Re: the FSFE resignations (was: Fwd: where there's smoke, there's fire)

2019-10-18 Thread Jean Louis
* Daniel Pocock  [2019-10-18 20:06]:
> What would be more interesting is the audio recordings from the meeting
> and the names of people voting for and against particular motions.

In regards to those minutes, if they are real:

Changes of the statute require a majority of three quarters of the
delivered valid voices; abstentions are not counted. Dissolution of
the FSFE requires four fifths of the voices of all members of the
association. Changing the purpose of the FSFE can only be decided with
unanimous agreement of all members. Members not present at the General
Assembly can submit their agreement in writing to the president within
one month.

So they removed that, making further changes even easier. They have
some legal advisor, is name known?

I think that everybody can collect email addresses from a mailing list
to inform members, that is not illegal, as information of members is
genuine interest for organization. They are trying to make it illegal
case.

Jean
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Re: the FSFE resignations (was: Fwd: where there's smoke, there's fire)

2019-10-18 Thread Daniel Pocock


Can you please tell us if the people who resigned have requested anonymity?

Anybody can work out who they are by comparing the team page to an
archived copy:

https://web.archive.org/web/20191001042154/https://fsfe.org/about/team.en.html

https://fsfe.org/about/team.en.html

I chose not to repeat their names, they are on BCC and invited to come
and speak on their own, if they haven't already been participating here
with anonymous identities.

What would be more interesting is the audio recordings from the meeting
and the names of people voting for and against particular motions.

Regards,

Daniel

On 18/10/2019 14:15, Chelsea Snowden wrote:
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: Chelsea Snowden 
> To: discussion@lists.fsfellowship.eu
> Date: October 18, 2019 at 2:57 PM
> Subject: where there's smoke, there's fire
> I want to put the rumors to rest. Here is a clean version as proof. Even
> at the risk of being exposed.
> 
> 
> -- forwarded message --
> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2019 21:41:57 +0200
> Subject: [GA] Withdrawal from the association
> [additional headers redacted]
> 
> Dear Matthias,
> 
> I write to you, in your role as President of the Free Software
> Foundation e.V., to declare my withdrawal from the association,
> effective today.
> 
> Dear members,
> 
> I have reached a point in my involvement, where I have decided it is
> time to move on. This decision reflects the reality that both people and
> organizations change in their priorities.
> 
> In terms of free software, I will continue to apply myself, but I have
> to find new partners.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> [redacted]
> 
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> -- forwarded message --
> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 19:59:37 +0900
> Subject: Withdrawal from the association
> [additional headers redacted]
> 
> Dear Matthias
> 
> I am writing to you, in your role as President of the Free Software
> Foundation e.V., to declare my withdrawal from the association, FSFE
> team and FSFE legal team, effective today.
> 
> Dear GA Members, Members of FSFE Team, FSFE Legal Team
> 
> After 12 years in the General Assembly of FSFE, and 13 in FSFE team and
> the FSFE legal team, I have decided it is time to move on. This decision
> reflects the reality that both people and organizations change in their
> priorities and their application of scarce resources such as time.
> 
> In terms of open access and open technology, I will continue to apply
> myself activities such as the OpenChain Project and spaces of shared
> knowledge such as the Legal Network and the Asian Legal Network.
> 
> I can be contacted, as always, at [redacted]
> 
> Regards
> 
> [redacted]
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