Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Remote Access to USRP testbed with GNU Radio

2011-10-07 Thread Robert McGwier
I believe people are answering the question but are slightly off target.

Create a group on your Linux distribution call USRP, make sure those users
you want control the USRP as users (AND NOT ROOT) are in this group. The go
read the gnuradio wiki about the other changes granting device permissions
etc.  This is how remote users gain control of the USRP locally without sudo
as well as  over SSH whether the machine is accessible over a LAN only or
the full internet.

Bob
 On Oct 6, 2011 7:15 PM, Ian Buckley ian.buck...@gmail.com wrote:

 Remember that you in fact are not required to Login to the USRP at all,
 it isn't an interactive device, more like a peripheral device to a host
 computer. Thus your remote access limitation is purely dependent on the
 remote host you utilize to run GNURadio to interface to the USRP. The main
 issue you are like to run into is using update intensive GRC graphical tools
 such as FFT via X or VNC which can be very problematic over WANs. In terms
 of the USRP itself, if the location is truly remote with no local support
 then it would be wise to utilize A USRP other than the USRP2 since this
 model requires the SDCard to be physically replaced to upgrade
 firmware+FPGA. It would also be wise to have a remote accessible PDU so you
 can power cycle the USRP if necessary.

 I've built austere lights out remote satellite ground stations that use
 USRP's with great success.

 -Ian

 On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Kunal Kandekar wrote:

 I have accessed and used a USRP over SSH before. In fact, I accessed it
 over the Internet, not just a LAN. Although I was not the one who set it up,
 as far as I know, nothing additional had to be done to enable this. I simply
 logged in as the user account under which GNU Radio had been installed. The
 machine was running Ubuntu, in case it matters.

 Kunal


 On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Guanbo Zheng gbzh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, all

 We are interesting to build up a USRP testbed which allowed the guest
 remote access to do some experiments.
 I have seen someone's youtube video that they control the USRPs to
 transmit different signals through SSH access.
 But I want to double check if it allowed guest control of USRP devices ?

 Are there any other settings I need to take care of, in order to implement
 this?

 Thanks a lot for any suggestions!

 --
 Regards,
 Guanbo

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Remote Access to USRP testbed with GNU Radio

2011-10-07 Thread Robert McGwier
http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki/UbuntuInstall

has configuring USRP support.  Following these instructions will allow users
in the USRP group to run the hardware without root access.

Bob

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Robert McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe people are answering the question but are slightly off target.

 Create a group on your Linux distribution call USRP, make sure those users
 you want control the USRP as users (AND NOT ROOT) are in this group. The go
 read the gnuradio wiki about the other changes granting device permissions
 etc.  This is how remote users gain control of the USRP locally without sudo
 as well as  over SSH whether the machine is accessible over a LAN only or
 the full internet.

 Bob
  On Oct 6, 2011 7:15 PM, Ian Buckley ian.buck...@gmail.com wrote:

 Remember that you in fact are not required to Login to the USRP at all,
 it isn't an interactive device, more like a peripheral device to a host
 computer. Thus your remote access limitation is purely dependent on the
 remote host you utilize to run GNURadio to interface to the USRP. The main
 issue you are like to run into is using update intensive GRC graphical tools
 such as FFT via X or VNC which can be very problematic over WANs. In terms
 of the USRP itself, if the location is truly remote with no local support
 then it would be wise to utilize A USRP other than the USRP2 since this
 model requires the SDCard to be physically replaced to upgrade
 firmware+FPGA. It would also be wise to have a remote accessible PDU so you
 can power cycle the USRP if necessary.

 I've built austere lights out remote satellite ground stations that use
 USRP's with great success.

 -Ian

 On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Kunal Kandekar wrote:

 I have accessed and used a USRP over SSH before. In fact, I accessed it
 over the Internet, not just a LAN. Although I was not the one who set it up,
 as far as I know, nothing additional had to be done to enable this. I simply
 logged in as the user account under which GNU Radio had been installed. The
 machine was running Ubuntu, in case it matters.

 Kunal


 On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Guanbo Zheng gbzh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, all

 We are interesting to build up a USRP testbed which allowed the guest
 remote access to do some experiments.
 I have seen someone's youtube video that they control the USRPs to
 transmit different signals through SSH access.
 But I want to double check if it allowed guest control of USRP devices ?

 Are there any other settings I need to take care of, in order to
 implement this?

 Thanks a lot for any suggestions!

 --
 Regards,
 Guanbo

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Remote Access to USRP testbed with GNU Radio

2011-10-07 Thread Marcus D. Leech

On 07/10/2011 8:53 AM, Robert McGwier wrote:


http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki/UbuntuInstall

has configuring USRP support.  Following these instructions will allow 
users in the USRP group to run the hardware without root access.


Bob

Also, the build-gnuradio script takes care of this for the calling user 
(but not any others).  I want to add that as a possible feature--perhaps
  prompt for the userids you wish to be added or something.  Or maybe 
have it add all the ordinary users.






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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Remote Access to USRP testbed with GNU Radio

2011-10-07 Thread Guanbo Zheng
Thanks a lot for all the replys!
Sorry that I forgot to mention I am using USRP2.

