Re: Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 1.1 to 1.6?

2017-05-17 Thread Derek
What I found was that many third-party apps did not (yet) seem to support 
1.11.  So a move to 1.10 was most pragmatic for us, with the assumption 
that migrating to 1.11 would be straightforward in about a year or so. 
 And, yes, work in Python 3 unless a very good reason not to.

 

> Thanks Andreas, 
>
> Looking at the docs its seems upgrading to 1.11 LTS would give us the 
> longest 
> future in terms of updates. Is there any reason we should consider 1.10 
> over 1.11? 
>
> Thanks 
>
>
> On 5/16/2017 3:11 PM, Andréas Kühne wrote: 
> > I upgraded from 1.3 to 1.5. That was the hard part I think. We are 
> > currently running version 1.10 and the updates to that version have 
> > been without a problem. That being said - it all depends on what your 
> > application does. If you do a lot of things that are specific for your 
> > application. The main problems I had was with changing to class based 
> > views for certain functions. 
> > 
> > Also - you should really be upgrading to a supported LTS version 
> > regardless of what management thinks is necessary. The problem here 
> > isn't the time it takes to do the upgrade, but the things that are 
> > excluded by running an older version of django. Updates to django come 
> > on a regular basis and only come for the supported versions (right now 
> > 1.10 and 1.11). You REALLY don't want to run an old version of django 
> > because of security exploits. 
> > 
> > Regards, 
> > 
> > Andréas 
> > 
> > 2017-05-16 14:28 GMT+02:00 Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au 
>  
> > <mailto:mi...@dewhirst.com.au >>: 
> > 
> > Go from 1.6 to 1.8.18 which is still supported and is easy. Buy 
> > some time. Actually all the upgrades are easy. Well up to 1.10. I 
> > skipped 1.9 and haven't tried to go to 1.11. 
> > 
> > Good luck 
> > 
> > /Connected by Motorola/ 
> > 
> > 
> > NoviceSortOf <dljons...@gmail.com  
> > <mailto:dljons...@gmail.com >> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > It's said here 1.11 is the recommended version of Django. 
> > 
> >     Our upgrade from 1.1 to 1.6 took much more time that expected, 
> > and management does not want to upgrade again. In terms of best 
> > practice 
> > though I'd like to push for it. 
> > 
> > * Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 
> > 1.1 to 1.6? 
> > 
> > Please advise 
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Re: Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 1.1 to 1.6?

2017-05-16 Thread Andréas Kühne
The main problem is as I said earlier your implementation. There COULD be
things that you use (like packages that aren't upgraded or code that
doesn't work) which make the upgrade to 1.11 harder. But it should
absolutely be possible.

I would consider trying to get to 1.11 as it's like you said an LTS.

Going from 1.11 to 2.0 could be harder though - as 2.0 will ONLY support
python 3.

Regards,

Andréas

2017-05-16 15:43 GMT+02:00 Darrell Jonsson <jons...@well.com>:

>
> Thanks Andreas,
>
> Looking at the docs its seems upgrading to 1.11 LTS would give us the
> longest
> future in terms of updates. Is there any reason we should consider 1.10
> over 1.11?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On 5/16/2017 3:11 PM, Andréas Kühne wrote:
>
>> I upgraded from 1.3 to 1.5. That was the hard part I think. We are
>> currently running version 1.10 and the updates to that version have been
>> without a problem. That being said - it all depends on what your
>> application does. If you do a lot of things that are specific for your
>> application. The main problems I had was with changing to class based views
>> for certain functions.
>>
>> Also - you should really be upgrading to a supported LTS version
>> regardless of what management thinks is necessary. The problem here isn't
>> the time it takes to do the upgrade, but the things that are excluded by
>> running an older version of django. Updates to django come on a regular
>> basis and only come for the supported versions (right now 1.10 and 1.11).
>> You REALLY don't want to run an old version of django because of security
>> exploits.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Andréas
>>
>> 2017-05-16 14:28 GMT+02:00 Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au > mi...@dewhirst.com.au>>:
>>
>> Go from 1.6 to 1.8.18 which is still supported and is easy. Buy
>> some time. Actually all the upgrades are easy. Well up to 1.10. I
>> skipped 1.9 and haven't tried to go to 1.11.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> /Connected by Motorola/
>>
>>
>> NoviceSortOf <dljonsson2...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:dljonsson2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> It's said here 1.11 is the recommended version of Django.
>>
>> Our upgrade from 1.1 to 1.6 took much more time that expected,
>> and management does not want to upgrade again. In terms of best
>> practice
>> though I'd like to push for it.
>>
>> * Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from
>> 1.1 to 1.6?
>>
>> Please advise
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Re: Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 1.1 to 1.6?

2017-05-16 Thread NoviceSortOf
Thanks Mike, I might take you up on the 1.6 to 1.8.18 upgrade idea.


