[discuss] Re: No Archives
Hi, On 14.03.2011 21:48, aosd...@gmail.com wrote: Why are there no archives/ We recently moved to a new hosting infrastructure. As one of the last steps the list archive will be migrated. Greetings Stefan -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.
On 15/03/2011 02:15, Robert Derman wrote: Thomas Cameron wrote: To Mike Scott:- Wouldn't it be easier for the receiving site to return a message to the sender advising him/her that the message is in HTML and to change to TEXT? I am using an old version of Thunderbird, I don't like the new ones, they deleted some nice features. Anyway, before sending any email that has HTML, it says that the email has HTML and asks you to make the choice of sending in plain text or both. (please can we not mix top and bottom posting? It does my head in :-) ) One problem is that some people wouldn't have a clue how to change it - and quite likely such a message would have no meaning to them. To how many people is the term 'html' just gobbledygook? Thinking about it, I'd suggest an inverse correlation between html being sent, and ability to understand Why it's not a Good Thing and How to Fix It. Actually, I tried this on my own mail server - bouncing html mails, that is. It just caused aggro because senders couldn't see any problem. I had to remove the bounce code. Much easier if the list software just had a simple-minded renderer. [Ducks to avoid flying pig...] -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: No Archives
On 15/03/2011 06:54, Stefan Taxhet wrote: Hi, On 14.03.2011 21:48, aosd...@gmail.com wrote: Why are there no archives/ We recently moved to a new hosting infrastructure. As one of the last steps the list archive will be migrated. That's as may be. But a '404' wasn't as friendly as a 'coming soon' message, and the current 'The mailing list us...@openoffice.org does not have any messages in its archive' isn't terribly informative. -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.
On 3/14/2011 11:25 AM, Twayne wrote: You got it; this post is in Plain Text. It's a pleasure to meet a good 'netizen and best of luck to you in the future. We all had to start learning somewhere, right? I have been on the 'net since the USENET days, when the 'net became available to us sometime in the mid 80s. I have been aware that HTML was not supported by email readers, and that people were annoyed by posts in HTML. I retired from teaching Computer Science in 2004. In the early 90s I established the first network in our building on Western's campus with internet access. My team and I pulled the wires and installed the routers. We put networked PCs on every faculty member's desk. I have been posting here since the early days of OpenOffice.org, version 1.1 if I recall correctly. And I used OpenOffice.org's predecessor, StarOffice, well before SUN bought it. I knew that Thunderbird's default is to send email in both text and HTML, but I was NOT aware that people still use email readers that can't display the text portion of email without the HTML part. I have not had any complaints from anyone about posting in HTML until now. I can be very annoying at times, so as I said, I make every effort to rectify the unnecessary things that annoy some. Thanks for your response. David Teague sr Emeritus Professor of Computer Science Western Carolina University Retired '04. -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.
On 3/14/2011 10:15 PM, Robert Derman wrote: I am using an old version of Thunderbird, I don't like the new ones, they deleted some nice features. Anyway, before sending any email that has HTML, it says that the email has HTML and asks you to make the choice of sending in plain text or both. Yes, I recall that. It was nice, and TB3 is a good big slower than earlier versions too. With TB3, I was able to prevent any HTML from going to openoffice.org domains. I don't know about TB2. Regards David Teague -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.
On 15/03/11 12:51, David B Teague sr wrote: I knew that Thunderbird's default is to send email in both text and HTML, but I was NOT aware that people still use email readers that can't display the text portion of email without the HTML part. I have not had any complaints from anyone about posting in HTML until now. I can be very annoying at times, so as I said, I make every effort to rectify the unnecessary things that annoy some. It's not just annoyance. html is /vastly/ bigger than the corresponding straight text file and chews up link bandwidth, mailer bandwidth and disk space (I've seen one-liner emails with megabytes of pretty paper attached, the originator being quite unaware of what they were doing). And because it's more complex to decipher, it's correspondingly less secure (so decent MUAs have yet another html render program to make sure they don't use the insecure system-provided one) and it's harder to detect and chuck spam. It just seems so unutterably pointless. IMO of course. But this is rather OT for the list, I think :-) -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Gmane
When are you going to re-enable posting through gmane without the post going through a moderator? Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.
On 2011/03/11 10:25 AM Twayne wrote: In news:4d7a11a2.8020...@comporium.net, David B Teague srdavidbtea...@comporium.net typed: : : : clipe / Please post in Text mode; HTML mode shows all the stupid HTML code and makes reading your post fairly difficult to impossible, depending on what client is trying to read it. I have no problem reading David's original message. I do not see any HTML code. His message is on mutli format style with both HTML and plain text versions. If you are seeing the HTML code when you read the message, the problem is at your end. Configure your e-mail program to read it properly or set it to read only the plain text version. Why do you use : to indicate quoted text rather than the standard Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: Gmane
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.comwrote: When are you going to re-enable posting through gmane without the post going through a moderator? Your first post to users went through. The one to discuss was moderated. To answer your question - I don't know a time frame. I'm not sure anyone does. I'm not even sure if the current system (Sympa) could be modified to handle gmane posts as the old system did. For those following this thread - there is a work around for those posting through gmane - while its not ideal, nor elegant, nor in line with the information that is on the web pages currently, it does work (AFAIK). /paul Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.
David B Teague sr wrote: On 3/14/2011 10:15 PM, Robert Derman wrote: I am using an old version of Thunderbird, I don't like the new ones, they deleted some nice features. Anyway, before sending any email that has HTML, it says that the email has HTML and asks you to make the choice of sending in plain text or both. Yes, I recall that. It was nice, and TB3 is a good big slower than earlier versions too. With TB3, I was able to prevent any HTML from going to openoffice.org domains. I don't know about TB2. Regards David Teague It is Tbird 2.0 that I am using. on some of the later versions they made it much harder to increase the size of the text for readability. I decided that I just wasn't willing to put up with that, so I went back to my old copy of Tbird that was on a machine that I was about to retire, burned it to a CD and installed it in my new laptop. It continues to amaze me at how much software developers can manage to unimprove good applications when they update them. -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.
On 3/15/2011 4:50 PM, Robert Derman wrote: It continues to amaze me at how much software developers can manage to unimprove good applications when they update them. -- -- HEAR! HEAR! for the man speaks the truth. I am tempted to run to the fork of the Thunderbird code that is said to be much more lean and nimble yet has the same functionality. Now that I say it, I'll look. Thanks! --David -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.
On 2011/03/15 2:50 PM Robert Derman wrote: David B Teague sr wrote: On 3/14/2011 10:15 PM, Robert Derman wrote: I am using an old version of Thunderbird, I don't like the new ones, they deleted some nice features. Anyway, before sending any email that has HTML, it says that the email has HTML and asks you to make the choice of sending in plain text or both. You can set up Thunderbird 3 to do the same Yes, I recall that. It was nice, and TB3 is a good big slower than earlier versions too. With TB3, I was able to prevent any HTML from going to openoffice.org domains. I don't know about TB2. TB3 on my Mac is much faster than TB2 was. It is Tbird 2.0 that I am using. on some of the later versions they made it much harder to increase the size of the text for readability. TB3 is as easy to set up for displayed text size as TB 2 was. It continues to amaze me at how much software developers can manage to unimprove good applications when they update them. -- I find TB3 to be much better than TB2. Some major bugs/defects that I had to workaround almost daitly have been fixed. Of course there are some new quirks introduced, but I would never revert to TB2. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- - To unsubscribe send email to discuss-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands send email to sy...@openoffice.org with Subject: help
