Re: create users from /etc/passwd?

2012-02-02 Thread Mike Dewhirst

On 3/02/2012 7:00am, Tim wrote:

Thanks for all this great information. Thorsten, I do have hope that
'pam' will solve the problem, but if I get nowhere with that, Furbee's
links and info will help me go further; I just didn't want the user to
have to sign on twice when I don't really care about authentication,
just user identification. In any case, I'm reading those docs now, and
the blog article.

David, I wish I could do this via the LDAP set up but as far as I can
tell there isn't one.


You can.

If you accept that users will have to authenticate in your Django app 
then if you use ldap you won't have to worry about passwords at all. 
They will enter the same username and password they usually do when they 
power up their workstations.


I have used Peter Herndon's django-ldap-groups very successfully to do 
just that. It will create a new user including any ldap groups you set 
up for Django based entirely on successful ldap authentication. It will 
bring whatever ldap info across to Django that you require.


Mike



thanks again!
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Re: create users from /etc/passwd?

2012-02-02 Thread Tim
Thanks for all this great information. Thorsten, I do have hope that 'pam' 
will solve the problem, but if I get nowhere with that, Furbee's links and 
info will help me go further; I just didn't want the user to have to sign 
on twice when I don't really care about authentication, just user 
identification.  In any case, I'm reading those docs now, and the blog 
article.

David, I wish I could do this via the LDAP set up but as far as I can tell 
there isn't one.

thanks again!
--Tim

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Re: create users from /etc/passwd?

2012-02-02 Thread David Fischer
Depending on your intranet, you may already have an LDAP directory. If you 
do, I would use a combination of Apache, 
mod_ldapand Django's 
RemoteUserMiddleware
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Re: create users from /etc/passwd?

2012-02-02 Thread Thorsten Sanders

https://bitbucket.org/maze/django-pam/

maybe that helps?

On 02.02.2012 16:47, Tim wrote:

I'm running Django 1.3.1 on FreeBSD + Apache2.2 inside an intranet.

I do not grok authentication, so here is my problem and a question 
about how I can solve it (maybe).
What I need is the name of the user who hits the application. I don't 
care about the password, I just need to know who they are. I've been 
unable to get the REMOTE_USER from Apache, mainly because I think 
Apache doesn't know it either (no authentication is used on the 
httpd.conf).


I thought (here's my maybe solution) I might create a bunch of users 
in Django by parsing the /etc/passwd database. Then at least each user 
would have the same username/password they use to login to the network.


Is that possible? Is there a better way to get the username?
thanks,
--Tim

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Re: create users from /etc/passwd?

2012-02-02 Thread Furbee
Hi Tim,

I'm not totally sure, but I don't think this will work. You could parse the
passwd file to get the usernames, but the passwords are encrypted. Since
you don't have the system's decryption key, you would not be able to
determine the password. If you just used what is in /etc/shadow it would
not match the password that the users enter when they try to authenticate
in Django.

I would suggest using Django's built-in authentication system. Then when a
user goes to your site, and enters their credentials, you will be able to
access the user information in the view with request.user (assuming
"request" is your view's first parameter name).

Django's documentation is a lifesaver, here's setting up User
Authentication:
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/topics/auth/

Here's accessing session information when a user is logged in.
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/topics/http/sessions/

Finally, you can use the decorator @login_required for views that require
authentication. However, I found it easier for many applications that use
site-wide authentication (usually the case with intranet development) to
use middleware to require login for every page. I implemented something
similar to this and it works perfectly.:
http://onecreativeblog.com/post/59051248/django-login-required-middleware

You're want to study up on how middleware works, here:
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/topics/http/middleware/


Good Luck,

Furbee

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Tim  wrote:

> I'm running Django 1.3.1 on FreeBSD + Apache2.2 inside an intranet.
>
> I do not grok authentication, so here is my problem and a question about
> how I can solve it (maybe).
> What I need is the name of the user who hits the application. I don't care
> about the password, I just need to know who they are. I've been unable to
> get the REMOTE_USER from Apache, mainly because I think Apache doesn't know
> it either (no authentication is used on the httpd.conf).
>
> I thought (here's my maybe solution) I might create a bunch of users in
> Django by parsing the /etc/passwd database. Then at least each user would
> have the same username/password they use to login to the network.
>
> Is that possible? Is there a better way to get the username?
> thanks,
> --Tim
>
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create users from /etc/passwd?

2012-02-02 Thread Tim
I'm running Django 1.3.1 on FreeBSD + Apache2.2 inside an intranet. 

I do not grok authentication, so here is my problem and a question about 
how I can solve it (maybe).
What I need is the name of the user who hits the application. I don't care 
about the password, I just need to know who they are. I've been unable to 
get the REMOTE_USER from Apache, mainly because I think Apache doesn't know 
it either (no authentication is used on the httpd.conf).

I thought (here's my maybe solution) I might create a bunch of users in 
Django by parsing the /etc/passwd database. Then at least each user would 
have the same username/password they use to login to the network.

Is that possible? Is there a better way to get the username?
thanks,
--Tim

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