On Tuesday, May 16, 2017 at 2:29:43 PM UTC+2, Mike Dewhirst wrote:
>
> Go from 1.6 to 1.8.18 which is still supported and is easy. Buy some time. 
> Actually all the upgrades are easy. Well up to 1.10. I skipped 1.9 and 
> haven't tried to go to 1.11.
>
> Good luck
>
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> NoviceSortOf <dljons...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
> It's said here 1.11 is the recommended version of Django.
>
> Our upgrade from 1.1 to 1.6 took much more time that expected,
> and management does not want to upgrade again. In terms of best practice
> though I'd like to push for it.
>
> * Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 1.1 to 
> 1.6?
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> Please advise 
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Re: Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 1.1 to 1.6?

2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Jonsson


Thanks Andreas,

Looking at the docs its seems upgrading to 1.11 LTS would give us the 
longest
future in terms of updates. Is there any reason we should consider 1.10 
over 1.11?


Thanks


On 5/16/2017 3:11 PM, Andréas Kühne wrote:
I upgraded from 1.3 to 1.5. That was the hard part I think. We are 
currently running version 1.10 and the updates to that version have 
been without a problem. That being said - it all depends on what your 
application does. If you do a lot of things that are specific for your 
application. The main problems I had was with changing to class based 
views for certain functions.


Also - you should really be upgrading to a supported LTS version 
regardless of what management thinks is necessary. The problem here 
isn't the time it takes to do the upgrade, but the things that are 
excluded by running an older version of django. Updates to django come 
on a regular basis and only come for the supported versions (right now 
1.10 and 1.11). You REALLY don't want to run an old version of django 
because of security exploits.


Regards,

Andréas

2017-05-16 14:28 GMT+02:00 Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au 
<mailto:mi...@dewhirst.com.au>>:


Go from 1.6 to 1.8.18 which is still supported and is easy. Buy
some time. Actually all the upgrades are easy. Well up to 1.10. I
skipped 1.9 and haven't tried to go to 1.11.

Good luck

/Connected by Motorola/


NoviceSortOf <dljonsson2...@gmail.com
<mailto:dljonsson2...@gmail.com>> wrote:


It's said here 1.11 is the recommended version of Django.

Our upgrade from 1.1 to 1.6 took much more time that expected,
and management does not want to upgrade again. In terms of best
practice
though I'd like to push for it.

    * Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from
1.1 to 1.6?

Please advise

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Re: Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 1.1 to 1.6?

2017-05-16 Thread Andréas Kühne
I upgraded from 1.3 to 1.5. That was the hard part I think. We are
currently running version 1.10 and the updates to that version have been
without a problem. That being said - it all depends on what your
application does. If you do a lot of things that are specific for your
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for certain functions.

Also - you should really be upgrading to a supported LTS version regardless
of what management thinks is necessary. The problem here isn't the time it
takes to do the upgrade, but the things that are excluded by running an
older version of django. Updates to django come on a regular basis and only
come for the supported versions (right now 1.10 and 1.11). You REALLY don't
want to run an old version of django because of security exploits.

Regards,

Andréas

2017-05-16 14:28 GMT+02:00 Mike Dewhirst <mi...@dewhirst.com.au>:

> Go from 1.6 to 1.8.18 which is still supported and is easy. Buy some time.
> Actually all the upgrades are easy. Well up to 1.10. I skipped 1.9 and
> haven't tried to go to 1.11.
>
> Good luck
>
> *Connected by Motorola*
>
>
> NoviceSortOf <dljonsson2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> It's said here 1.11 is the recommended version of Django.
>
> Our upgrade from 1.1 to 1.6 took much more time that expected,
> and management does not want to upgrade again. In terms of best practice
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>
> * Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 1.1 to
> 1.6?
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Re: Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 1.1 to 1.6?

2017-05-16 Thread Mike Dewhirst
Go from 1.6 to 1.8.18 which is still supported and is easy. Buy some time. 
Actually all the upgrades are easy. Well up to 1.10. I skipped 1.9 and haven't 
tried to go to 1.11.

Good luck

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>
>It's said here 1.11 is the recommended version of Django.
>
>
>Our upgrade from 1.1 to 1.6 took much more time that expected,
>
>and management does not want to upgrade again. In terms of best practice
>
>though I'd like to push for it.
>
>
>* Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 1.1 to 1.6?
>
>
>Please advise 
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Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 1.1 to 1.6?

2017-05-16 Thread NoviceSortOf

It's said here 1.11 is the recommended version of Django.

Our upgrade from 1.1 to 1.6 took much more time that expected,
and management does not want to upgrade again. In terms of best practice
though I'd like to push for it.

* Is an upgrade from 1.6 to 1.11 as complicated as migrating from 1.1 to 
1.6?

Please advise 

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