RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-21 Thread Charlie Arehart
Sure, and some of the other tools have no such limits, either. Don't get me 
wrong: I'm
not knocking at all the tool you're pointing out. I'm really just clarifying 
for folks
that yes, there are different tools and some have no limits. That said, the 
reason I
recommend the commercial one is just that it's packaged well, has a commercially
supported base product, etc.  

For instance, sometimes the free ones can hammer a given URL, or even a set, 
but when
it comes to making them vary per request, then they get harder to use. That's a
feature in the Paessler tool,  so worth exploring, even if it's limited in 
users. Just
different strokes for different folks. :-)

 

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Ross
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:55 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

 

I meant to point out that siege's max concurrent users are only limited to the 
amount
of bandwidth/cpu power that you have to produce the desired amount of concurrent
connections.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Charlie Arehart  wrote:

I've now added Siege to the list, Steve. Thanks for another.  To be clear, 
again,
there are several other free solutions in my list that can "test basic 
concurrency",
too, and I clarify which are free/commercial, downloaded or hosted, and what 
platforms
are supported.

/charlie

 




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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-21 Thread Szwedo . Ed
Thanks Steve, but it looks like Siege is not an option.

From http://www.joedog.org/index/siege-home:

PLATFORM SUPPORT
Siege was written on GNU/Linux and has been successfully ported to AIX,
BSD, HP-UX and Solaris. It should compile on most System V UNIX variants
and on most newer BSD systems. Because Siege relies on POSIX.1b features
not supported by Microsoft, it will not run on Windows. Of course you
can use Siege to test a Windows HTTP server.

 

 

 

 

 


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From:   Steve Ross 
To: "discussion@acfug.org" 
Cc: "" 
Date:   10/21/2010 12:30 PM
Subject:    Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server
Sent by:ad...@acfug.org



If you want to test basic concurrency there is a free opensource tool
called "siege". Not sure if it is available in windows but  works great
in Linux/unix.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:20 PM, "Charlie Arehart" 
wrote:



  Thanks for that, Shawn. :-) (The reference to the CF411, I mean.)
  I’ll admit I don’t really describe or review the tools I list
  there (just way too many).  I do list both free and commercial,
  and installed and hosted solutions, for load testing.

  But I will say that to your need, Ed, you may want to consider the
  Paessler Web Server Stress tool, which does offer the “recording”
  feature. Many of the tools do, including free ones. But the
  Paessler tool, while commercial, does have a free version for 10
  users sending each no sooner than every 10 seconds. Admittedly,
  that’s not “a lot of load”, but that can send be one request per
  second over the 10 users, so for many that’s better than doing
  none at all.





  /charlie





  From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of shawn
  gorrell
  Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:53 PM
  To: discussion@acfug.org
  Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server





  For question 1, refer to Charlie's CF411. It is the best list of
  tools that you can find in one place, and he can typically discuss
  any of them (at length;).








  From: "szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov" 
  To: discussion@acfug.org
  Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 2:48:40 PM
  Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server


  1. Can anyone recommend load testing software for ColdFusion?
  We're
  running CF 8 on a Windows box.  My quick search yielded
  "OpenDemand for
  Adobe ColdFusion MX".  What I like about this product is that it
  captures and replays user interactions automatically.  So we
  should be
  able to crank out scenarios involving our actual applications.

  2.  No one in our group is a dedicated ColdFusion administrator.
  I'm
  looking at a description of a Fig Leaf Software Training course
  called
  Administrating ColdFusion 9.  The description of the course looks
  great.
  Anyone have any experience with Fig Leaf Software CF admin
  training?

  Thanks,

  ed

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  Web Development Team Lead
  ECS Team - ITS-EPA II Contractor

  109 TW Alexander Drive, Building NCC, Mail Drop N176-05, Research
  Triangle Park, NC 27711
  Information Technology Infrastructure Solutions | Office:
  (919)541-3955
  | Fax: (919)541-3641 | szwedo...@epa.gov | www.ecs-federal.com



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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-21 Thread Szwedo . Ed
Thanks for the info Charlie!  I will check it out.

ed

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From:   "Charlie Arehart" 
To: 
Date:   10/21/2010 12:24 PM
Subject:    RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server
Sent by:ad...@acfug.org



Thanks for that, Shawn. :-) (The reference to the CF411, I mean.) I’ll
admit I don’t really describe or review the tools I list there (just way
too many).  I do list both free and commercial, and installed and hosted
solutions, for load testing.

