhaps a back button (like Fishbone) - or even Home/Back ...? (2) Fishbone (a) If I go to Statistics from the player panel and then return to Playlist all I then see is literally the playlist - the palyer controls etc. are not displayed :-O (b) A small comment/suggestion on/for the 'backlights' to the Play, Stop Pause buttons: At the moment all the buttons light up red when that mode is selected. Perhaps they could be the more standard (?) green for Play, red for Stop orange for Pause ...? Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Got the pony :-)
Hi I just opened the box the UPS man delivered today and found in it the 'pony' that I had ordered - and I also found that the pony seems to come with a free Squeezebox 2 :-) Digital output is rock solid in every way! GREAT WORK FOLKS! MANY THANKS to all those at Slim Devices and to the other developers! Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] kinks in the SB2?
Julian Alden-Salter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I was setting up my squeezebox2 I had to remove my behringer ultramatch (mk1) from between the sb2 and my dac. With the ultramatch (a jitter buster amongst other things) in the loop I got no sound and the emphasis light on both the dac and the behringer flashed randomly. I was surprised to read this as when I connected my new Squeebox 2 to first an Apogee Big Ben and then a Genesis Digital Lens both locked instantly (the Big Ben in narrow mode) and showed exactly 44.10. As I happen to have a Behringer Ultramatch Pro (i.e. the MK2 24/96 version of the Ultramatch) lying around I just connected my Squeezebox 2 to it and it locks instantly/cleanly ... If I recall correctly the Ultramatch MK1 used the old CS8402 SPDIF receiver (whereas the MK2 uses the newer 8412/8414 series), I wonder which receiver the Rotel RSX1056 uses ... Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Fishbone skin ...
Hi Just to re-raise a couple of points on the Fishbone operation/cosmetics: (a) If I go to Statistics from the player panel and then return via the Playlist button then all I see is the playlist - the palyer controls etc. are not displayed. Whilst I agree that this is a literal interpretation of a button labelled Playlist, it is 'frustrating' because to recover the player controls I have to refresh the whole screen, which frequently screws up what I was doing in the server panel :-O Any chance of having the Playlist buton restore the player controls (in addition to the playlist) ...? [Or, if the above behaviour is really what is wanted, then could there be a second button (Player, may be) on the Statistics panel that retores the player controls and playlist ...?] (b) A small comment/suggestion on/for the 'backlights' to the Play, Stop Pause buttons: At the moment all the buttons light up red when that mode is selected. Perhaps they could be the more standard (?) green for Play, red for Stop orange for Pause ...? THANKS! Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2 audio quality.
Natan Nicki Tiefenbrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm hooking my SB up to a Linn DAC, and even with raw WAVs it doesn't sound half as good as the CD player with digital out, so I assume it's to do with the clocking. Hi Just in case you are running a wireless set up ... ... have you checked (and I apologise if you have already done so) that you have set Player Settings Bitrate Limiting to No Limit? [Recall that it defaults to transcoding to 320Kbps MP3 ... ... I forgot this once after changing my set up and had a moment of shock/panic until I remembered :-O] Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] FREE (almost) - Squeezebox 1
Hi Having now bought a collection of Squeezebox 2s, my original Squeezebox 1 (it's wireless and I upgraded its display) is not being used and is looking for a new home ... ... send me a money order to cover the FedEx Ground costs from Boston, MA 02210 to wherever you are (within the USA only) and to make a donation to one of my favourite charities (www.gbfb.org or www.servings.org) and my Squeezebox 1 is yours. E-mail me off-list if you are interested. Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FREE (almost) - Squeezebox 1 (UPDATE)
Mike Reeve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... send me a money order to cover the FedEx Ground costs from Boston, MA 02210 to wherever you are (within the USA only) and to make a donation to one of my favourite charities (www.gbfb.org or www.servings.org) and my Squeezebox 1 is yours. MANY THANKS to Ben Klaas for his generous donation to Community Servings - My Squeezebox 1 is his! [Which, to everyone else, indicates that it has gone - APOLOGIES for not sending individual replies but there was a large number of you ...] Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
