Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] IQ changing with restart

2014-02-11 Thread Sylvain Munaut
Hi,

 I've done my homework on this one, crawled through the web  talked to
 colleagues. If I am missing something obvious please point it out - it's not
 for lack of effort on my part!

I'm not really sure what you're expecting. Of course the phase
alignement between the Tx and Rx is going to be random depending on
restart.

Using the same clock will prevent it from drifting, but the initial
phase alignement is random. This is usually resolved by using training
sequence, headers, differential encoding, ...


Cheers,

Sylvain

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] IQ changing with restart

2014-02-11 Thread Martin Braun

On 11.02.2014 06:19, Sylvain Munaut wrote:

Hi,


I've done my homework on this one, crawled through the web  talked to
colleagues. If I am missing something obvious please point it out - it's not
for lack of effort on my part!


I'm not really sure what you're expecting. Of course the phase
alignement between the Tx and Rx is going to be random depending on
restart.

Using the same clock will prevent it from drifting, but the initial
phase alignement is random. This is usually resolved by using training
sequence, headers, differential encoding, ...


I had the same thought -- it looks like a phase change. This is a PSK 
signal, right? Have you looked at the constellation diagram?


MB

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] IQ changing with restart

2014-02-11 Thread George
Is it an over-the-air transmission or TX and RX are connected with a wire and 
attenuators?

-George
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George Sklivanitis
PhD Student and Research Assistant
Signals, Communications, and Networking Research Group
Department of Electrical Engineering
University at Buffalo, The State University of New York

Office: 238 Davis Hall, Buffalo, NY 14260

Web: http://www.buffalo.edu/~gsklivan

On Feb 11, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Martin Braun martin.br...@ettus.com wrote:

 On 11.02.2014 06:19, Sylvain Munaut wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've done my homework on this one, crawled through the web  talked to
 colleagues. If I am missing something obvious please point it out - it's not
 for lack of effort on my part!
 
 I'm not really sure what you're expecting. Of course the phase
 alignement between the Tx and Rx is going to be random depending on
 restart.
 
 Using the same clock will prevent it from drifting, but the initial
 phase alignement is random. This is usually resolved by using training
 sequence, headers, differential encoding, ...
 
 I had the same thought -- it looks like a phase change. This is a PSK signal, 
 right? Have you looked at the constellation diagram?
 
 MB
 
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] IQ changing with restart

2014-02-11 Thread Marcus D. Leech

On 02/11/2014 11:57 AM, Martin Braun wrote:

On 11.02.2014 06:19, Sylvain Munaut wrote:

Hi,


I've done my homework on this one, crawled through the web  talked to
colleagues. If I am missing something obvious please point it out - 
it's not

for lack of effort on my part!


I'm not really sure what you're expecting. Of course the phase
alignement between the Tx and Rx is going to be random depending on
restart.

Using the same clock will prevent it from drifting, but the initial
phase alignement is random. This is usually resolved by using training
sequence, headers, differential encoding, ...


I had the same thought -- it looks like a phase change. This is a PSK 
signal, right? Have you looked at the constellation diagram?


MB

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Neither synthesizer will start with any particular phase offset, either.



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Marcus Leech
Principal Investigator
Shirleys Bay Radio Astronomy Consortium
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