Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] I hate Unity

2011-10-18 Thread Paul M. Bendixen
I have had no problems installing Gnu Radio under Kubuntu.
If you already have a potent machine, try that. It gives the added bonus of
being much prettier than Gnome ;)

Best Regards
Paul M. Bendixen

2011/10/17 Ben Hilburn 

> N.B.: What follows is obviously all opinion:
>
> I can't stand Unity, and the default settings for Gnome 3 drove me nuts.
>
> If you are willing to put the effort in, you can install a bunch of
> extensions that will make it at least approach the usability of Gnome 2.
>
> I recommend:
> http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/gnome32.html
> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/official-gnome-shell-extensions.html
>
> After installing, restart Gnome, and then use the 'Advanced Settings' menu
> (which is actually a shortcut to the tool Bob mentioned, gnome-tweak-tool)
> to enable the extensions you want.
>
> I was able to almost achieve what I had in Gnome 2 by doing this - although
> there are still some annoyances.
>
> I really don't understand why Gnome3 took this giant step backwards, and
> Canonical took Ubuntu even further backwards with Unity.
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Vincenzo Pellegrini 
> wrote:
>
>> Just a couple of lines to cast my ballot in favor of Bob's complaint.
>>
>> I had the same reaction in response to Fedora 15 reception of the Gnome3
>> thing.
>> That stuff does move too far away from the power-user-desktop concept I've
>> been enjoying for several years as a developer.
>>
>> Also I'm a bit frustrated to have to go after that load of "tweaks" in
>> order to get a freshly installed system usable.
>>
>> my best regards to everybody there
>>
>> vince
>>
>>
>> 2011/10/17 Alexandru Csete 
>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Tom Rondeau 
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Robert McGwier 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Install gnome-tweak-tools to get advanced settings for gnome to be
>>> able to
>>> >> get your favorite settings after you install gnome-shell.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Robert McGwier >> >
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/10/03/install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-11-10/
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Bob McGwier
>>> >>> Facebook: N4HYBob
>>> >>> ARS: N4HY
>>> >
>>> > Or do what I did: apt-get install gnome-session-fallback and switch to
>>> Gnome
>>> > Classic Mode at the login screen. Removes Unity.
>>> > I haven't heard anyone say a good thing about Unity. It's an awful
>>> > environment to develop under. The first thing I do in Ubuntu now is
>>> stop
>>> > using it.
>>> > I'm now shopping around for another Linux distro if they keep going
>>> this
>>> > way.
>>> > Tom
>>>
>>> On Ubuntu 11.04 I have installed Xfce desktop ( http://www.xfce.org/ )
>>> - it is available via the package manager (or by installing xubuntu
>>> instead of regular ubuntu). It is similar to Gnome 2 and is very
>>> lightweight.
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] I hate Unity

2011-10-17 Thread Ben Hilburn
N.B.: What follows is obviously all opinion:

I can't stand Unity, and the default settings for Gnome 3 drove me nuts.

If you are willing to put the effort in, you can install a bunch of
extensions that will make it at least approach the usability of Gnome 2.

I recommend:
http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/gnome32.html
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/official-gnome-shell-extensions.html

After installing, restart Gnome, and then use the 'Advanced Settings' menu
(which is actually a shortcut to the tool Bob mentioned, gnome-tweak-tool)
to enable the extensions you want.

I was able to almost achieve what I had in Gnome 2 by doing this - although
there are still some annoyances.

I really don't understand why Gnome3 took this giant step backwards, and
Canonical took Ubuntu even further backwards with Unity.

Cheers,
Ben

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Vincenzo Pellegrini wrote:

> Just a couple of lines to cast my ballot in favor of Bob's complaint.
>
> I had the same reaction in response to Fedora 15 reception of the Gnome3
> thing.
> That stuff does move too far away from the power-user-desktop concept I've
> been enjoying for several years as a developer.
>
> Also I'm a bit frustrated to have to go after that load of "tweaks" in
> order to get a freshly installed system usable.
>
> my best regards to everybody there
>
> vince
>
>
> 2011/10/17 Alexandru Csete 
>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Tom Rondeau 
>> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Robert McGwier 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Install gnome-tweak-tools to get advanced settings for gnome to be able
>> to
>> >> get your favorite settings after you install gnome-shell.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Robert McGwier 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/10/03/install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-11-10/
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Bob McGwier
>> >>> Facebook: N4HYBob
>> >>> ARS: N4HY
>> >
>> > Or do what I did: apt-get install gnome-session-fallback and switch to
>> Gnome
>> > Classic Mode at the login screen. Removes Unity.
>> > I haven't heard anyone say a good thing about Unity. It's an awful
>> > environment to develop under. The first thing I do in Ubuntu now is stop
>> > using it.
>> > I'm now shopping around for another Linux distro if they keep going this
>> > way.
>> > Tom
>>
>> On Ubuntu 11.04 I have installed Xfce desktop ( http://www.xfce.org/ )
>> - it is available via the package manager (or by installing xubuntu
>> instead of regular ubuntu). It is similar to Gnome 2 and is very
>> lightweight.
>>
>> Alex
>>
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] I hate Unity

