Re: [pfSense-discussion] Sorry guys

2008-03-06 Thread Rainer Duffner


Am 06.03.2008 um 23:30 schrieb Chris Buechler:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gentlemen!

I sorry to have started this Return Receipt storm.

Chris Buechler complained to me in private and asked me to turn  
off RR when writing to this forum which I will of course do my  
outmost to remember in the future.




I half expected a "read receipt" pop up when I clicked on this  
message.  ;)  Thanks.


If someone wants to tell me how to strip that off messages with  
ezmlm, I'll gladly do it, but I don't have time or care enough to  
look into how.







http://www.ezmlm.org/faq/FAQ-9.html

See 9.5

Disclaimer: I don't run a mailinglist with ezmlm, I only tinkered  
with it briefly.


Or do you use qmailadmin?

cheers,
Rainer
PS: I searched on google with "ezmlm strip headers"...
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Re: [pfSense-discussion] Sorry guys

2008-03-06 Thread Chris Buechler

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gentlemen!

I sorry to have started this Return Receipt storm.

Chris Buechler complained to me in private and asked me to turn off RR 
when writing to this forum which I will of course do my outmost to 
remember in the future.




I half expected a "read receipt" pop up when I clicked on this message.  
;)  Thanks.


If someone wants to tell me how to strip that off messages with ezmlm, 
I'll gladly do it, but I don't have time or care enough to look into how.





[pfSense-discussion] Sorry guys

2008-03-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Gentlemen!

I sorry to have started this Return Receipt storm.

Chris Buechler complained to me in private and asked me to turn off RR
when writing to this forum which I will of course do my outmost to
remember in the future.

Problem is that I prefer having RR on as default when doing normal mail
and I didn't foresee the kaos this would lead to when writing pfSense.
I have joined many other mailing lists where this is not a problem - I
guess they strip the RR-header on incoming mails.

Thanks (and sorry)
Claus

PGP
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xBE727C09&op=get&exact=on




Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread RB
> The real problem is that the %^$%^#$& mail program I am using does not allow 
> you to turn of return receipts.
Corporate standards for the win!  I feel for you, as your situation is
very similar to what initially drove me to use my own address versus a
corporate one.

>  Anyhow, it's fixed now.You can go on complaining about something else...
But that's not how the intarweb works, we've always got to have
something to complain about!


Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread Ryan Neily





The real problem is that the %^$%^#$& mail program I am using does not
allow you to turn of return receipts.

Anyhow, it's fixed now.You can go on complaining about something
else...

Ryan Neily


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On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 02:53:19PM +, Paul M wrote:
> RB wrote:
> > Bwa ha ha!  Delicious, delicious irony!  I knew it was inevitable
> > since Ryan had to read the thread at least once more before fixing
> > things, but it was worth it to see this one come in.
>
> has he fixed things?

Just forward his spam to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with full headers.

If anyone on this list would start doing it, maybe his admins
would wise up, and LART him.

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> >
> > On 3/6/08, Ryan Neily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Return Receipt
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> >> Your document: RE: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service
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> >> was received by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> at: 03/06/2008 09:22:47 EST
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Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread Paul M
Eugen Leitl wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 02:53:19PM +, Paul M wrote:
>> RB wrote:
>>> Bwa ha ha!  Delicious, delicious irony!  I knew it was inevitable
>>> since Ryan had to read the thread at least once more before fixing
>>> things, but it was worth it to see this one come in.
>> has he fixed things?
> 
> Just forward his spam to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with full headers. 
> 
> If anyone on this list would start doing it, maybe his admins
> would wise up, and LART him.

shame SLTP never made it to a proper RFC
http://buffy.sighup.org.uk/hfiles/aeds.html



Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 02:53:19PM +, Paul M wrote:
> RB wrote:
> > Bwa ha ha!  Delicious, delicious irony!  I knew it was inevitable
> > since Ryan had to read the thread at least once more before fixing
> > things, but it was worth it to see this one come in.
> 
> has he fixed things?

Just forward his spam to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with full headers. 

If anyone on this list would start doing it, maybe his admins
would wise up, and LART him.

> 
> > 
> > On 3/6/08, Ryan Neily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Return Receipt
> >>
> >> Your document: RE: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service
> >>
> >> was received by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> at: 03/06/2008 09:22:47 EST
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Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread Ryan Neily

Sorry guys.  I have unsubscribed.   Hopefully this will fix things..

Ryan Neily


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On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 01:32:11PM +, Paul M wrote:

> I too have asked him privately. I suspect he's using Lotus Notes or
> something equally horrible which cannot be configured sanely!

That's what God invented webmail for.

> Can the list admin get the mail system changed to strip the recipient
> request headers out?

The correct course of action is to boot him off on first offense.

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Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread Ryan Neily
Return Receipt
   
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Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread Paul M
RB wrote:
> Bwa ha ha!  Delicious, delicious irony!  I knew it was inevitable
> since Ryan had to read the thread at least once more before fixing
> things, but it was worth it to see this one come in.

has he fixed things?

> 
> On 3/6/08, Ryan Neily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Return Receipt
>>
>> Your document: RE: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service
>>
>> was received by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> at: 03/06/2008 09:22:47 EST



Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread RB
Bwa ha ha!  Delicious, delicious irony!  I knew it was inevitable
since Ryan had to read the thread at least once more before fixing
things, but it was worth it to see this one come in.

On 3/6/08, Ryan Neily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Return Receipt
>
> Your document: RE: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service
>
> was received by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> at: 03/06/2008 09:22:47 EST


RE: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread Ryan Neily
Return Receipt
   
   Your   RE: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service  
   document:   
   
   was[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   received
   by: 
   
   at:03/06/2008 09:22:47 EST  
   




Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread RB
> The correct course of action is to boot him off on first offense.

This makes seven on my count


Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 01:32:11PM +, Paul M wrote:

> I too have asked him privately. I suspect he's using Lotus Notes or
> something equally horrible which cannot be configured sanely!

That's what God invented webmail for. 
 
> Can the list admin get the mail system changed to strip the recipient
> request headers out?

The correct course of action is to boot him off on first offense. 
 
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Re: [pfSense-discussion] system for a good traffic shaping

2008-03-06 Thread RB
> is that system good or  not , any idea ?
That should work, depending on your requirements, but do note that
this only provides for failover on the circuits; should either of your
pfSense systems fail, the entire network will go offline.

Not having done multi-wan, I don't know how pfSense does hashing on
the circuit election, but if it doesn't take external destination into
account you'll never use one of your circuits.  That said, I'm sure
the devs did the Right Thing with this as they have with so many other
things - can anyone confirm?

I do have one question: what are the routers between the external
system and the intarweb, and are they necessary?  Depending on what
their capabilities are, I could see using them in a different
arrangement to provide a more HA solution.


RB


Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread Paul M
RB wrote:
> No, really - I asked you once in private, now I ask you again in

I too have asked him privately. I suspect he's using Lotus Notes or
something equally horrible which cannot be configured sanely!

Can the list admin get the mail system changed to strip the recipient
request headers out?

> public: please turn off your foolish Outlook receipts.  It is
> ridiculous that we have to wade through your mail client's automated
> spew that just tells us you received/read a given message. Most of us
> really don't care (or actively dislike it), and you clutter stuff up
> by not being a good list citizen.
> 
> On 3/5/08, Ryan Neily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Return Receipt
>>
>> Your document: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service
>>



Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread RB
No, really - I asked you once in private, now I ask you again in
public: please turn off your foolish Outlook receipts.  It is
ridiculous that we have to wade through your mail client's automated
spew that just tells us you received/read a given message. Most of us
really don't care (or actively dislike it), and you clutter stuff up
by not being a good list citizen.

On 3/5/08, Ryan Neily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Return Receipt
>
> Your document: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service
>
> was received by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> at: 03/06/2008 01:00:01 EST


Re: [pfSense-discussion] Rules Default

2008-03-06 Thread Jose Augusto
Thanks =)

it's a question levanted by staff here =)



2008/3/6, Paul M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Jose Augusto wrote:
> > Hi,
> >  How pfsense work, begin with all ports closed? And then i open the
> > necessary ports?
>
>
> by default closed.
>
> however, whatever rule set you choose to implement it, you should
> a/ understand how to test it
> b/ test it regularly
>
> any security product, no matter how good, which is badly configured is
> useless!
>



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Re: [pfSense-discussion] Rules Default

2008-03-06 Thread Paul M
Jose Augusto wrote:
> Hi,
>  How pfsense work, begin with all ports closed? And then i open the
> necessary ports?

by default closed.

however, whatever rule set you choose to implement it, you should
a/ understand how to test it
b/ test it regularly

any security product, no matter how good, which is badly configured is
useless!


[pfSense-discussion] Rules Default

2008-03-06 Thread Jose Augusto
Hi,
 How pfsense work, begin with all ports closed? And then i open the
necessary ports?

Thanks

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formação destas exige mais que uma seqüência de treinamentos. Porque você
treina macacos. Pessoas,você educa."

FreeBSD: The Freedom to Perform!
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[pfSense-discussion] TCP Flags

2008-03-06 Thread Jose Augusto
How PfSense work with TCP Flags?
It's possible?

Thanks

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[pfSense-discussion] system for a good traffic shaping

2008-03-06 Thread John Dakos [ Enovation Technologies ]




hello all

i have 1 lan   and2 wan ,   because  the traffic shaping is not work in 
multiple wans in 1.2 released , i want to configure this system

i setup  1 pfsense for load balancing and fail over

and second pfsense for  traffic shaping and squid cashe.

is that system good or  not , any idea ?

is working good traffic shaping here ?

thanks  *.*<>

Re: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service

2008-03-06 Thread Greg Hennessy

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

There are! But only the default 0.pfsense.pool.ntp.org server is
specified.

What I see is that my pfSense talks to a number of different time
servers and many of those looks like ordinary ADSL subscribers which
scares me a little.
  

That's the whole point

http://www.pool.ntp.org/


Common for all time servers seen is that they geographical are close to
where I live which made me believe that there was some kind of self
configuration going on - maybe based on the timezone entered ?
  

http://www.pool.ntp.org/use.html

will explain further.


Greg



I poked around in the command line looking for *ntp* files but that
didn't reveal anything.

Claus 


|-Original Message-
|From: Bill Marquette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|Posted At: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:55 AM

|Posted To: pfSense
|Conversation: [pfSense-discussion] pfSense / Time Service
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|On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:00 PM, jason whitt 
|<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|> i may be wrong here however i thought there was a default 
|time server sync

|> setup in the config?
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|There is.  Look in System->General.  Bottom of the page I believe.
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|--Bill
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