Re: [DMM] Comment on draft-ietf-dmm-deployment-models

2018-04-15 Thread Seil Jeon
Hi Charlie,

 

Thanks for your comments. I think your comments make sense, as I agreed on
it in my presentation.

Showing the mapping and relationship between the given components in this
draft and the 5GS. But I will check about depth of it and what documents
will be considered.

The update version will be posted in May.

 

Thanks again!

 

Regards,

Seil Jeon

 

From: Charlie Perkins [mailto:charles.perk...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 8:49 AM
To: Seil Jeon
Cc: dmm@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [DMM] Comment on draft-ietf-dmm-deployment-models

 

Hello Seil,

Please excuse my delay for this clarifying comments.  I have been immersed
elsewhere.

In order to be as clear as possible, please let me refer to a couple of
diagrams.  Slide 5 of your presentation at IETF 101 was entitled "Model-5:
On Demand Control Plane Orchestration Mode".

A URL is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-dmm-dmm-deploy
ment-models-and-architectural-considerations-01.

And then we have various representations of 3GPP architectural diagrams for
5G.  For instance, one can look at slides 4-6 of K. Bogineni et al.'s
presentation.

A URL for the latter is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-dmm-optimized-
mobile-user-plane-solutions-for-5g-00

My suggestion was to try to correlate the two different representations of
advanced mobility management architectures.  This would involve making a
correspondence between the [dmm] nomenclature (e.g., H-CPA, A-CPN, etc.) and
the 3GPP nomenclature.  Plus it would be very nice to express the Service
Primitives in terms of 3GPP 5G reference points - for at least a few of
them.  Otherwise there is a reasonable chance that people from 3GPP and
people from IETF may not see each others' points of view.

As I mentioned in an earlier email, I was somewhat surprised that routing
between access networks using heterogeneous physical media was considered to
be a problem, so the mismatch of viewpoints between the SDOs really does
seem to be a problem.  I hope we can avoid it this next time around!  Maybe
the FPC design for policy will be helpful.  I could imagine writing up a new
section for inclusion in draft-bogineni-dmm-optimized-mobile-user-plane, but
as mentioned elsewhere it is not clear just what are the criteria for
selection.  Or (quite likely) I just missed it, but I'll try find it in the
rush of relevant emails after the last IETF.

Regards,
Charlie P.

 

 

 

On 3/27/2018 1:52 AM, Seil Jeon wrote:

Hi Charlie,

 

Thanks for your comments on our update of the I-D.

You commented and suggested that 5G functions in TS 23.501 need to be mapped
with the CPA/CPN, DPA/DPN introduced in our I-D.

I know you have additional suggestions. Will you specifically mention,
please?

 

 

Regards,

Seil Jeon






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Re: [DMM] Comment on draft-ietf-dmm-deployment-models

2018-04-09 Thread Charlie Perkins

Hello Seil,

Please excuse my delay for this clarifying comments.  I have been 
immersed elsewhere.


In order to be as clear as possible, please let me refer to a couple of 
diagrams.  Slide 5 of your presentation at IETF 101 was entitled 
"Model-5: On Demand Control Plane Orchestration Mode".


A URL is: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-dmm-dmm-deployment-models-and-architectural-considerations-01.


And then we have various representations of 3GPP architectural diagrams 
for 5G.  For instance, one can look at slides 4-6 of K. Bogineni et 
al.'s presentation.


A URL for the latter is: 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-dmm-optimized-mobile-user-plane-solutions-for-5g-00


My suggestion was to try to correlate the two different representations 
of advanced mobility management architectures. This would involve making 
a correspondence between the [dmm] nomenclature (e.g., H-CPA, A-CPN, 
etc.) and the 3GPP nomenclature.  Plus it would be very nice to express 
the Service Primitives in terms of 3GPP 5G reference points - for at 
least a few of them.  Otherwise there is a reasonable chance that people 
from 3GPP and people from IETF may not see each others' points of view.


As I mentioned in an earlier email, I was somewhat surprised that 
routing between access networks using heterogeneous physical media was 
considered to be a problem, so the mismatch of viewpoints between the 
SDOs really does seem to be a problem.  I hope we can avoid it this next 
time around!  Maybe the FPC design for policy will be helpful.  I could 
imagine writing up a new section for inclusion in 
draft-bogineni-dmm-optimized-mobile-user-plane, but as mentioned 
elsewhere it is not clear just what are the criteria for selection.  Or 
(quite likely) I just missed it, but I'll try find it in the rush of 
relevant emails after the last IETF.


Regards,
Charlie P.




On 3/27/2018 1:52 AM, Seil Jeon wrote:


Hi Charlie,

Thanks for your comments on our update of the I-D.

You commented and suggested that 5G functions in TS 23.501 need to be 
mapped with the CPA/CPN, DPA/DPN introduced in our I-D.


I know you have additional suggestions. Will you specifically mention, 
please?


Regards,

Seil Jeon



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[DMM] Comment on draft-ietf-dmm-deployment-models

2018-03-27 Thread Seil Jeon
Hi Charlie,

 

Thanks for your comments on our update of the I-D.

You commented and suggested that 5G functions in TS 23.501 need to be mapped
with the CPA/CPN, DPA/DPN introduced in our I-D.

I know you have additional suggestions. Will you specifically mention,
please?

 

 

Regards,

Seil Jeon

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