Re: Code::Blocks and FIR pm_remez algorithm

2023-10-01 Thread Nic Bretz
After hours of trying to figure it out, I gave up on Code::Blocks. I spent 
another few hours and now I'm able to get VSCode to run a .py file.

From: discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ayodha=hotmail@gnu.org 
 on behalf of N B 

Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2023 7:42 PM
To: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org 
Subject: Code::Blocks and FIR pm_remez algorithm

Helo,

I was looking at the FIR algorithm in pm_remez.cc and saw it is based on the 
old Janovetz implementation of Parks-McClellan. The author of one of my DSP 
books, Andreas Antoniou, makes the statement that he improved on the original 
Parsk-McClellan algorithm. I found another paper online where the author makes 
a similar statement.

I have no idea how accurate those statements are, but I am going to experiment 
with those algorithms. I'll make those initial experiments outside GNU Radio 
and if something good ever comes out of it, I would like to modify pm_remez.cc 
with the new algos, even if only for my personal use.

I'm getting to my issues, which I guess are really basic, but I'm new to 
Code::Blocks.

I created the .cbp file and opened the project in Code::Blocks. I was trying to 
trace the entire path from gr_filter_design to pm_remez.cc and wasn't getting 
anywhere.

When I look under the folder gr-filter, I see only two subfolders, lib and 
python. Eventually I looked in Github and there I could see several more 
subfolders under gr-filter, which I don't have in CB. (I couldn't be more 
grateful for the ability to search definitions and references in Github. I was 
able to trace the entire path in a few minutes)

My questions in order of importance are:

Why don't those folders display in CB?
Is it possible to Run the entire project in CB? It builds fine, but it just 
doesn't run.

Thanks,
Nic


Re: Code::Blocks and FIR pm_remez algorithm

2023-10-01 Thread Marcus D. Leech

On 01/10/2023 01:06, Nic Bretz wrote:
Thanks for taking the time to reply. Frankly, I don't know what I 
don't know, even after hours of online searches.


I've never seen an instance in an IDE where some folders are 
displaying and others, at the same level, are not. For somebody like 
me, new to GNU radio and CB, it's impossible to know if the issue is a 
quirk of the IDE or the software.


I've chosen CB because that's what I read about in the wiki. I tried 
VS Code but I couldn't get it to build, let alone run. At least CB builds.


The GNU Radio wiki is quite informative. For users. There is hardly 
anything in there for developers. I know, we figure out things, 
eventually. Except when we get stuck and run in circles. I spent hours 
of my spare time trying to get basic things to work, hours that I 
actually wanted to spend on algorithms.
Since Gnu Radio is *primarily* a *development framework* for developers 
of signal-processing software, one could argue
  that the entirety of the documentation is aimed at developers. I'll 
just pick some random examples:


https://wiki.gnuradio.org/index.php/BlocksCodingGuide

https://wiki.gnuradio.org/index.php?title=Creating_C%2B%2B_OOT_with_gr-modtool

https://wiki.gnuradio.org/index.php?title=Creating_Your_First_Block

Gnu Radio uses a bunch of underlying tools, like C++ and its compilers, 
Python, CMake, make, pybind11, etc, etc, etc.  What
  you WONT find is detailed tutorials on each of those tools within the 
Gnu Radio documentation hierarchy.   Information on each
  of those tools is better served in other forums, and, like most Open 
Source projects, Gnu Radio has limited resources.  It would be,
  quite honestly, wasteful of those resources to provide detailed 
tutorials on each of the tools that the Gnu Radio project uses.


I don't know why Code::Blocks isn't "seeing" the Gnu Radio code tree.  
That, I'm nearly 100% certain, isn't the fault of
  the Gnu Radio code tree.  There's nothing particularly "special" 
about it.   It is, after all, just a hierarchy of files, like
  any other file hierarchy in the history of ever.  If your editor of 
choice cannot see that hierarchy, it is likely not the

  fault of said hierarchy, at least, in my experience.




Anyway, sorry for the rant.

*From:* discuss-gnuradio-bounces+ayodha=hotmail@gnu.org 
 on behalf of 
Marcus D. Leech 

*Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2023 9:11 PM
*To:* discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org 
*Subject:* Re: Code::Blocks and FIR pm_remez algorithm
On 30/09/2023 22:42, N B wrote:

Helo,

I was looking at the FIR algorithm in pm_remez.cc and saw it is based 
on the old Janovetz implementation of Parks-McClellan. The author of 
one of my DSP books, Andreas Antoniou, makes the statement that he 
improved on the original Parsk-McClellan algorithm. I found another 
paper online where the author makes a similar statement.


I have no idea how accurate those statements are, but I am going to 
experiment with those algorithms. I'll make those initial experiments 
outside GNU Radio and if something good ever comes out of it, I would 
like to modify pm_remez.cc with the new algos, even if only for my 
personal use.


I'm getting to my issues, which I guess are really basic, but I'm new 
to Code::Blocks.


I created the .cbp file and opened the project in Code::Blocks. I was 
trying to trace the entire path from gr_filter_design to pm_remez.cc 
and wasn't getting anywhere.


When I look under the folder gr-filter, I see only two subfolders, 
lib and python. Eventually I looked in Github and there I could see 
several more subfolders under gr-filter, which I don't have in CB. (I 
couldn't be more grateful for the ability to search definitions and 
references in Github. I was able to trace the entire path in a few 
minutes)


My questions in order of importance are:

Why don't those folders display in CB?
Is it possible to Run the entire project in CB? It builds fine, but 
it just doesn't run.


Thanks,
Nic
Your question is a bit like asking George Lucas why the BluRay copy of 
Episode IV won't play in your machine


This isn't the Code::Blocks support mailing list, so my guess is that 
your question would be better asked in a more appropriate
  group.  There are literally *dozens* of editing/IDE environments 
that people use to work on Gnu Radio code.