Re: Mobile phone details: Sailfish

2019-05-17 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Am Donnerstag 16 Mai 2019 13:38:20 schrieb Joe Awni:
> Would love to hear more details about the early-days. What
> Free Software projects where you following in 1989?

My main computer these days were an Amiga 500
and the main source of Free Software the Fred Fish disks.
There were Matt Dillons editor DME and various small
tools, hack, a vi clone (which I did't like), terminal software and so on. I 
don't remember precisely in which year gnuplot was included first, but it was 
on there as well. (gnuplot is not related to GNU, but Free Software.)

Matt later wrote his own compiler DICE. My understanding of Free Software 
concepts was not very explicit, this changed in the early nineties.

Cheers,
Bernhard


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Re: Mobile phone details: Sailfish

2019-05-16 Thread Bernhard E. Reiter
Am Freitag 10 Mai 2019 17:37:19 schrieb Paul Boddie:
> Maybe the FSFE Wiki could host such information, particularly if
> the adminstrators reinstalled a half-decent way of formatting tables.

Personally I think that the main work is in keeping the info maintained.
(Independently from the technology.)

> I didn't even think there were very many available Sailfish devices these
> days, 

The've changed strategy to port to devices from other hardware vendors.
In my view for the better.

So currently available are
  The Sony Xperia™ XA2 product range and Sony Xperia™ X
  Gemini PDA.
and upcoming is Cosmo.
See https://jolla.com/sailfishx/ (except for infos about Cosmo)
  
> > Most of them work well and the main point is diversity. Apart from
> > Google's GNU/Linux distribution called "Android", there is almost no
> > other one people could by if they wanted to. Actually "Android" is a big
> > success for Free Software as most consumer devices now come with a Free
> > Software operating system by default. :)
>
> I don't share your enthusiasm, really. If people give me Free Software and
> yet deny me the benefits that it should bring, they might as well not be
> giving me Free Software to begin with.

Here I disagree, I think each step forward is good.
While of course it maybe two steps forward and one back, including new 
challenges. And I do remember other times, so I know the progress regarding 
Free Software in the last 30 years.

Best Regards,
Bernhard

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