Re: Django email | Gmail | Outlook

[Abdul Qoyyuum]

There are other alternatives if you use Django-Anymail package. Go 
to https://anymail.dev/en/stable/ to see a list of supported 3rd party 
email services. Some have free limits for you to use. Good luck!

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 7:22:38 PM UTC+8 devfem...@gmail.com wrote:

> *Google* no longer support less seureappswhat next?
> is there anyway we can use gmail for Django email?
>
>
> if no way please send the best lesson for *Outlook* configuration :)
>

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Re: Django email | Gmail | Outlook

[Paul Kudla (SCOM.CA Internet Services Inc.)]

thanks for the hint on gmailapi

i figure they had something outlook has an azure server plugin (same idea)

just an fyi i was taking a more generalized approach to the issue

as an isp i have customers spanning several different providers needing 
a more generalized solution.


gmail, office, rogers, aol, yahoo etc etc etc

i generally use fetchmail to handle this but there is no oauth2 
avaliable yet and you still need a device key - aka manual setup


I am putting together a python program to handle this the main issue is 
getting prompted backwards in html on a new device / connection and 
busilding some sort of connect library per provider.


Afterwhich i save the device key in a local database for future use?





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Thanks - paul

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On 5/31/2022 4:31 PM, Dev femibadmus wrote:

i have solved my issue using the gmailapi anyone having same issue??


On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 2:57 PM Dev femibadmus > wrote:


Wow  thanks  so much Paul

On Mon, May 30, 2022, 13:40 Paul Kudla (SCOM.CA 
Internet Services Inc.) mailto:p...@scom.ca>> wrote:


Unfortunately gmail / outlook although on different time tables
will
force oauth2 shortly without end users being able to avoid this.

Thus outlook protocol will not really be an option.

I have researched this with python and alike.

right now there does not seem to be any turn key soultions in
python or
fetchmail (i use fetchmail for my older customers)

there seems to be lib's around to handle to oauth2 protocols but
not
much doc's on how to use them?


simply put from my research to date is oauth2 does the following

1. you try to connect to the mail server

2. it stops (unless you already have a device id key) and
redirects to a
website link for a key

3. once on the website you need to say yes to some kind of auth
(trying
to accomodate with http libs)

4. the website returns the key (which you probably should save)

5. from there (thus far research to date) normal python libs
will handle
emails thereafter as before.

other option is like with google where you need to signup for a
developer account (or something) that will generate a key for your
account & device at which point other emails to that, only good
for 15
devices ??

after that you have to pay?

just a heads up, other non-main stream providers (like myself) have
other devices in place for security and will not force customers to
migrate, maybe look for a local provider?

I will eventually handle oauth2 etc but only when forced to
(government
contracts etc)

My suggestion (if you are in unix) is to start up a postfix /
dovecot
email server instance where you are in control of the protocol's
used?
this way your in complete control of your emails in both
directions. Its
a bit of work but leaving things to the main stream providers isn't







Happy Monday !!!
Thanks - paul

Paul Kudla


Scom.ca Internet Services >
004-1009 Byron Street South
Whitby, Ontario - Canada
L1N 4S3

Toronto 416.642.7266
Main 1.866.411.7266
Fax 1.888.892.7266
Email p...@scom.ca 

On 5/30/2022 7:22 AM, Dev femibadmus wrote:
 > *Google* no longer support less seureappswhat next?
 > is there anyway we can use gmail for Django email?
 >
 >
 > if no way please send the best lesson for *Outlook*
configuration :)
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Re: Django email | Gmail | Outlook

[Dev femibadmus]

i have solved my issue using the gmailapi anyone having same issue??


On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 2:57 PM Dev femibadmus 
wrote:

> Wow  thanks  so much Paul
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2022, 13:40 Paul Kudla (SCOM.CA Internet Services Inc.) <
> p...@scom.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> Unfortunately gmail / outlook although on different time tables will
>> force oauth2 shortly without end users being able to avoid this.
>>
>> Thus outlook protocol will not really be an option.
>>
>> I have researched this with python and alike.
>>
>> right now there does not seem to be any turn key soultions in python or
>> fetchmail (i use fetchmail for my older customers)
>>
>> there seems to be lib's around to handle to oauth2 protocols but not
>> much doc's on how to use them?
>>
>>
>> simply put from my research to date is oauth2 does the following
>>
>> 1. you try to connect to the mail server
>>
>> 2. it stops (unless you already have a device id key) and redirects to a
>> website link for a key
>>
>> 3. once on the website you need to say yes to some kind of auth (trying
>> to accomodate with http libs)
>>
>> 4. the website returns the key (which you probably should save)
>>
>> 5. from there (thus far research to date) normal python libs will handle
>> emails thereafter as before.
>>
>> other option is like with google where you need to signup for a
>> developer account (or something) that will generate a key for your
>> account & device at which point other emails to that, only good for 15
>> devices ??
>>
>> after that you have to pay?
>>
>> just a heads up, other non-main stream providers (like myself) have
>> other devices in place for security and will not force customers to
>> migrate, maybe look for a local provider?
>>
>> I will eventually handle oauth2 etc but only when forced to (government
>> contracts etc)
>>
>> My suggestion (if you are in unix) is to start up a postfix / dovecot
>> email server instance where you are in control of the protocol's used?
>> this way your in complete control of your emails in both directions. Its
>> a bit of work but leaving things to the main stream providers isn't
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy Monday !!!
>> Thanks - paul
>>
>> Paul Kudla
>>
>>
>> Scom.ca Internet Services 
>> 004-1009 Byron Street South
>> Whitby, Ontario - Canada
>> L1N 4S3
>>
>> Toronto 416.642.7266
>> Main 1.866.411.7266
>> Fax 1.888.892.7266
>> Email p...@scom.ca
>>
>> On 5/30/2022 7:22 AM, Dev femibadmus wrote:
>> > *Google* no longer support less seureappswhat next?
>> > is there anyway we can use gmail for Django email?
>> >
>> >
>> > if no way please send the best lesson for *Outlook* configuration :)
>> >
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Re: Django email | Gmail | Outlook

[Dev femibadmus]

Wow  thanks  so much Paul

On Mon, May 30, 2022, 13:40 Paul Kudla (SCOM.CA Internet Services Inc.) <
p...@scom.ca> wrote:

>
> Unfortunately gmail / outlook although on different time tables will
> force oauth2 shortly without end users being able to avoid this.
>
> Thus outlook protocol will not really be an option.
>
> I have researched this with python and alike.
>
> right now there does not seem to be any turn key soultions in python or
> fetchmail (i use fetchmail for my older customers)
>
> there seems to be lib's around to handle to oauth2 protocols but not
> much doc's on how to use them?
>
>
> simply put from my research to date is oauth2 does the following
>
> 1. you try to connect to the mail server
>
> 2. it stops (unless you already have a device id key) and redirects to a
> website link for a key
>
> 3. once on the website you need to say yes to some kind of auth (trying
> to accomodate with http libs)
>
> 4. the website returns the key (which you probably should save)
>
> 5. from there (thus far research to date) normal python libs will handle
> emails thereafter as before.
>
> other option is like with google where you need to signup for a
> developer account (or something) that will generate a key for your
> account & device at which point other emails to that, only good for 15
> devices ??
>
> after that you have to pay?
>
> just a heads up, other non-main stream providers (like myself) have
> other devices in place for security and will not force customers to
> migrate, maybe look for a local provider?
>
> I will eventually handle oauth2 etc but only when forced to (government
> contracts etc)
>
> My suggestion (if you are in unix) is to start up a postfix / dovecot
> email server instance where you are in control of the protocol's used?
> this way your in complete control of your emails in both directions. Its
> a bit of work but leaving things to the main stream providers isn't
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Happy Monday !!!
> Thanks - paul
>
> Paul Kudla
>
>
> Scom.ca Internet Services 
> 004-1009 Byron Street South
> Whitby, Ontario - Canada
> L1N 4S3
>
> Toronto 416.642.7266
> Main 1.866.411.7266
> Fax 1.888.892.7266
> Email p...@scom.ca
>
> On 5/30/2022 7:22 AM, Dev femibadmus wrote:
> > *Google* no longer support less seureappswhat next?
> > is there anyway we can use gmail for Django email?
> >
> >
> > if no way please send the best lesson for *Outlook* configuration :)
> >
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Re: Django email | Gmail | Outlook

[Paul Kudla (SCOM.CA Internet Services Inc.)]

Unfortunately gmail / outlook although on different time tables will 
force oauth2 shortly without end users being able to avoid this.


Thus outlook protocol will not really be an option.

I have researched this with python and alike.

right now there does not seem to be any turn key soultions in python or 
fetchmail (i use fetchmail for my older customers)


there seems to be lib's around to handle to oauth2 protocols but not 
much doc's on how to use them?



simply put from my research to date is oauth2 does the following

1. you try to connect to the mail server

2. it stops (unless you already have a device id key) and redirects to a 
website link for a key


3. once on the website you need to say yes to some kind of auth (trying 
to accomodate with http libs)


4. the website returns the key (which you probably should save)

5. from there (thus far research to date) normal python libs will handle 
emails thereafter as before.


other option is like with google where you need to signup for a 
developer account (or something) that will generate a key for your 
account & device at which point other emails to that, only good for 15 
devices ??


after that you have to pay?

just a heads up, other non-main stream providers (like myself) have 
other devices in place for security and will not force customers to 
migrate, maybe look for a local provider?


I will eventually handle oauth2 etc but only when forced to (government 
contracts etc)


My suggestion (if you are in unix) is to start up a postfix / dovecot 
email server instance where you are in control of the protocol's used? 
this way your in complete control of your emails in both directions. Its 
a bit of work but leaving things to the main stream providers isn't








Happy Monday !!!
Thanks - paul

Paul Kudla


Scom.ca Internet Services 
004-1009 Byron Street South
Whitby, Ontario - Canada
L1N 4S3

Toronto 416.642.7266
Main 1.866.411.7266
Fax 1.888.892.7266
Email p...@scom.ca

On 5/30/2022 7:22 AM, Dev femibadmus wrote:

*Google* no longer support less seureappswhat next?
is there anyway we can use gmail for Django email?


if no way please send the best lesson for *Outlook* configuration :)

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Django email | Gmail | Outlook

[Dev femibadmus]

*Google* no longer support less seureappswhat next?
is there anyway we can use gmail for Django email?


if no way please send the best lesson for *Outlook* configuration :)

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