I think the link is for USRP which create a usrp group for non root control.

Best,
Guanbo

On Oct 7, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Robert McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe people are answering the question but are slightly off target.
 
 Create a group on your Linux distribution call USRP, make sure those users 
 you want control the USRP as users (AND NOT ROOT) are in this group. The go 
 read the gnuradio wiki about the other changes granting device permissions 
 etc.  This is how remote users gain control of the USRP locally without sudo 
 as well as  over SSH whether the machine is accessible over a LAN only or the 
 full internet.
 
 Bob
 On Oct 6, 2011 7:15 PM, Ian Buckley ian.buck...@gmail.com wrote:
 Remember that you in fact are not required to Login to the USRP at all, it 
 isn't an interactive device, more like a peripheral device to a host 
 computer. Thus your remote access limitation is purely dependent on the 
 remote host you utilize to run GNURadio to interface to the USRP. The main 
 issue you are like to run into is using update intensive GRC graphical tools 
 such as FFT via X or VNC which can be very problematic over WANs. In terms of 
 the USRP itself, if the location is truly remote with no local support then 
 it would be wise to utilize A USRP other than the USRP2 since this model 
 requires the SDCard to be physically replaced to upgrade firmware+FPGA. It 
 would also be wise to have a remote accessible PDU so you can power cycle the 
 USRP if necessary.
 
 I've built austere lights out remote satellite ground stations that use 
 USRP's with great success.
 
 -Ian
 
 On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Kunal Kandekar wrote:
 
 I have accessed and used a USRP over SSH before. In fact, I accessed it over 
 the Internet, not just a LAN. Although I was not the one who set it up, as 
 far as I know, nothing additional had to be done to enable this. I simply 
 logged in as the user account under which GNU Radio had been installed. The 
 machine was running Ubuntu, in case it matters.
 
 Kunal
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Guanbo Zheng gbzh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, all
 
 We are interesting to build up a USRP testbed which allowed the guest remote 
 access to do some experiments.
 I have seen someone's youtube video that they control the USRPs to transmit 
 different signals through SSH access. 
 But I want to double check if it allowed guest control of USRP devices ?
 
 Are there any other settings I need to take care of, in order to implement 
 this?
 
 Thanks a lot for any suggestions!
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 Guanbo
 
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[Discuss-gnuradio] Remote Access to USRP testbed with GNU Radio

2011-10-06 Thread Guanbo Zheng
Hi, all

We are interesting to build up a USRP testbed which allowed the guest remote
access to do some experiments.
I have seen someone's youtube video that they control the USRPs to transmit
different signals through SSH access.
But I want to double check if it allowed guest control of USRP devices ?

Are there any other settings I need to take care of, in order to implement
this?

Thanks a lot for any suggestions!

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Remote Access to USRP testbed with GNU Radio

2011-10-06 Thread Kunal Kandekar
I have accessed and used a USRP over SSH before. In fact, I accessed it over
the Internet, not just a LAN. Although I was not the one who set it up, as
far as I know, nothing additional had to be done to enable this. I simply
logged in as the user account under which GNU Radio had been installed. The
machine was running Ubuntu, in case it matters.

Kunal


On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Guanbo Zheng gbzh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, all

 We are interesting to build up a USRP testbed which allowed the guest
 remote access to do some experiments.
 I have seen someone's youtube video that they control the USRPs to transmit
 different signals through SSH access.
 But I want to double check if it allowed guest control of USRP devices ?

 Are there any other settings I need to take care of, in order to implement
 this?

 Thanks a lot for any suggestions!

 --
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Remote Access to USRP testbed with GNU Radio

2011-10-06 Thread Ian Buckley
Remember that you in fact are not required to Login to the USRP at all, it 
isn't an interactive device, more like a peripheral device to a host computer. 
Thus your remote access limitation is purely dependent on the remote host you 
utilize to run GNURadio to interface to the USRP. The main issue you are like 
to run into is using update intensive GRC graphical tools such as FFT via X or 
VNC which can be very problematic over WANs. In terms of the USRP itself, if 
the location is truly remote with no local support then it would be wise to 
utilize A USRP other than the USRP2 since this model requires the SDCard to be 
physically replaced to upgrade firmware+FPGA. It would also be wise to have a 
remote accessible PDU so you can power cycle the USRP if necessary.

I've built austere lights out remote satellite ground stations that use 
USRP's with great success.

-Ian

On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Kunal Kandekar wrote:

 I have accessed and used a USRP over SSH before. In fact, I accessed it over 
 the Internet, not just a LAN. Although I was not the one who set it up, as 
 far as I know, nothing additional had to be done to enable this. I simply 
 logged in as the user account under which GNU Radio had been installed. The 
 machine was running Ubuntu, in case it matters.
 
 Kunal
 
 
 On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Guanbo Zheng gbzh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, all
 
 We are interesting to build up a USRP testbed which allowed the guest remote 
 access to do some experiments.
 I have seen someone's youtube video that they control the USRPs to transmit 
 different signals through SSH access. 
 But I want to double check if it allowed guest control of USRP devices ?
 
 Are there any other settings I need to take care of, in order to implement 
 this?
 
 Thanks a lot for any suggestions!
 
 -- 
 Regards,
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