Re: Translations for upcoming Django 1.9

[Fòram na Gàidhlig]

"Scottish Gaelic" and "Gàidhlig", please.

I have also just sent a pull request for the datetime formats etc.

https://github.com/django/django/pull/5723

I don't understand the flake8 error, could somebody please have a look?

Thank you :)



Sgrìobh Claude na leanas 25/11/2015 aig 19:23:
> Sure, I can plan to merge translations on the 30th.
> 
> By the way, we've got at least two new languages (Gaelic, Scottish /
> Colombian Spanish), with core strings fully translated. We'll have to
> add them as new available languages in settings.LANGUAGES, which means
> that two new strings will appear soon.
> 
> Fòram, could you tell us how you would like the language name to appear?
> Scottish Gaelic or simply Gaelic?
> We'd also need the native name of the language (Gàidhlig?).
> 
> I've created https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/25815 to track that.
> 
> Claude
> 
> Le 25. 11. 15 19:47, Tim Graham a écrit :
>> Hi Claude,
>>
>> We're on track for the final release on December 1. Do you want to plan
>> to push the translations on the day before or so?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sunday, October 11, 2015 at 3:04:09 PM UTC-4, claudep wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'd just like to let you know that I updated the translation
>> templates
>> on Transifex with updated strings for Django 1.9.
>> Strings will not be officially freezed before the RC release planned
>> for
>> November 16, but we can expect very few changes from now, if any.
>>
>> https://www.transifex.com/django/django/
>> 
>>
>> Happy translating,
>>
>> Claude
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How to test my translation?

[Fòram na Gàidhlig]

Hi all,

First of all, a big thanks to the devs to reacting to all my queries
that fast! Also, string design is generally very good :)

I have now managed to set up a Django environment for testing and have
done some in-context proofreading on the admin interface. I would also
like to do that for core and the other modules. Is there a ready-made
application somwhere that I can use? I tried searching for one, but the
search results get me info on unit tests, which isn't what I need here,
or a plethora of unrelated test_djanngo repositories on Github.

GunChleoc

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Re: No answers from project maintainers on Transifex

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Sgrìobh Aymeric Augustin na leanas 12/05/2016 aig 08:18:
> 
> Unfortunately we appear to have a non-negligible attrition rate among
> coordinators. Unmaintained languages are more likely to attract new
> contributions, which makes the problem worse.
> 
> I think we should adopt rules such as:
> 
> - if a coordinator doesn't respond in two weeks, we accept a contributor
>   who want to join their team
> 
> - if a coordinator doesn't respond in two weeks, we promote a contributor
>   who wants to coordinate the team
> 
> What do you think?

Sounds good to me.

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Translation issues for Django 1.10

[Fòram na Gàidhlig]

I am unable to complete my translation for django-contrib-comments due
two some issues. I have filed them on Transifex, but nobody has reacted
to them yet:

https://www.transifex.com/django/django-contrib-comments/translate/#issues

Where is te appropriate place to file translation issues?

Thanks

GunChleoc

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Re: Translation issues for Django 1.10

[Fòram na Gàidhlig]

> https://github.com/django/django-contrib-comments/issues

Thanks - issues opened

https://github.com/django/django-contrib-comments/issues/103

https://github.com/django/django-contrib-comments/issues/104

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Re: Wrong plural form used in Polish translation when the number is 14.