But I will say that to your need, Ed, you may want to consider the
Paessler Web Server Stress tool, which does offer the “recording”
feature. Many of the tools do, including free ones. But the Paessler
tool, while commercial, does have a free version for 10 users sending
each no sooner than every 10 seconds. Admittedly, that’s not “a lot of
load”, but that can send be one request per second over the 10 users, so
for many that’s better than doing none at all.

/charlie

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of shawn
gorrell
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:53 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

For question 1, refer to Charlie's CF411. It is the best list of tools
that you can find in one place, and he can typically discuss any of them
(at length;).


From: "szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov" 
To: discussion@acfug.org
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 2:48:40 PM
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server


1. Can anyone recommend load testing software for ColdFusion? We're
running CF 8 on a Windows box.  My quick search yielded "OpenDemand for
Adobe ColdFusion MX".  What I like about this product is that it
captures and replays user interactions automatically.  So we should be
able to crank out scenarios involving our actual applications.

2.  No one in our group is a dedicated ColdFusion administrator.  I'm
looking at a description of a Fig Leaf Software Training course called
Administrating ColdFusion 9.  The description of the course looks great.
Anyone have any experience with Fig Leaf Software CF admin training?

Thanks,

ed

__
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Web Development Team Lead
ECS Team - ITS-EPA II Contractor

109 TW Alexander Drive, Building NCC, Mail Drop N176-05, Research
Triangle Park, NC 27711
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-21 Thread Steve Ross
I meant to point out that siege's max concurrent users are only limited to
the amount of bandwidth/cpu power that you have to produce the desired
amount of concurrent connections.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Charlie Arehart wrote:

>  I’ve now added Siege to the list, Steve. Thanks for another.  To be
> clear, again, there are several other free solutions in my list that can
> “test basic concurrency”, too, and I clarify which are free/commercial,
> downloaded or hosted, and what platforms are supported.
>
> /charlie
>
>
>
> *From:* ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Ross
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:29 PM
> *To:* discussion@acfug.org
> *Cc:* 
>
> *Subject:* Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server
>
>
>
> If you want to test basic concurrency there is a free opensource tool
> called "siege". Not sure if it is available in windows but  works great in
> Linux/unix.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:20 PM, "Charlie Arehart" 
> wrote:
>
>  Thanks for that, Shawn. :-) (The reference to the CF411, I mean.) I’ll
> admit I don’t really describe or review the tools I list there (just way too
> many).  I do list both free and commercial, and installed and hosted
> solutions, for load testing.
>
> But I will say that to your need, Ed, you may want to consider the Paessler
> Web Server Stress tool, which does offer the “recording” feature. Many of
> the tools do, including free ones. But the Paessler tool, while commercial,
> does have a free version for 10 users sending each no sooner than every 10
> seconds. Admittedly, that’s not “a lot of load”, but that can send be one
> request per second over the 10 users, so for many that’s better than doing
> none at all.
>
> /charlie
>
>
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-21 Thread Charlie Arehart
I’ve now added Siege to the list, Steve. Thanks for another.  To be clear, 
again, there are several other free solutions in my list that can “test basic 
concurrency”, too, and I clarify which are free/commercial, downloaded or 
hosted, and what platforms are supported.

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Ross
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:29 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

 

If you want to test basic concurrency there is a free opensource tool called 
"siege". Not sure if it is available in windows but  works great in Linux/unix. 

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:20 PM, "Charlie Arehart"  wrote:

Thanks for that, Shawn. :-) (The reference to the CF411, I mean.) I’ll admit I 
don’t really describe or review the tools I list there (just way too many).  I 
do list both free and commercial, and installed and hosted solutions, for load 
testing.

But I will say that to your need, Ed, you may want to consider the Paessler Web 
Server Stress tool, which does offer the “recording” feature. Many of the tools 
do, including free ones. But the Paessler tool, while commercial, does have a 
free version for 10 users sending each no sooner than every 10 seconds. 
Admittedly, that’s not “a lot of load”, but that can send be one request per 
second over the 10 users, so for many that’s better than doing none at all. 

