Re: FOSDEM Arrangements
Am 11.12.2010 um 19:27 schrieb Fred Kiefer: Am 11.12.2010 19:05, schrieb Nicolas Roard: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:17 AM, David Chisnall thera...@sucs.org wrote: Getting in on Friday morning would require me to leave in the middle of the night, so I probably won't do that. I could probably get there around 4pm, so time for a bit of hacking, an early dinner, and then a lot of beer. They pay for three nights of hotel, so I might stay Sunday night and head back on Monday, if other people are going to be hanging around on Sunday evening. I think I have to go to the speakers' dinner on Saturday night, so I can't join in a GNUstep meal (unless you all want to come to the dinner?), but I could meet people for hacking / more beer afterwards. I should arrive saturday morning, I'll leave monday morning, so sunday hacking works :) I think I will arrive Friday afternoon, so we could have a little hacking before the beer event. Not sure whether I will be able to stay until Monday though. I will also arrive in Friday afternoon and leave on SUnday night. But I am not sure if I will attend the Beer event (again). It is nice there and the beer is good, but it is impossible to meet people you don't already know or discuss anything useful... Regarding a hacking session I think it is a good idea, but I can't contribute much unless Riccardo is also there. What I would like to attend is a UIKit/iOS session in the Devroom. @David: just put it into the Wiki (and getting an account is no more difficult as using LLVM :). BR, Nikolaus ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: FOSDEM Arrangements
On 12 Dec 2010, at 14:59, Niels Grewe wrote: Hi, On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 05:17:08PM +, David Chisnall wrote: Getting in on Friday morning would require me to leave in the middle of the night, so I probably won't do that. I could probably get there around 4pm, so time for a bit of hacking, an early dinner, and then a lot of beer. They pay for three nights of hotel, so I might stay Sunday night and head back on Monday, if other people are going to be hanging around on Sunday evening. I think I have to go to the speakers' dinner on Saturday night, so I can't join in a GNUstep meal (unless you all want to come to the dinner?), but I could meet people for hacking / more beer afterwards. I will be arriving on Friday afternoon and a little gettogether before the beer event would be nice (I had a hard time finding anybody last time…) Since there is no chance that I can get back to where I live on Sunday, I'd probably be leaving Monday morning. I think I'll try to do the same. Arrive late afternoon on Friday, leave Monday morning. How long I spend at the beer event will largely depend on whether I have to give a talk on Saturday morning... BTW: What did become of the plan to get a discounted group booking at a hotel? It would be a good idea. I think I have to go to whichever hotel the organisers put me in, so hopefully I can find out what that is, and maybe try to find one nearby for everyone else. If we can get a list of people who are definitely going, then we can try contacting some hotels and see if they want to offer a discount. David -- Sent from my brain ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: FOSDEM Arrangements
Le 12 déc. 2010 à 16:26, David Chisnall a écrit : On 12 Dec 2010, at 14:59, Niels Grewe wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 05:17:08PM +, David Chisnall wrote: Getting in on Friday morning would require me to leave in the middle of the night, so I probably won't do that. I could probably get there around 4pm, so time for a bit of hacking, an early dinner, and then a lot of beer. They pay for three nights of hotel, so I might stay Sunday night and head back on Monday, if other people are going to be hanging around on Sunday evening. I think I have to go to the speakers' dinner on Saturday night, so I can't join in a GNUstep meal (unless you all want to come to the dinner?), but I could meet people for hacking / more beer afterwards. I will be arriving on Friday afternoon and a little gettogether before the beer event would be nice (I had a hard time finding anybody last time…) Since there is no chance that I can get back to where I live on Sunday, I'd probably be leaving Monday morning. I think I'll try to do the same. Arrive late afternoon on Friday, leave Monday morning. I'll arrive on Fridary afternoon and leave Monday too. How long I spend at the beer event will largely depend on whether I have to give a talk on Saturday morning... I'm tempted by a shorter beer event. We could have our own beer event possibly too. I wouldn't mind to go to a quieter or less crowded place. BTW: What did become of the plan to get a