Re: Taggit fragmentation (open letter)

[Marcin Tustin]

Alex,

More power to you for sticking your head above the parapet in relation to
this.

Marcin

On Saturday, June 16, 2012, Alex Gaynor wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Simon Bächler 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> I was just checking on github if there was a new version of django-taggit
>> and was quite shocked what I saw. The original repository had not been
>> updated for over a year. Yet there are 41 issues and 12 pull requests.
>> There are 114 forks, 17 of which had commits within the last month.
>>
>> Shortly, it is a big mess. I'm sure some of the forks have important
>> bugfixes while other just add features required for a certain project. But
>> it is really necessary that either Alex Gaynor or someone else gets that
>> app back on track.
>>
>> Taggit is the most advanced tagging app. But the main repo has some major
>> issues. Unicode being one of them, whitespace another one.
>>
>> It looks like hcarvalhoalves fork is the most maintained one now.
>>
>> Regards
>> Simon
>>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> You're completely right.  I haven't had the time to maintain
> django-taggit, and the result has been unfair to everyone.  I don't have
> any more free time now than I did a month ago, which means I don't have the
> time to try to right the ship.  If there's an interest in trying to
> consolidate the development that's happened in all the forks, I can try to
> help in any way I can logistically, but I can't review patches or do new
> development at this point.
>
> Sorry,
> Alex
>
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Re: Taggit fragmentation (open letter)

[Alex Gaynor]

On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Simon Bächler  wrote:

> I was just checking on github if there was a new version of django-taggit
> and was quite shocked what I saw. The original repository had not been
> updated for over a year. Yet there are 41 issues and 12 pull requests.
> There are 114 forks, 17 of which had commits within the last month.
>
> Shortly, it is a big mess. I'm sure some of the forks have important
> bugfixes while other just add features required for a certain project. But
> it is really necessary that either Alex Gaynor or someone else gets that
> app back on track.
>
> Taggit is the most advanced tagging app. But the main repo has some major
> issues. Unicode being one of them, whitespace another one.
>
> It looks like hcarvalhoalves fork is the most maintained one now.
>
> Regards
> Simon
>

Hi everyone,

You're completely right.  I haven't had the time to maintain django-taggit,
and the result has been unfair to everyone.  I don't have any more free
time now than I did a month ago, which means I don't have the time to try
to right the ship.  If there's an interest in trying to consolidate the
development that's happened in all the forks, I can try to help in any way
I can logistically, but I can't review patches or do new development at
this point.

Sorry,
Alex

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Re: Taggit fragmentation (open letter)

[Russell Keith-Magee]

Hi Simon,

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Simon Bächler  wrote:
> I was just checking on github if there was a new version of django-taggit
> and was quite shocked what I saw. The original repository had not been
> updated for over a year. Yet there are 41 issues and 12 pull requests. There
> are 114 forks, 17 of which had commits within the last month.
>
> Shortly, it is a big mess. I'm sure some of the forks have important
> bugfixes while other just add features required for a certain project. But
> it is really necessary that either Alex Gaynor or someone else gets that app
> back on track.

At this point, I feel it necessary to point out that you've missed one
very important person off the list of people that can help get this
app back on track - YOU.

I'm sure this wasn't your intention, but your message sounds like
you're demanding that someone else volunteer to fix your problems.

If Alex isn't on top of his pull requests, there's a reason. Given
that he's just graduated from college and is starting full time work,
I'm going to guess that it's because he's busy with other projects,
and his personal use case for django-taggit isn't as strong as it once
was. And while that may be very disappointing to you personally, it is
ultimately *your* problem. If you're not happy with django-taggit, I'm
sure Alex will offer you a 100% refund of everything you paid for it.

So - if you're not happy with the state of django-taggit, then it's up
to *you* -- not anybody else -- to fix the problem. Roll up your
sleeves and get involved. Start addressing some of the tickets.
Generate a private branch that merges all the pull requests. You say
the hcarvalhoalves fork is the most maintained? Start submitting pull
requests to them, instead of Alex. If they don't respond, start
publicising your own fork. And when you've put in enough effort to
show that you're serious, consider contacting Alex directly and see if
he's interested in sharing ownership of the project, or passing the
project off to you completely.

This is the beauty of open source. You have all the tools you need to
solve any problem you have. However, you have to get involved.
Standing on the sidelines complaining doesn't get anything done.

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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Taggit fragmentation (open letter)

[Simon Bächler]

I was just checking on github if there was a new version of django-taggit 
and was quite shocked what I saw. The original repository had not been 
updated for over a year. Yet there are 41 issues and 12 pull requests. 
There are 114 forks, 17 of which had commits within the last month. 

Shortly, it is a big mess. I'm sure some of the forks have important 
bugfixes while other just add features required for a certain project. But 
it is really necessary that either Alex Gaynor or someone else gets that 
app back on track.

Taggit is the most advanced tagging app. But the main repo has some major 
issues. Unicode being one of them, whitespace another one.

It looks like hcarvalhoalves fork is the most maintained one now.

Regards
Simon

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