/charlie

 




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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-21 Thread Steve Ross
If you want to test basic concurrency there is a free opensource tool called 
"siege". Not sure if it is available in windows but  works great in Linux/unix. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2010, at 12:20 PM, "Charlie Arehart"  wrote:

> Thanks for that, Shawn. :-) (The reference to the CF411, I mean.) I’ll admit 
> I don’t really describe or review the tools I list there (just way too many). 
>  I do list both free and commercial, and installed and hosted solutions, for 
> load testing.
> 
> But I will say that to your need, Ed, you may want to consider the Paessler 
> Web Server Stress tool, which does offer the “recording” feature. Many of the 
> tools do, including free ones. But the Paessler tool, while commercial, does 
> have a free version for 10 users sending each no sooner than every 10 
> seconds. Admittedly, that’s not “a lot of load”, but that can send be one 
> request per second over the 10 users, so for many that’s better than doing 
> none at all.
> 
>  
> 
> /charlie
> 
>  
> 
> From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of shawn gorrell
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:53 PM
> To: discussion@acfug.org
> Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server
> 
>  
> 
> For question 1, refer to Charlie's CF411. It is the best list of tools that 
> you can find in one place, and he can typically discuss any of them (at 
> length;).
> 
>  
> 
> From: "szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov" 
> To: discussion@acfug.org
> Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 2:48:40 PM
> Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server
> 
> 
> 1. Can anyone recommend load testing software for ColdFusion? We're
> running CF 8 on a Windows box.  My quick search yielded "OpenDemand for
> Adobe ColdFusion MX".  What I like about this product is that it
> captures and replays user interactions automatically.  So we should be
> able to crank out scenarios involving our actual applications.
> 
> 2.  No one in our group is a dedicated ColdFusion administrator.  I'm
> looking at a description of a Fig Leaf Software Training course called
> Administrating ColdFusion 9.  The description of the course looks great.
> Anyone have any experience with Fig Leaf Software CF admin training?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ed
> 
> __
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> 
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> Triangle Park, NC 27711
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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-21 Thread Charlie Arehart
Holy smokes, someone get the camera. I think we just had a sighting of bigfoot. 
:-)

Adam, wow, dude, long time no talk (here on the list). Great to know you guys 
may be
lurking. :-)

 

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of Adam Churvis
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 7:02 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

 

Ed,

 

Load testing software is just a tool; effective load test design and load 
testing
require experience in the craft.  

 

We can either come in and analyze the problem, design the testing regimen, 
setup your
team with the right testing and analysis tools, and then train your team how to
operate and maintain everything, or you can outsource your load testing project 
to us.

 

Call me if you have any questions, or if we can be of service to you.

 

Respectfully,

 

Adam Phillip Churvis

President

Productivity Enhancement




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RE: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-21 Thread Charlie Arehart
Thanks for that, Shawn. :-) (The reference to the CF411, I mean.) I'll admit I 
don't
really describe or review the tools I list there (just way too many).  I do 
list both
free and commercial, and installed and hosted solutions, for load testing.

But I will say that to your need, Ed, you may want to consider the Paessler Web 
Server
Stress tool, which does offer the "recording" feature. Many of the tools do, 
including
free ones. But the Paessler tool, while commercial, does have a free version 
for 10
users sending each no sooner than every 10 seconds. Admittedly, that's not "a 
lot of
load", but that can send be one request per second over the 10 users, so for 
many
that's better than doing none at all. 

 

/charlie

 

From: ad...@acfug.org [mailto:ad...@acfug.org] On Behalf Of shawn gorrell
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:53 PM
To: discussion@acfug.org
Subject: Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

 

For question 1, refer to Charlie's CF411. It is the best list of tools that you 
can
find in one place, and he can typically discuss any of them (at length;).

 

  _  

From: "szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov" 
To: discussion@acfug.org
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 2:48:40 PM
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server


1. Can anyone recommend load testing software for ColdFusion? We're
running CF 8 on a Windows box.  My quick search yielded "OpenDemand for
Adobe ColdFusion MX".  What I like about this product is that it
captures and replays user interactions automatically.  So we should be
able to crank out scenarios involving our actual applications.

2.  No one in our group is a dedicated ColdFusion administrator.  I'm
looking at a description of a Fig Leaf Software Training course called
Administrating ColdFusion 9.  The description of the course looks great.
Anyone have any experience with Fig Leaf Software CF admin training?

Thanks,

ed

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Web Development Team Lead
ECS Team - ITS-EPA II Contractor

109 TW Alexander Drive, Building NCC, Mail Drop N176-05, Research
Triangle Park, NC 27711
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| Fax: (919)541-3641 | szwedo...@epa.gov | www.ecs-federal.com



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-21 Thread Szwedo . Ed
Thank you Adam.  I'll be discussing this option with management and I
will get back to you.


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From:   Adam Churvis 
To: discussion@acfug.org
Date:   10/20/2010 07:03 PM
Subject:Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server
Sent by:ad...@acfug.org



Ed,

Load testing software is just a tool; effective load test design and
load testing require experience in the craft.

