Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC Aggregate Reports

2022-02-17 Thread Matthäus Wander via dmarc-discuss

John Dutfield via dmarc-discuss wrote on 2022-02-17 10:22:

What does a missing envelope address in the XML reports indicate?


It depends on whether the field is missing entirely, or whether it has 
an empty value .


A missing  usually indicates that the reporter uses an 
old report format and omits reporting the envelope from address. This 
old format can be recognized by having no  field.


An empty  usually indicates a report 
about a bounce, i.e., a message sent with a null envelope MAIL FROM: <>.


When reviewing the reports there are lot reports that do not include the 
envelope address, are these an indicator that the emails where forwarded 
or undeliverable messages?


No.

Regards,
Matt
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Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC Aggregate Reports

2022-02-17 Thread John Dutfield via dmarc-discuss
Hi Ahsan


When you say logs do you mean the aggregate reports?

And what is it I should be looking for?

As far as using the reports for the purpose of moving to SPF hard Fail and 
DMARC = Quarantine should we filter out the records where the Envelope address 
is null?

Thanks




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Hi John

Are those bounce messages or NDR messages. Probably a detailed look into the 
logs could identify that.

Regards
Ahsan




On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 2:57 PM John Dutfield via dmarc-discuss 
mailto:dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org>> wrote:
What does a missing envelope address in the XML reports indicate?

When reviewing the reports there are lot reports that do not include the 
envelope address, are these an indicator that the emails where forwarded or 
undeliverable messages?



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Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC Aggregate Reports

2022-02-17 Thread Ahsan Khan via dmarc-discuss
Hi John

Are those bounce messages or NDR messages. Probably a detailed look into
the logs could identify that.

Regards
Ahsan




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> What does a missing envelope address in the XML reports indicate?
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> envelope address, are these an indicator that the emails where forwarded or
> undeliverable messages?
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