Re: GDL and Renaissance?
On 2013-08-12 06:41:40 -0600 David Chisnall thera...@sucs.org wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm currently going through and updating the GNUstep ports. Neither the latest release of GDL2 nor Renaissance build with the latest version of -base. Are there plans to update these, or should I just cull them? David Which error get you with Renaissance? It works for me. The problem with GDL2 is (I think) caused by the changes in gnustep-make. But no idea about how solve this. Germán. ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: Comments on the website from people on twitter...
On 9 Aug 2013, at 09:55, Riccardo Mottola riccardo.mott...@libero.it wrote: I put in our developer and people list a link to their respective blog. If I missed somebody, please tell! http://www.gnustep.org/developers/whoiswho.html (David, you were completely missing, if you want a better description and want a link to one of your blogs, please just send me a private email). We're also missing the donors information, in particular Tomaz and Brilliant Service are not mentioned for their support of the DevMeeting. David -- Sent from my Apple II ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Ubuntu and Debian packages / 2013-08-14
Hi all,
I updated packages for quantal, precise and wheezy, for both i386 and
amd64. They're built with clang from their respective distributions and
with libobjc2 from svn.
I'm still having problems with raring and sid but for those interested
wheezy packages seem to work under sid.
Packages list :
* libobjc2 (packaged as libobjcgs)
* gnustep-{make,base,gui,back} and related dev packages
* easydiff
* edenmath
* pantomime
* gnumail
* gorm
* projectcenter
* gworkspace
* gnustep-examples
* laternamagica
* lusernet
* notebook
* poe
* terminal
* textedit
* systempreferences
* vindaloo (with iconkit and popplerkit from Etoile)
* waiho
* renaissance
* zipper
* helpviewer
* cynthiune
* dbuskit
* addressmanager
* agenda
* fisicalab
* corebase
* opal
* quartzcore
* performance
* rsskit
* grr
* price
Everything is under the following url :
http://coyote.octets.fr/pub/gnustep/packages/
For example, for precise x86 you can add to sources.list :
deb http://coyote.octets.fr/pub/gnustep/packages/precise/i386/ ./
Please let me know if you find this useful, if a package is broken, if
you would like to add another package to the list etc.
Thanks,
Philippe
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Re: Comments on the website from people on twitter...
On Thursday, August 8, 2013 10:19:26 PM UTC-4, Gregory Casamento wrote: Also, regarding the Dream of GNUstep if you could tell me what everyone else is dreaming it would be helpful. Obviously all of us on GNUstep are not dreaming the same thing everyone else seems to be. I want a replacement for Macromedia Freehand / Altsys Virtuoso which doesn't leave me beholden to Adobe. That's a PostScript-oriented vector-drawing program w/ an elegant interface. Bonus if it supports creating vector brushes like Creaturehouse Expression. Even better if it'd support METAPOST and allow one to switch between drawing and coding. I want a replacement for Notebook.app --- bonus if it supports inking and bitmap editing / sketching. I want a replacement for Lotus Improv which has undo and the nice 3D graphs from Informix WingZ. I want TeXshop (which is my replacement for TeXview.app) to ``just compile''. I want LaTeXiT.app (which affords the TeX eq - eps Service from TeXview.app) to ``just compile''. I want the programming tools to be so great that someone is able to easily create a GNUstep front-end for LyX. I want Services to work _everywhere_ and to be able to display a .pdf (or .eps) and be confident it'll print (I guess Display GhostScript is gone? I find that aspect of the project confusing). I need to assemble a system which works on a portable machine w/ a Wacom digitizer (supporting pressure input would be nice) and daylight-viewable display which can replace my current system (a Fujitsu Stylistic ST-4121 running Windows XP Tablet PC edition, Autodesk Sketchbook, FutureWave SmartSketch, Macromedia FreeHand, WinTeXshell, EverNote, Lotus Improv, c.). William ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Missing applications
This may not be the sort of functionality that the GS devs are considering, but following recent discussions, I thought I would ask... GNUstep contains most of the components needed to build up a complete desktop Linux distribution: window manager, desktop, launcher, terminal, calculator, plain text and rich text editors, image viewers, etc. The main 3 things missing, it seems to me, are: * an office suite * a web browser * a chat program (cf. Pidgin, not IRC) Ubuntu has taken an interesting direction in providing Unity-integrated versions of such apps: they have written plugins for the off-the-shelf LibreOffice and Firefox programs to cause them to display Unity menu bars. Whereas I realise it would not aid API compatibility, I wondered if it might be viable to examine these plugins and rewrite them to provide GNUstep-style menus etc. so that they integrated with the rest of the GNUstep desktop? -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: GNUstep Kickstarter Project
Hi, On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 05:23:07 +0200, Abhi Beckert abh...@abhibeckert.com wrote: WebKit is only used for things like displaying MySQL documentation for the selected source code in the custom query pane. I wasn't aware we were using core data at all, I'm sure it's nothing important. Sequel Pro ran on OS X 10.1 when I first worked on the project, and had all of the core functionality then. Every feature added since could be cut from a GNUStep build. We could start testing the version that did run on 10.1. Also, if WebKit is not a core functionality, I'd just install SWK (Small WebKit), it should allow building. If not and it is missing certain methods, report, maybe we can add them with Nikolaus, at least as stubs. SWK will also display simple documentation. It is for example capable of displaying usably GNUstep's documentation, including frames! Riccardo ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: Comments on the website from people on twitter...
