Re: XForm integration with the RestLet framework possible?

2008-07-08 Thread Rémi Dewitte
I don't know very well about OPS. I just like to let you know that I have
been able to integrate successfully (so far) Saxon and Restlet. I might
publish it as an extension.
Basically, Restlet does the handling of requests delegating processing to
xqueries. All the application logic and presentation logic is written with
xquery.

I don't really know what kind of framework you would like to use to
connect to your datasources but I think that Restlet has no builtin for
these concerns.

Hope it helps,
Rémi

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:30 AM, ilango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 Could you elaborate more on this Resource subclass?

 thanks
 ilango




 --- On *Mon, 7/7/08, Avi Flax [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 From: Avi Flax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: XForm integration with the RestLet framework possible?
 To: discuss@restlet.tigris.org
 Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 3:39 PM


 On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:41 PM, ilango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have an XForm built on the OPS XForms processor. Rather than use the OPS
 pipelines for connecting my XForms to datasources I would like to use the
 Restlet Framework to connect my XForm fields to datasources like MySQL, a
 Web Service, XML databases like eXist, etc.

 I would like to get XML data into my XForm, regardless of the type of
 datasource.


 I'm not feeling this. Not sure this is something that the framework, or
 even an extension, should handle. Could be a slippery slope towards the
 framework trying to be everything for everyone. Why not just write the glue
 yourself in a Resource subclass?

 --
 Avi Flax » Lead Technologist » Partner » Arc90 » http://arc90.com





RE: XForm integration with the RestLet framework possible?

2008-07-08 Thread Jerome Louvel
Hi all,
 
The closest RFE we have for Ilango's concern is this one:
 
Support XQuery and XForms
http://restlet.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=8
I'm not sure yet how exactly the framework could help, but this might be worth 
exploring. The RFE points to an interesting article:
 
XRX: Simple, Elegant, Disruptive
http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2008/05/xrx_a_simple_elegant_disruptiv_1.html
 
XForms on the client
REST interfaces
and XQuery on the server
 
Best regards,
Jerome
 
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De : Rémi Dewitte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : mardi 8 juillet 2008 09:30
À : discuss@restlet.tigris.org
Objet : Re: XForm integration with the RestLet framework possible?


I don't know very well about OPS. I just like to let you know that I have been 
able to integrate successfully (so far) Saxon and Restlet. I might publish it 
as an extension.
Basically, Restlet does the handling of requests delegating processing to 
xqueries. All the application logic and presentation logic is written with 
xquery.

I don't really know what kind of framework you would like to use to connect 
to your datasources but I think that Restlet has no builtin for these concerns.

Hope it helps,
Rémi


On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:30 AM, ilango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi 
Could you elaborate more on this Resource subclass? 

thanks
ilango




--- On Mon, 7/7/08, Avi Flax [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



From: Avi Flax [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XForm integration with the RestLet framework possible?
To: discuss@restlet.tigris.org
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 3:39 PM 


On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:41 PM, ilango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I have an XForm built on the OPS XForms processor. Rather than use the OPS 
pipelines for connecting my XForms to datasources I would like to use the 
Restlet Framework to connect my XForm fields to datasources like MySQL, a Web 
Service, XML databases like eXist, etc.

I would like to get XML data into my XForm, regardless of the type of 
datasource.   


I'm not feeling this. Not sure this is something that the framework, or even an 
extension, should handle. Could be a slippery slope towards the framework 
trying to be everything for everyone. Why not just write the glue yourself in a 
Resource subclass?
 
-- 
Avi Flax » Lead Technologist » Partner » Arc90 » http://arc90.com






Re: XForm integration with the RestLet framework possible?

2008-07-08 Thread Avi Flax
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:30 PM, ilango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Could you elaborate more on this Resource subclass?


See: http://www.restlet.org/documentation/1.0/firstResource

or:http://www.restlet.org/documentation/1.1/firstResource

depending on which version of Restlet you're using.


Re: XForm integration with the RestLet framework possible?

2008-07-08 Thread Bruno Harbulot

Hi,

In our system, we use content-type negotiation to serve our own 
content-type (XML-based) to the client API and XHTML to web-browsers. An 
XSLT transform to produce some XHTML with XForms and incorporate the 
data into the XForm instance. The browser-based interface was originally 
intended to be used for debugging the service, thus we used the Mozilla 
XForms plugin in Firefox 2, which was fine for a handful of 
developers/testers. The XML data mostly comes from a relational database 
(Oracle/PostgreSQL) via Hibernate (unfortunately, Hibernate doesn't 
handle Oracle's XmlType, so we resort to a few tricks).
Since Firefox 3, this plugin not available for FF3, so I've tried 
FormFaces(.com), which essentially transforms the XForms into HTML forms 
with JavaScript. It works with more browsers (Firefox 2, Safari 3, IE 7) 
but not all (IE 8b2, Firefox 3, Opera).
I've had a quick look at Shiba last week, but haven't had time to 
investigate it further; it seems it could work well, but I was wondering 
how its notion of session would work out. I've only had a briefer look 
at Oberon, but I'd be keen on seeing how it could work with Restlet.


Best wishes,

Bruno.


Rémi Dewitte wrote:
I don't know very well about OPS. I just like to let you know that I 
have been able to integrate successfully (so far) Saxon and Restlet. I 
might publish it as an extension.
Basically, Restlet does the handling of requests delegating processing 
to xqueries. All the application logic and presentation logic is written 
with xquery.


I don't really know what kind of framework you would like to use to 
connect to your datasources but I think that Restlet has no builtin 
for these concerns.


Hope it helps,
Rémi

On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:30 AM, ilango [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi
Could you elaborate more on this Resource subclass?

thanks
ilango




--- On *Mon, 7/7/08, Avi Flax /[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

From: Avi Flax [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XForm integration with the RestLet framework possible?
To: discuss@restlet.tigris.org mailto:discuss@restlet.tigris.org
Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 3:39 PM


On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:41 PM, ilango [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have an XForm built on the OPS XForms processor. Rather
than use the OPS pipelines for connecting my XForms to
datasources I would like to use the Restlet Framework to
connect my XForm fields to datasources like MySQL, a Web
Service, XML databases like eXist, etc.

I would like to get XML data into my XForm, regardless of
the type of datasource.


I'm not feeling this. Not sure this is something that the
framework, or even an extension, should handle. Could be a
slippery slope towards the framework trying to be everything for
everyone. Why not just write the glue yourself in a Resource
subclass?
 
-- 
Avi Flax » Lead Technologist » Partner » Arc90 » http://arc90.com