We can either come in and analyze the problem, design the testing
regimen, setup your team with the right testing and analysis tools, and
then train your team how to operate and maintain everything, or you can
outsource your load testing project to us.

Call me if you have any questions, or if we can be of service to you.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
President
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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-20 Thread Adam Churvis
...And it would certainly help if I included our telephone number (haven't
setup my sig yet!)

770-446-8866. :)


Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-20 Thread Adam Churvis
Ed,

Load testing software is just a tool; effective load test design and load
testing require experience in the craft.

We can either come in and analyze the problem, design the testing regimen,
setup your team with the right testing and analysis tools, and then train
your team how to operate and maintain everything, or you can outsource your
load testing project to us.

Call me if you have any questions, or if we can be of service to you.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
President
Productivity Enhancement


Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-20 Thread Szwedo . Ed
Thanks, I'm there now.

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From:   shawn gorrell 
To: discussion@acfug.org
Date:   10/20/2010 02:54 PM
Subject:Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server
Sent by:ad...@acfug.org



For question 1, refer to Charlie's CF411. It is the best list of tools
that you can find in one place, and he can typically discuss any of them
(at length;).

From: "szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov" 
To: discussion@acfug.org
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 2:48:40 PM
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server


1. Can anyone recommend load testing software for ColdFusion? We're
running CF 8 on a Windows box.  My quick search yielded "OpenDemand for
Adobe ColdFusion MX".  What I like about this product is that it
captures and replays user interactions automatically.  So we should be
able to crank out scenarios involving our actual applications.

2.  No one in our group is a dedicated ColdFusion administrator.  I'm
looking at a description of a Fig Leaf Software Training course called
Administrating ColdFusion 9.  The description of the course looks great.
Anyone have any experience with Fig Leaf Software CF admin training?

Thanks,

ed

__
Ed Szwedo
Web Development Team Lead
ECS Team - ITS-EPA II Contractor

109 TW Alexander Drive, Building NCC, Mail Drop N176-05, Research
Triangle Park, NC 27711
Information Technology Infrastructure Solutions | Office: (919)541-3955
| Fax: (919)541-3641 | szwedo...@epa.gov | www.ecs-federal.com



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Re: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-20 Thread shawn gorrell
For question 1, refer to Charlie's CF411. It is the best list of tools that you 
can find in one place, and he can typically discuss any of them (at length;).





From: "szwedo...@epamail.epa.gov" 
To: discussion@acfug.org
Sent: Wed, October 20, 2010 2:48:40 PM
Subject: [ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server


1. Can anyone recommend load testing software for ColdFusion? We're
running CF 8 on a Windows box.   My quick search yielded "OpenDemand for
Adobe ColdFusion MX".  What I like about this product is that it
captures and replays user interactions automatically.  So we should be
able to crank out scenarios involving our actual applications.

2.  No one in our group is a dedicated ColdFusion administrator.  I'm
looking at a description of a Fig Leaf Software Training course called
Administrating ColdFusion 9.  The description of the course looks great.
Anyone have any experience with Fig Leaf Software CF admin training?

Thanks,

ed

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Web Development Team Lead
ECS Team - ITS-EPA II Contractor

109 TW Alexander Drive, Building NCC, Mail Drop N176-05, Research
Triangle Park, NC 27711
Information Technology Infrastructure Solutions | Office: (919)541-3955
| Fax: (919)541-3641 | szwedo...@epa.gov | www.ecs-federal.com



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[ACFUG Discuss] Load testing a ColdFusion server

2010-10-20 Thread Szwedo . Ed

1. Can anyone recommend load testing software for ColdFusion? We're
running CF 8 on a Windows box.   My quick search yielded "OpenDemand for
Adobe ColdFusion MX".  What I like about this product is that it
captures and replays user interactions automatically.  So we should be
able to crank out scenarios involving our actual applications.

2.  No one in our group is a dedicated ColdFusion administrator.  I'm
looking at a description of a Fig Leaf Software Training course called
Administrating ColdFusion 9.  The description of the course looks great.
Anyone have any experience with Fig Leaf Software CF admin training?

Thanks,

ed

__
Ed Szwedo
Web Development Team Lead
ECS Team - ITS-EPA II Contractor

109 TW Alexander Drive, Building NCC, Mail Drop N176-05, Research
Triangle Park, NC 27711
Information Technology Infrastructure Solutions | Office: (919)541-3955
| Fax: (919)541-3641 | szwedo...@epa.gov | www.ecs-federal.com



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