[Fòram na Gàidhlig]

You can contact Transifex here:

https://www.transifex.com/contact/

You sould also compare with the plural rule in the CLRD, to make sure
that the error isn't there already. Transifex updated the Polish Plural
forms recently to match the CLDR.

http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/latest/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html#pl

If thee is a problem in the CLDR, you can file a ticket:

http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/newticket

See also:

http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/2556

http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/3685


Sgrìobh Claude Paroz na leanas 27/04/2017 aig 20:37:
> Hi Diego,
> 
> May I request your expertise on this question? Would you be able to
> answer Rafał's question?
> 
> Claude
> 
> Le 27. 04. 17 à 19:17, Rafał P. a écrit :
>> Thanks Claude and Maciej.
>> So I guess the rule Transifex uses for Polish is wrong; in the .po file
>> downloaded from there it is:
>> |
>> Plural-Forms:nplurals=4;plural=(n==1?0:(n%10>=2&%10<=4)&&(n%100<12||n%100>=14)?1:n!=1&&(n%10>=0&%10<=1)||(n%10>=5&%10<=9)||(n%100>=12&%100<=14)?2:3);
>>
>> |
>> notice "(n%100<12 || n%100>=14)"
>> -
>> http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/latest/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html
>> states
>> that for 'few' the rule is
>> |
>> v =0and
>>   i %10=2..4and
>>   i %100!=12..14
>> |
>> Seems like an 'off-by-one' mistake for me. Any idea where should I file
>> a bug report about that?
>>
>> W dniu czwartek, 27 kwietnia 2017 13:23:58 UTC+2 użytkownik Maciek Olko
>> napisał:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Relevant on Transifex:
>> https://www.transifex.com/django/django/translate/#pl/core/12374783
>>
>>  .
>>
>> Rules to figure out which one is to be corrected:
>>
>> https://github.com/django/django/commit/96ec72e298cd359648e1cf408d3c506ee3b1f297#diff-1f70fc8fac8bc7919babacddb8222445R41
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> .
>>
>> Regards,
>> Maciej
>>
>> czw., 27 kwi 2017 o 09:05 użytkownik Claude Paroz
>>  napisał:
>>
>> Le 26. 04. 17 à 21:03, Rafał P. a écrit :
>> > Hello,
>> > encountered this bug in timesince() - the result is '14
>> minuty' or '14
>> > godziny' instead of 'minut' / 'godzin'. Please see
>> > https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/28136
>>  for additional
>> information.
>> > Tried to find anything relevant on Transifex, but with no luck.
>>
>>
>> Hey Rafał,
>>
>> Transifex changed plural rules for Polish recently. Read for
>> example:
>>
>> https://github.com/mumble-voip/mumble/issues/2854
>> 
>> https://wl.widelands.org/forum/topic/2814/?page=1
>> 
>>
>> I know some translators are not happy with that, but we have no
>> other
>> choice as users of that platform.
>>
>> I think Polish translators should now review all plural
>> strings for
>> Django. Inform us when you are done and we'll update the
>> translations in
>> a further 1.11.x Django release.
>>
>> Claude
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Re: Question about grammatical case when “humanizing” dates

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Sgrìobh Claude Paroz na leanas 07/05/2018 aig 07:54:
> Le 07. 05. 18 à 08:34, Fòram na Gàidhlig a écrit :
>> Hi Max,
>>
>> thanks for looking into this!
>>
>> To answer your question: Always, always, always present the translators
>> with full sentences, no exceptions. Even if the current hard-coding
>> should work for 50 languages that have been tested, language #51 will
>> come along and have a different word order and screw things up.
>>
>> So, the string markup should be "X days ago" and "In X days", with no
>> hard-coded word order at all. You're already taking the plural forms
>> into account by using npgettext, so that bit is correct.
> 
> Hey GunChleoc,
> 
> You know I'm already convinced with this rule, however it's very
> difficult (if possible at all) in the present use case, because the
> composed string is highly dynamic. It can be:
> 
> 3 days ago
> 2 weeks, 3 days ago
> 1 year, 3 months ago
> ...
> 
> We'll try to come with an improved situation with the patch. Anyone with
> a still better implementation idea is welcome to participate.
> 
> Claude
> 
>>> When reviewing the changes in my pull request
>>> <https://github.com/django/django/pull/9777
> 


That's a tougher situation - I guess we'll need to separate the "x days"
bit then with npgettext and have a "X, Y ago" string? Or maybe 2 of
those, one for day/month and one for month/year?

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