Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Important: New trunk dependency: GSL

2008-09-11 Thread Greg Troxel

  I'll be adding the GNU Scientific Library (GSL) as a new dependency
  on the trunk.  GSL is a huge numerical library that's been under
  active development for more than 10 years:

http://www.gnu.org/software/gsl

FYI this is in pkgsrc as math/gsl and it's at 1.11.



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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Important: New trunk dependency: GSL

2008-09-11 Thread Berndt Josef Wulf
On Thursday 11 September 2008 21:28:53 Greg Troxel wrote:
   I'll be adding the GNU Scientific Library (GSL) as a new dependency
   on the trunk.  GSL is a huge numerical library that's been under
   active development for more than 10 years:

 http://www.gnu.org/software/gsl

 FYI this is in pkgsrc as math/gsl and it's at 1.11.

G'day Greg,

FYI: GNU Radio currently won't built on pkgsrc as the versions of boost, wxGTK 
and py-wxWindows are too old. It also lacks py-gsl.

73, Berndt
VK5ABN


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[Discuss-gnuradio] Important: New trunk dependency: GSL

2008-09-10 Thread Eric Blossom

I'll be adding the GNU Scientific Library (GSL) as a new dependency
on the trunk.  GSL is a huge numerical library that's been under
active development for more than 10 years:

  http://www.gnu.org/software/gsl



Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu all package it.

Under Fedora the relevant packages are: gsl-devel gsl pygsl:

  $ sudo yum install gsl-devel gsl pygsl


I'm not exactly sure of the package names under Debian or Ubuntu.
Could someone who knows please let us know and update the Debian and
Ubuntu build pages on the wiki?  I'll update the Fedora page.

gsl-1.11 is the latest, but it looks like gsl-1.10 is what's widely
distributed.  1.10 should be fine.

Thanks!
Eric


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Important: New trunk dependency: GSL

2008-09-10 Thread Michael Gray

For Ubuntu LTS 8.0.4 try

sudo apt-get install gsl-bin gsl-ref-psdoc gsl-doc-pdf gsl-ref-html 
libgsl0ldbl


This will get you version 1.10-4


Eric Blossom wrote:

I'll be adding the GNU Scientific Library (GSL) as a new dependency
on the trunk.  GSL is a huge numerical library that's been under
active development for more than 10 years:

  http://www.gnu.org/software/gsl



Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu all package it.

Under Fedora the relevant packages are: gsl-devel gsl pygsl:

  $ sudo yum install gsl-devel gsl pygsl


I'm not exactly sure of the package names under Debian or Ubuntu.
Could someone who knows please let us know and update the Debian and
Ubuntu build pages on the wiki?  I'll update the Fedora page.

gsl-1.11 is the latest, but it looks like gsl-1.10 is what's widely
distributed.  1.10 should be fine.

Thanks!
Eric


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Important: New trunk dependency: GSL

2008-09-10 Thread Eric Blossom
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:09:32AM -0700, Michael Gray wrote:
 For Ubuntu LTS 8.0.4 try

 sudo apt-get install gsl-bin gsl-ref-psdoc gsl-doc-pdf gsl-ref-html 
 libgsl0ldbl

 This will get you version 1.10-4

Thanks Michael!

Eric


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Important: New trunk dependency: GSL

2008-09-10 Thread Eric Blossom
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 03:40:56PM -0400, Philip Balister wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Eric Blossom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'll be adding the GNU Scientific Library (GSL) as a new dependency
  on the trunk.  GSL is a huge numerical library that's been under
  active development for more than 10 years:
 
   http://www.gnu.org/software/gsl
 
 I've been making progress getting GNU Radio trunk running on the OMAP3
 and now you toss this my way. Fortunately, OpenEmbedded already knows
 about gsl and it builds for the beagle.
 
 But, I am still curious, what parts of GNU Radio use gsl?  Will it be
 possible to deply GNU Radio apps that do not need it? Or will gsl
 creep into the very core of GNU Radio?
 
