[discuss] Re: sorry for the delay

2011-09-23 Thread David B Teague sr

On 9/23/2011 2:44 PM, Axel Hirsch wrote:

Friends,
I really did not want to be removed, but stop the regular sending of 
mails to perhaps start it again later.

Is that possible?
Axel

yes.

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[discuss] Re: [ANN] This list is migrating to ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org

2011-09-05 Thread David B Teague sr

On 9/5/2011 12:50 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

On Sun, 4 Sep 2011, Rob Weir wrote:


Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 00:38:03 -0400
From: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
SNIP

Please note that, as part of the overall migration of OpenOffice.org
to Apache, this discuss list will be retired.  New lists, hosted by
Apache, will be taking its place.




Why?

Hi Bret

You know that Oracle inherited OO.o by way of their purchase of SUN. 
Oracle isn't going to provide support for OO.o as Sun did. They donated 
OpenOffice.org source and trademarks to the Apache foundation and will 
end their support for OO.o mailing lists and archives.  There is far too 
much valuable information that was and is being passed in these mailing 
lists to let them and the archives just vanish. Apache will host new lists.


Warmest Regards
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[discuss] Re: People trying to make money on openoffice.org

2011-08-23 Thread David B Teague sr

On 8/23/2011 4:18 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 16:50, RA Brownrabr...@the-martin-byrd.net  wrote:

  They also have to have at least as link to the source so that anyone can
download it.  I do not understand Norwegian so I can not tell how close they
are crossing the line.

What is amazing is that people continue to do these kind of things
without knowing that someone, someday, is going to find out and report
back to the developers

FC
I used Google translate to see the page in English. I found no reference 
to authorship on the page I looked at. There also is no link to the 
source apparent, but I had to go looking for the the source for OO.o and 
LO. All that is required (I think I have this right) that the source 
code be made available at a cost no greater than actual cost of 
providing it. For binaries, you can charge what the market will bear. 
Not the GPL's words, but close.


As I recall, the FSF charged a chunk of money (perhaps a couple 
hundred?) in the mid 80s for tapes of Emacs and Gnu C sources. That was 
a hell of a lot of money back then.


My point is: It is not illegal to sell binaries if the source is made 
available, and the authors are acknowledged.  Is either of these being done?


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[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.

2011-03-15 Thread David B Teague sr

On 3/14/2011 11:25 AM, Twayne wrote:

You got it; this post is in Plain Text.

It's a pleasure to meet a good 'netizen and best of luck to you in the
future. We all had to start learning somewhere, right?
I have been on the 'net since the USENET days, when the 'net  became 
available to us sometime in the mid 80s. I have been aware that HTML was 
not supported by email readers, and that people were annoyed by posts in 
HTML.


I retired from teaching Computer Science in 2004. In the early 90s I 
established the first network in our building on Western's campus with 
internet access. My team and I pulled the wires and installed the 
routers. We put networked PCs on every faculty member's desk.


I have been posting here since the early days of OpenOffice.org, version 
1.1 if I recall correctly. And I used OpenOffice.org's predecessor, 
StarOffice, well before SUN bought it.


I knew that Thunderbird's default is to send email in both text and 
HTML, but I was NOT aware that people still use email readers that can't 
display the text portion of email without the HTML part.


I have not had any complaints from anyone about posting in HTML until 
now. I can be very annoying at times, so as I said, I make every effort 
to rectify the unnecessary things that annoy some.


Thanks for your response.

David Teague sr
Emeritus Professor of Computer Science
Western Carolina University
Retired '04.


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[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.

2011-03-15 Thread David B Teague sr

On 3/14/2011 10:15 PM, Robert Derman wrote:
I am using an old version of Thunderbird, I don't like the new ones, 
they deleted some nice features.   Anyway, before sending any email 
that has HTML, it says that the email has HTML and asks you to make 
the choice of sending in plain text or both.
Yes, I recall that. It was nice, and TB3 is a good big slower than 
earlier versions too. With TB3,  I was able to prevent any HTML from 
going to openoffice.org domains. I don't know about TB2.


Regards
David Teague

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[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.

2011-03-15 Thread David B Teague sr

On 3/15/2011 4:50 PM, Robert Derman wrote:
It continues to amaze me at how much software developers can manage to 
unimprove good applications when they update them. --

--

HEAR! HEAR! for the man speaks the truth.

I am tempted to run to the fork of the Thunderbird code that is said to 
be much more lean and nimble yet has the same functionality. Now that I 
say it, I'll look. Thanks!


--David

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[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.

2011-03-14 Thread David B Teague sr

On 3/14/2011 3:51 AM, Mike Scott wrote:

On 14/03/2011 00:10, David B Teague sr wrote:
...

Am I posting in HTML mode? Tell me if I am, and I'll do my best to find


Yes.


out how to stop that.


Good idea.


Thanks for the heads up. It think those of us who use a mail reader that 
is HTML aware, such as Thunderbird will not know that is a problem for 
anyone else. I can be annoying enough just being myself.  I don't need 
annoy with HTML.


For the benefit of anyone using TB, here is what I did. Others ignore, 
please.


By default TB sends all domains both HTML and Text.

HTML mail allows formatting that Text doesn't.  I looked in TB's Options 
 Format This provides Text or HTML and other options without 
exception. To find a more fine grained solution, I looked in 
Thunderbird's Tools  Options  Composition,  clicked the Send Options. 
A setting there determines whether HTMLis sent and domain exceptions are 
provided for.


I added openoffice.org as a text only domain.

**Please let me know if I was successful in sending TEXT only to this list.

--David


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[discuss] Re: registration? Not Needed.

2011-03-13 Thread David B Teague sr

On 3/11/2011 11:25 AM, Twayne wrote:

Please post in Text mode; HTML mode shows all the stupid HTML code and makes
reading your post fairly difficult to impossible, depending on what client
is trying to read it.

HTH,

Twayne`


Am I posting in HTML mode? Tell me if I am, and I'll do my best to find 
out how to stop that.


Many thanks for your response to the registration question. It makes 
sense. I won't register with Oracle. I also won't switch to Libreoffice 
/yet/,  because my major use of the computer (beyond email) is 
preparation of Writer documents (and music scores with Finale, but 
that's not part of this discussion.)


Again, thank you!
David Teague

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[discuss] Re: registration?

2011-03-13 Thread David B Teague sr

On 3/11/2011 10:29 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote:
I had no difficulty creating an account with Oracle. On the 
registration page I clicked on Create an Oracle.com account now. I 
filled in all the spaces for e-mail, password, name, etc., then 
clicked Create and then had an account. 
That it was easy for you does not mean it was easy when I sent to that 
site.


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[discuss] Re: registration?

2011-03-11 Thread David B Teague sr

On 3/11/2011 10:10 AM, RA Brown wrote:
I am not sure that there is a benefit to the community.  And I agree 
that if they want people to register that it should be easy and fast.


Just my 2cents.
Andy 
It was not easy, and I tried.  I wish I perceived Oracle to be  benign. 
I do not.

Thanks,
David


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[discuss] Re: F Re: registration?

2011-03-11 Thread David B Teague sr

On 3/11/2011 12:19 PM, pat wrote:
For what it's worth I just upgradedmy laptop to OO3.3, and had no 
difficulty with the load, and registration.  Nor have I experienced 
any troubles taking files both odt. and doc. format from desktop Dell 
to the laptop via memory stick.
I feel fortunate having had no trouble, and maybe because my needs are 
simple.

My thanks and gratitude go to the staff of OOo.
I am happy you had no trouble. I too had no trouble with fetching the 
installation program either, but the registration was hell, in fact, not 
done, because of Oracle's web site. I have had little trouble with OO.o, 
and never had any trouble back when all of this was Sun's.



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[discuss] registration?

2011-03-09 Thread David B Teague sr
I had to install a new HD, which required reinstalling OO.o.  I 
attempted to register, I needed to create an account, but the account 
creation web site refuses to accept any proffered password whatsoever. 
It appears to be impossible to contact Oracle unless I am offering money.


How do I register?  Perhaps the question should be Do I really NEED to 
register?


I thought registering would help the community in some way or I wouldn't 
bother.


Thoughts on any of this?

Thanks
David

(apology for posting this on users and discuss)

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