Re: [Dng] About Devuan's audience
Didn't know this thread was poll-ish. I use/administer/whatever 100 machines at the moment: 11 run linux, the other 1 (my laptop) runs windows while still in warranty (and because in a realistic world i have to deal with Microsoft Office, although i've heard its 2003 version runs well in WINE). Of the 11 linux boxes: * 1 is my desktop which currently runs Whezzy with care taken every time i issue an apt-get install. This machine's been mostly for testing as some of its drives don't play along with the mobo's BIOS so i'll have to postpone ZFS for the moment and stick to RAID5 once i replace those drives. Later it'll be my home server. * Another 1 is a VPS, running Debian stable. * The other 1 is my work laptop which soon will run some other linux instead of the current ubuntu (which i dislike). I've been a regular user for probably around 10 years, alergic to behemoth DEs, not alergic to CLI or compiling stuff from source when even Sid is way behind, considering Slackware, Gentoo and/or LFS to try out new stuff, learn stuff and find good replacements for Debian (i'm not a distro-hoper, but that will very likely change). Yes, Devuan will be on that list. :) I'm also considering OpenBSD and OpenIndiana, assuming i have time to tinker. I have a lot of curiosity and too little time, but i'll help if i can. I'm here because i want choice and i like stuff to be modular and open, not closed and monolithic (unless we're talking about Clarke's 2001). Cheers, Nuno ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for Devuan's future too. with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's co to coordinate on tasks and infrastructure we can share to have TRIOS benefit from our work and perhaps reach more target builds. meanwhile let's give TRIOS the visibility it deserves and a big clap! i added some further explanatory text here: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page with the intention of researching further links and adding a bit more, but someone who goes by the name Gravis immediately reverted what i had done with absolutely zero explanation whatsoever. i therefore feel disinclined to make any further contribution to editing pages where my time is completely and utterly wasted. l. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
On Wed, 2015-02-18 at 11:54 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for Devuan's future too. with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's co to coordinate on tasks and infrastructure we can share to have TRIOS benefit from our work and perhaps reach more target builds. meanwhile let's give TRIOS the visibility it deserves and a big clap! i added some further explanatory text here: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page with the intention of researching further links and adding a bit more, but someone who goes by the name Gravis immediately reverted what i had done with absolutely zero explanation whatsoever. i therefore feel disinclined to make any further contribution to editing pages where my time is completely and utterly wasted. Luke, maybe you should join #debianfork IRC and as him there? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
Luke, I removed the edit because it was completely out of place. It was a list of links and you added a huge line of text to a single entry. without-systemd.org is not directly linked to Devuan, so dont hold it against the project. - Gravis On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for Devuan's future too. with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's co to coordinate on tasks and infrastructure we can share to have TRIOS benefit from our work and perhaps reach more target builds. meanwhile let's give TRIOS the visibility it deserves and a big clap! i added some further explanatory text here: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page with the intention of researching further links and adding a bit more, but someone who goes by the name Gravis immediately reverted what i had done with absolutely zero explanation whatsoever. i therefore feel disinclined to make any further contribution to editing pages where my time is completely and utterly wasted. l. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 02:17:23 +0100 From: Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org To: Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com, dng@lists.dyne.org, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net Subject: Re: [Dng] trios already packaging openrc and removed libsystemd0 Message-ID: 8264f8fb-a38e-4b9c-9627-f131d7fe8...@dyne.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 TRIOS is a great effort. I personally use zfs in production and approve their technical choices including openrc which I believe to be a good candidate for Devuan's future too. with Devuan we will keep the focus of matching Debian as much as possible for the 1.0, yet I look forward to Dragan's co to coordinate on tasks and infrastructure we can share to have TRIOS benefit from our work and perhaps reach more target builds. meanwhile let's give TRIOS the visibility it deserves and a big clap! Jaromil, Thank you and all the others for friendly words of support. Cooperation is of course possible and desirable. When the time comes for Devuan to offer packages of the same functionality that is already provided by Adam Borowski, we will gladly try TRIOS version with devuan packages. @64/32 bit The reason why we offer only 64-bit TRIOS is zfs .. on 32-bit linux kernel, zfs is unstable: http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html Best regards, Dragan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] pre alpha valentine (secret love declaration)
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 12:06:58PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: Hi, anybody has an idea on how to fix this? On Mon, 2015-02-16 at 19:56 +0100, Svante Signell wrote: On Sun, 2015-02-15 at 00:17 +0100, Jaromil wrote: On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Isaac Dunham wrote: I'm wondering what /etc/apt/sources.list looks like; I've tried pointing mine at deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan jessie main that is not yet ready, thats why is called pre-alpha : ) If I understand correctly, this ^^ means the repository indexes aren't being generated yet. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages
Volunteers for package adoption can now head to the [devuan-maintainers][0] project. The [wiki][1] gives instructions to follow for adopting a package from the current [list of base packages][2] that jaromil posted earlier. If you need anything, try #devuan first. == hk [0]: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-maintainers#tab-readme [1]: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-maintainers/wikis/home [2]: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/issues/6#note_78 -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