2011-10-17 Thread Vincenzo Pellegrini
Just a couple of lines to cast my ballot in favor of Bob's complaint.

I had the same reaction in response to Fedora 15 reception of the Gnome3
thing.
That stuff does move too far away from the power-user-desktop concept I've
been enjoying for several years as a developer.

Also I'm a bit frustrated to have to go after that load of "tweaks" in order
to get a freshly installed system usable.

my best regards to everybody there

vince

2011/10/17 Alexandru Csete 

> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Tom Rondeau 
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Robert McGwier 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Install gnome-tweak-tools to get advanced settings for gnome to be able
> to
> >> get your favorite settings after you install gnome-shell.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Robert McGwier 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/10/03/install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-11-10/
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Bob McGwier
> >>> Facebook: N4HYBob
> >>> ARS: N4HY
> >
> > Or do what I did: apt-get install gnome-session-fallback and switch to
> Gnome
> > Classic Mode at the login screen. Removes Unity.
> > I haven't heard anyone say a good thing about Unity. It's an awful
> > environment to develop under. The first thing I do in Ubuntu now is stop
> > using it.
> > I'm now shopping around for another Linux distro if they keep going this
> > way.
> > Tom
>
> On Ubuntu 11.04 I have installed Xfce desktop ( http://www.xfce.org/ )
> - it is available via the package manager (or by installing xubuntu
> instead of regular ubuntu). It is similar to Gnome 2 and is very
> lightweight.
>
> Alex
>
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] I hate Unity

2011-10-17 Thread Alexandru Csete
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Tom Rondeau  wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Robert McGwier 
> wrote:
>>
>> Install gnome-tweak-tools to get advanced settings for gnome to be able to
>> get your favorite settings after you install gnome-shell.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Robert McGwier 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/10/03/install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-11-10/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob McGwier
>>> Facebook: N4HYBob
>>> ARS: N4HY
>
> Or do what I did: apt-get install gnome-session-fallback and switch to Gnome
> Classic Mode at the login screen. Removes Unity.
> I haven't heard anyone say a good thing about Unity. It's an awful
> environment to develop under. The first thing I do in Ubuntu now is stop
> using it.
> I'm now shopping around for another Linux distro if they keep going this
> way.
> Tom

On Ubuntu 11.04 I have installed Xfce desktop ( http://www.xfce.org/ )
- it is available via the package manager (or by installing xubuntu
instead of regular ubuntu). It is similar to Gnome 2 and is very
lightweight.

Alex

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] I hate Unity

2011-10-17 Thread Tom Rondeau
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Robert McGwier wrote:

> Install gnome-tweak-tools to get advanced settings for gnome to be able to
> get your favorite settings after you install gnome-shell.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Robert McGwier wrote:
>
>>
>> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/10/03/install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-11-10/
>>
>> --
>> Bob McGwier
>> Facebook: N4HYBob
>> ARS: N4HY
>>
>

Or do what I did: apt-get install gnome-session-fallback and switch to Gnome
Classic Mode at the login screen. Removes Unity.

I haven't heard anyone say a good thing about Unity. It's an awful
environment to develop under. The first thing I do in Ubuntu now is stop
using it.

I'm now shopping around for another Linux distro if they keep going this
way.

Tom
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] I hate Unity

2011-10-17 Thread Robert McGwier
Install gnome-tweak-tools to get advanced settings for gnome to be able to
get your favorite settings after you install gnome-shell.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Robert McGwier wrote:

>
> http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/10/03/install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-11-10/
>
> --
> Bob McGwier
> Facebook: N4HYBob
> ARS: N4HY
>
>
>


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[Discuss-gnuradio] I hate Unity

2011-10-17 Thread Robert McGwier
http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2011/10/03/install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-11-10/

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