Re: Mozilla: "We’re taking a break from Facebook"
On 04/04/18 09:56, Theo Schmidt wrote: > Am 23.03.2018 um 17:48 schrieb Florian Snow: > ... >> On a sidenote, I think Facebook is a symptom of a privacy issue we as a >> society have, but one that is currently starting to fail. Not because >> people realized it tracks them, but because they are choosing to be >> tracked by someone else. A lot of young people do not use Facebook >> anymore, they use Snapchat and the likes and that is why Facebook had to >> buy Whatsapp - to stay relevant. > But Whatsapp belongs to Facebook as well! As does also Instagram. > > But didn't fb get in trouble, about the way data was shared between these sites, and told it can't do that. It is perhaps worth having a presence oj FB simply to highlight any action against them weather about privacy or even policy changes, so that people following are kept up to date, the more people read about these subjects the more they will hopefully engage and think about the issues. Court action, cases and rulings are important no matter how small they seem. FB are not going to highlight these things,k it is up to uses to force these issues to trending and the FSFE et al can do that. FB has changed their policy as a result of what CA have been doing, but that should never end the matter we need to keep this in the public view, a little but like what the groups in the US campaigning for better gun controls and background checks, if you drop the topic, people forget it very quickly. If computer science is about questioning how something works, we need to get people asking questions, even to themselves about what are they sharing, do they need to share that etc. Paul > This mailing list is covered by the FSFE's Code of Conduct. All > participants are kindly asked to be excellent to each other: > https://fsfe.org/about/codeofconduct -- Paul Sutton http://www.zleap.net Torbay Tech Jam - 2nd Saturday of the Month at Paignton Library ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion This mailing list is covered by the FSFE's Code of Conduct. All participants are kindly asked to be excellent to each other: https://fsfe.org/about/codeofconduct
Re: Mozilla: "We’re taking a break from Facebook"
Am 23.03.2018 um 17:48 schrieb Florian Snow: ... > On a sidenote, I think Facebook is a symptom of a privacy issue we as a > society have, but one that is currently starting to fail. Not because > people realized it tracks them, but because they are choosing to be > tracked by someone else. A lot of young people do not use Facebook > anymore, they use Snapchat and the likes and that is why Facebook had to > buy Whatsapp - to stay relevant. But Whatsapp belongs to Facebook as well! As does also Instagram. > Regarding your implied question of whether the FSFE should have a > Facebook account, my answer is still yes, under certain conditions. > First of all, the FSFE is an organization, not a person (and no, > corporations are also not people!), so being tracked has completely > different implications. ... I think we are missing the point here. It is not only whether FB is free software or not, how well it tracks users or even only about FB. The point is, it is about world supremacy or even domination! Maybe even the end of democracy as we know it! Firms like FB, G, A, etc. are taking over the world and while they may come and go, there is a real danger for mankind when one or more of these firms control not only media or money, but also physical things like automobiles, weapons and resources. Therefore we should strive to use only public or at least quasi-public resources like IP, HTML, and email, or if unavoidable, avoid private market-leaders at all costs. And the cost (of not using* FB (still the market leader in "social media") for FSFE to me would seem small, but I don't know. Theo Schmidt *and to use is to support, as the primary "currency" is not money here. ___ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion This mailing list is covered by the FSFE's Code of Conduct. All participants are kindly asked to be excellent to each other: https://fsfe.org/about/codeofconduct