Hi William, your wants are far more than just some medium-term GNUstep goals. Your desires need a good support of Operating System to. Your desires express, at the end, stopping to be dependent of current proprietary applications and operating systems because they stopped existence or they went into a direction of development. You are, I think, touching the heart of existence of Open Source. I think that we seek common goals and goals apparently shared with others, but often not told because developers speak up most often. A working environment of your taste, which works reliably and supports features you need. Everybody wants then his own set of applications and has different hardware necessities. I want a replacement for Macromedia Freehand / Altsys Virtuoso which doesn't leave me beholden to Adobe. That's a PostScript-oriented vector-drawing program w/ an elegant interface. Bonus if it supports creating vector brushes like Creaturehouse Expression. Even better if it'd support METAPOST and allow one to switch between drawing and coding. The only think going into that direction is Graphos which will probably never fully support your needs, you need a new more advanced project or perhaps a fork or port of some other existing application. However, Graphos may still prove useful for developing and testing stuff you need to support, read further below. I want a replacement for Lotus Improv which has undo and the nice 3D graphs from Informix WingZ. We have Flexisheet in GAP. It needs to be improved, debugged, completed. Only little has been done, except getting it open, imported and cleaned enough to compile and start. I want Services to work _everywhere_ and to be able to display a .pdf (or .eps) and be confident it'll print (I guess Display GhostScript is gone? I find that aspect of the project confusing). Display post-script is gone as a backend, its integration with X11 was never good, other may have more details on that, but printing should print exactly the way you see it, as on Mac. Right thanks to Graphos, there has been quite some improvement done on this sector, but there is still a lot to do regarding margins and pagination. GSPdf is GNUstep's front-end to ghostscript, so it will display PS files, essentially like gv but with a nice interface. If you install it, you can use it to view easily the PS files generated from our backend. Draw something in graphos, print, see and put the windows side-by-side. Except margins I see that colors, paths, shapes and text get printed as I expect them. I need to assemble a system which works on a portable machine w/ a Wacom digitizer (supporting pressure input would be nice) and daylight-viewable display which can replace my current system (a Fujitsu Stylistic ST-4121 running Windows XP Tablet PC edition, Autodesk Sketchbook, FutureWave SmartSketch, Macromedia FreeHand, WinTeXshell, EverNote, Lotus Improv, c.). This needs support for the hardware you need on the operating system, as a first thing. Afterwards all your nice apps you want on top of it. I want about the same on other notebooks, so not to depend on Apple, my Workspace so not to have to endure the absurd Metro interface or 10.8 (and who knows next what comes in its iPhonization). I need more photographic oriented tools, a reliable email client, the standard tools of a desktop (finder, terminal, preferences and configuration), stuff like FTP. As you may know I work on many of them, thus I too need better development tools. All this is of course a long, long road! Tablet support on free OSs is at least spotty and also quite hard to configure sometimes. To test the Graphos interface with a my Tablet, I run windows and an X server on windows and export display to it, because that way support is much better and consistent ;) On Gentoo it works quite well for me - except pressure support, which no GS app would support anyway currently, I used GIMP as a test. Riccardo ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
Re: error building gui
On 08/14/2013 10:10 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote: Hi, with the latest gui, when building, I get this error: Compiling file NSAlert.m ... In file included from ../Headers/Additions/GNUstepGUI/GMAppKit.h:54:0, from NSAlert.m:65: ../Headers/AppKit/NSSavePanel.h:85:1: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before ')' token ../Headers/AppKit/NSSavePanel.h:85:1: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union [enabled by default] GCC is choking on: DEFINE_BLOCK_TYPE(GSSavePanelCompletionHandler, void, NSInteger); I suppose this is the macro defined in GSBlocks.h perhaps this macro is not working properly? since which version GCC has block support? Riccardo Hi, GCC doesn't have blocks support, that's why these macros exist. I've fixed GSBlocks.h, both the macro itself and the version checking that lead to the use of that legacy macro. Please let me know if it works for you now. -- Luboš Doležel ___ Discuss-gnustep mailing list Discuss-gnustep@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