discounted group booking at a hotel? It would be a good idea. I think I have to go to whichever hotel the organisers put me in, so hopefully I can find out what that is, and maybe try to find one nearby for everyone else. If we can get a list of people who are definitely going, then we can try contacting some hotels and see if they want to offer a discount. I added myself to the FOSDEM page on the wiki. For the talks, I submitted two proposals: Étoilé Progresses and EtoileUI Otherwise I'd be interested to hear talks about: - CoreBase and CoreGraphics/Opal in GNUstep - GNUstep Progresses and Roadmap - DBusKit - EtoileText (… I'm especially curious about the possibility to leverage OMeta to write the tree transform rules) - LanguageKit Progresses Cheers, Quentin. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: FOSDEM Arrangements
On 12 Dec 2010, at 22:05, Quentin Mathé wrote: Le 12 déc. 2010 à 16:26, David Chisnall a écrit : How long I spend at the beer event will largely depend on whether I have to give a talk on Saturday morning... I'm tempted by a shorter beer event. We could have our own beer event possibly too. I wouldn't mind to go to a quieter or less crowded place. Well, Delirium did have a good selection of beer... The walk back across freezing-cold Brussels at 6am wasn't so fun, but watching Nicolas have a conversation with a singing finger puppet made up for it. I wouldn't mind somewhere a bit quieter though - I remember shouting at Fred a lot and just getting shrugs and blank stares in reply... Maybe if we get there a bit earlier this year we can have a few beers there and then retire to somewhere closer to the hotel before the trains stop running? BTW: What did become of the plan to get a discounted group booking at a hotel? It would be a good idea. I think I have to go to whichever hotel the organisers put me in, so hopefully I can find out what that is, and maybe try to find one nearby for everyone else. If we can get a list of people who are definitely going, then we can try contacting some hotels and see if they want to offer a discount. I added myself to the FOSDEM page on the wiki. For the talks, I submitted two proposals: Étoilé Progresses and EtoileUI I'd like to hear about Étoilé progress... Otherwise I'd be interested to hear talks about: - CoreBase and CoreGraphics/Opal in GNUstep I think Stef, Gregory, and Eric are the best people to talk about this, and I'm not sure if any of them are going to be there (Gregory and Eric aren't, not sure about Stef - Stef, I actually have no idea which continent you're on...). - GNUstep Progresses and Roadmap - DBusKit I poked DBUSKit a bit and it definitely looks like a thing that's worth advertising and some demos. If Niels doesn't want to give a long talk, maybe we could have a few 'system integration' lightning talks and have other people talk about the UXTheme / GNOME Theme stuff and anything else of relevance? - EtoileText (… I'm especially curious about the possibility to leverage OMeta to write the tree transform rules) - LanguageKit Progresses I could talk about either of these. Most of the changes in LanguageKit since last year have been polishing off rough edges and a few optimisations (most of these can also apply to Objective-C, but because it's so hard to drive them from GNUstep Make we have the amusing situation that Smalltalk is a lot faster than Objective-C for some things). EtoileText might be of interest to other people. For anyone who hasn't been following the Étoilé blog, I'm using it to generate the ePub version of my upcoming book from LaTeX sources, complete with clang-driven syntax highlighting for the code samples (which looks much nicer than the LaTeX listings package, since it can distinguish typedefs, macros, and so on). David -- Sent from my STANTEC-ZEBRA ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: FOSDEM Arrangements
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 5:42 PM, David Chisnall thera...@sucs.org wrote: Otherwise I'd be interested to hear talks about: - CoreBase and CoreGraphics/Opal in GNUstep I think Stef, Gregory, and Eric are the best people to talk about this, and I'm not sure if any of them are going to be there (Gregory and Eric aren't, not sure about Stef - Stef, I actually have no idea which continent you're on...). I'm in the US. I'd like to make it out there one year but, as you can imagine, it would be a real vacation for me. A quick status of CoreBase would be that it's on hold until further notice. Most of my time gets eaten up by grad school. And since I decided to work on NSLocale, the little time I do find is put into that, which has driven me to start work on NSCalendar and updating NSNumberFormatter and NSDateFormatter. Stef ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep