[Distutils] Fwd: Error getting pyodbc from pypi shared some log

2014-03-01 Thread Nilakhya Chatterjee
Please look at https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyodbc the download url of the
said package got missing.

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From: Nilakhya Chatterjee nilakhya.chatter...@globallogic.com
Date: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:46 PM
Subject: Error getting pyodbc from pypi shared some log
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No distributions at all found for pyodbc=3.0.7 (from
vertica-sqlalchemy-0.2)
Exception information:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File
/home/ubuntu/myenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/basecommand.py,
line 122, in main
status = self.run(options, args)
  File
/home/ubuntu/myenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/commands/install.py,
line 270, in run
requirement_set.prepare_files(finder, force_root_egg_info=self.bundle,
bundle=self.bundle)
  File /home/ubuntu/myenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/req.py,
line 1157, in prepare_files
url = finder.find_requirement(req_to_install, upgrade=self.upgrade)
  File /home/ubuntu/myenv/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip/index.py,
line 285, in find_requirement
raise DistributionNotFound('No distributions at all found for %s' % req)
DistributionNotFound: No distributions at all found for pyodbc=3.0.7 (from
vertica-sqlalchemy-0.2)

Let me know if you can quickly resolve this.

Tx !

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[Distutils] Is there any sense to put setuptools as a requirement?

2014-03-01 Thread Piotr Dobrogost
Hi!

I've seen people putting 'setuptools' in 'install_requires' in
setup.py starting with import from setuptools like this:
from setuptools import setup, find_packages

Does it make any sense?
In what circumstances should 'setuptools' be listed in
'install_requires' or 'setup_requires'?


Regards,
Piotr Dobrogost
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Re: [Distutils] Is there any sense to put setuptools as a requirement?

2014-03-01 Thread Brett Cannon
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Piotr Dobrogost 
p...@google-groups-2014.dobrogost.net wrote:

 Hi!

 I've seen people putting 'setuptools' in 'install_requires' in
 setup.py starting with import from setuptools like this:
 from setuptools import setup, find_packages

 Does it make any sense?
 In what circumstances should 'setuptools' be listed in
 'install_requires' or 'setup_requires'?


Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but you can list setuptools in
setup.cfg as part of setup_requires and then tools that read setup.cfg
instead of/prior to executing setup.py can know they need setuptools to
properly execute setup.py.
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Re: [Distutils] Is there any sense to put setuptools as a requirement?

2014-03-01 Thread Jim Fulton
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Piotr Dobrogost
p...@google-groups-2014.dobrogost.net wrote:
 Hi!

 I've seen people putting 'setuptools' in 'install_requires' in
 setup.py starting with import from setuptools like this:
 from setuptools import setup, find_packages

 Does it make any sense?
 In what circumstances should 'setuptools' be listed in
 'install_requires' or 'setup_requires'?

It makes sense when you use setuptools to implement namespace packages.

So, for example in zope packages, the __init__.py in the zope namespace
package typically has:

import pkg_resources
pkg_resources.declare_namespace(__name__)

Jim

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Re: [Distutils] Is there any sense to put setuptools as a requirement?

2014-03-01 Thread PJ Eby
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Piotr Dobrogost
 p...@google-groups-2014.dobrogost.net wrote:
  Hi!
 
  I've seen people putting 'setuptools' in 'install_requires' in
  setup.py starting with import from setuptools like this:
  from setuptools import setup, find_packages
 
  Does it make any sense?
  In what circumstances should 'setuptools' be listed in
  'install_requires' or 'setup_requires'?

 It makes sense when you use setuptools to implement namespace packages.

 So, for example in zope packages, the __init__.py in the zope namespace
 package typically has:

 import pkg_resources
 pkg_resources.declare_namespace(__name__)


It also makes sense if you use entry points, the plugin finder, or any
other pkg_resources features, for that matter.  ;-)  Or if you reuse
setuptools functionality (e.g. easy_install) to install plugins for your
app.

But in general, it only makes sense to depend on setuptools if your actual
project contents (aside from setup.py) are importing things from
pkg_resources or setuptools.
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Re: [Distutils] Is there any sense to put setuptools as a requirement?

2014-03-01 Thread Marcus Smith
with pip 1.5 able to install from wheel without setuptools, it's more
critical now to declare the dependency (in the cases PJ mentions), to
ensure setuptools gets installed.


On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 6:49 PM, PJ Eby p...@telecommunity.com wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Jim Fulton j...@zope.com wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Piotr Dobrogost
 p...@google-groups-2014.dobrogost.net wrote:
  Hi!
 
  I've seen people putting 'setuptools' in 'install_requires' in
  setup.py starting with import from setuptools like this:
  from setuptools import setup, find_packages
 
  Does it make any sense?
  In what circumstances should 'setuptools' be listed in
  'install_requires' or 'setup_requires'?

 It makes sense when you use setuptools to implement namespace packages.

 So, for example in zope packages, the __init__.py in the zope namespace
 package typically has:

 import pkg_resources
 pkg_resources.declare_namespace(__name__)


 It also makes sense if you use entry points, the plugin finder, or any
 other pkg_resources features, for that matter.  ;-)  Or if you reuse
 setuptools functionality (e.g. easy_install) to install plugins for your
 app.

 But in general, it only makes sense to depend on setuptools if your actual
 project contents (aside from setup.py) are importing things from
 pkg_resources or setuptools.


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[Distutils] Remaining tasks before metadata 2.0 can be accepted (was Re: The PEP 426 defined metadata version will be metadata 3.0)

2014-03-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 27 February 2014 10:46, Marcus Smith qwc...@gmail.com wrote:
 that would be good.  If you did, I would link to the tasks from the PUG
 future page.

OK, these are the things I consider blockers for an accepted metadata 2.0 spec:

https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi-metadata-formats/issues?priority=blockerstatus=openstatus=new

Finalising PEP 426/440/459 is on me. At this point, I think that
consists of *taking away* things that aren't yet settled (specifically
metadata hooks), so we can see how far this next iteration actually
gets us before trying to solve the remaining problems that need some
kind of trigger support.

A required preliminary task is to create a revision of PEP 425 that
expands its scope to also handle the parts of the file/directory
naming scheme that are common across sdist, wheel and the installation
database (with compatibility tags becoming a subsection), as well as
fixing the definition of the compatibility tags to better handle
Windows and Python 2.x binary extensions. (There's a separate
non-blocker issue for better Linux/POSIX support - building from
source is far more common there, and both conda and Linux distro
packages remain available as a near-term workaround for the lack of
upstream binary packages)

The other blockers are then sdist 2.0, wheel 1.1 and a second revision
of the installation database format.

There are more issues in that repo, but they're ones that I don't
consider *essential* as part of a usable metadata 2.0 spec - they're
about things like Linux binary support, distributing full applications
in addition to libraries and handling things that may require the
ability to run code at installation time. Once metadata 2.0 itself is
published, we can likely explore several of them as extensions before
committing to anything in the core PEPs.

Cheers,
Nick.

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Re: [Distutils] Remaining tasks before metadata 2.0 can be accepted (was Re: The PEP 426 defined metadata version will be metadata 3.0)

2014-03-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
On 2 March 2014 15:22, Nick Coghlan ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 27 February 2014 10:46, Marcus Smith qwc...@gmail.com wrote:
 that would be good.  If you did, I would link to the tasks from the PUG
 future page.

 OK, these are the things I consider blockers for an accepted metadata 2.0 
 spec:

 https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi-metadata-formats/issues?priority=blockerstatus=openstatus=new

 Finalising PEP 426/440/459 is on me. At this point, I think that
 consists of *taking away* things that aren't yet settled (specifically
 metadata hooks), so we can see how far this next iteration actually
 gets us before trying to solve the remaining problems that need some
 kind of trigger support.

 A required preliminary task is to create a revision of PEP 425 that
 expands its scope to also handle the parts of the file/directory
 naming scheme that are common across sdist, wheel and the installation
 database (with compatibility tags becoming a subsection), as well as
 fixing the definition of the compatibility tags to better handle
 Windows and Python 2.x binary extensions. (There's a separate
 non-blocker issue for better Linux/POSIX support - building from
 source is far more common there, and both conda and Linux distro
 packages remain available as a near-term workaround for the lack of
 upstream binary packages)

 The other blockers are then sdist 2.0, wheel 1.1 and a second revision
 of the installation database format.

Just remembered two more blockers - updating the JSON schema files to
account for the switch to making heavy use of schema extensions and
rerunning the PyPI compatibility analysis.

Cheers,
Nick.

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[Distutils] Deferring metadata hooks

2014-03-01 Thread Nick Coghlan
I've just posted updated versions of PEP 426 and 459 that defer the
metadata hooks feature. The design and behaviour of that extension
is still way too speculative for me to approve in its current form,
but I also don't want to hold up the rest of the changes in metadata
2.0 while we thrash out the details of a hook system.

That said, I still don't want us to get into a situation where someone
later publishes a wheel file that expects metadata hook support and
older tools silently install it without running the hooks.

Accordingly, the revised PEP 426 adds a single simpler feature to the
extensions system: the idea of a required extension.

If a project sets that flag for an extension (by including
required_extension: true in the extension metadata), and an
installation tool doesn't understand it, then the tool is required to
either fail the installation attempt entirely or else fall back to
installing from source.

That way, project authors will be able to distinguish between these
metadata hooks are just an optimisation, things will still work if you
don't run them and if you don't run these hooks, your installation
will be broken.

I think this approach may also encourage a design where projects do
something sensible *by default* (e.g. NumPy defaulting to SSE2) and
then use the (not yet defined) post-installation hooks to potentially
*change away* from the default to something more optimised for that
particular system (e.g. NumPy overwriting itself with an SSE3
version), while still *allowing* developers to refuse to let the
software install if the metadata hooks won't be run.

Regards,
Nick.

P.S. The draft PEP for metadata hooks is still available at
https://bitbucket.org/pypa/pypi-metadata-formats/src/default/metadata-hooks.rst

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