 Philip

At this instant nothing uses it.

There are some wavelet blocks and polyphase filtering coming soon that need it.
Today's msg was the advanced warning.

If this turns out to be a pain, we could probably make it optional,
but then we'd need (even more) conditional build stuff.

Eric


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Important: New trunk dependency: GSL

2008-09-10 Thread Philip Balister
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Eric Blossom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 03:40:56PM -0400, Philip Balister wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Eric Blossom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'll be adding the GNU Scientific Library (GSL) as a new dependency
  on the trunk.  GSL is a huge numerical library that's been under
  active development for more than 10 years:
 
   http://www.gnu.org/software/gsl

 I've been making progress getting GNU Radio trunk running on the OMAP3
 and now you toss this my way. Fortunately, OpenEmbedded already knows
 about gsl and it builds for the beagle.

 But, I am still curious, what parts of GNU Radio use gsl?  Will it be
 possible to deply GNU Radio apps that do not need it? Or will gsl
 creep into the very core of GNU Radio?

 Philip

 At this instant nothing uses it.

 There are some wavelet blocks and polyphase filtering coming soon that need 
 it.
 Today's msg was the advanced warning.

Thanks for the warning. I'm not terribly unhappy with gsl, except that
for good performance on the OMAP3 I'd have to look into the guts to
add NEON specific routines and my todo list grows without limit :(

 If this turns out to be a pain, we could probably make it optional,
 but then we'd need (even more) conditional build stuff.

Have you ever thought about creating a structure to build sets of
blocks outside the main source tree? Having this structure in place
would be a big help for outside developers also.

Philip


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Important: New trunk dependency: GSL

2008-09-10 Thread Robert McGwier
In gnuradio-core,  there will be new filter bank technology introduced
that will use gsl to accomplish the debauchery of the indices in
compact readable form.  We are about to use gsl to compute discrete
wavelet transforms.  There are others but these suffice.

One could always replace the underlying routines with local ones that
are not bound to gsl.

The simple facts are that gnuradio cannot be all things to all people.
 It might come closer than almost anything else but it cannot run
without modification on all computing equipment from dspPic's to
Vertex 5's to Cell to x86_64 to OMAP3XXX !

I really like the OMAP with its ARM9, TI DSP chip and Neon SIMD math
chip and OpenGL acceleration hardware.  It is a worthy target of
effort.


Bob


On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Philip Balister
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Eric Blossom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'll be adding the GNU Scientific Library (GSL) as a new dependency
 on the trunk.  GSL is a huge numerical library that's been under
 active development for more than 10 years:

  http://www.gnu.org/software/gsl

 I've been making progress getting GNU Radio trunk running on the OMAP3
 and now you toss this my way. Fortunately, OpenEmbedded already knows
 about gsl and it builds for the beagle.

 But, I am still curious, what parts of GNU Radio use gsl?  Will it be
 possible to deply GNU Radio apps that do not need it? Or will gsl
 creep into the very core of GNU Radio?

 Philip




 Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu all package it.

 Under Fedora the relevant packages are: gsl-devel gsl pygsl:

  $ sudo yum install gsl-devel gsl pygsl


 I'm not exactly sure of the package names under Debian or Ubuntu.
 Could someone who knows please let us know and update the Debian and
 Ubuntu build pages on the wiki?  I'll update the Fedora page.

 gsl-1.11 is the latest, but it looks like gsl-1.10 is what's widely
 distributed.  1.10 should be fine.

 Thanks!
 Eric


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Important: New trunk dependency: GSL

2008-09-10 Thread Eric Blossom
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 04:07:27PM -0400, Philip Balister wrote:
 
 Have you ever thought about creating a structure to build sets of
 blocks outside the main source tree? Having this structure in place
 would be a big help for outside developers also.
 

Funny you should ask, I'm just finishing that up.
Look for it in the next day or two.

Eric


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