Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

2018-11-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi,

KatolaZ writes:

> On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:28:04AM +0100, Irrwahn wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>> bails out while extracting util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan1_amd64.deb, leaving
>> the following lines in debootstrap.log:
>>
>>   tar: ./bin/su: Cannot open: File exists
>>   tar: ./etc/pam.d/su: Cannot open: File exists
>>   tar: ./usr/share/man/man1/su.1.gz: Cannot open: File exists
>>   tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
>>
>> So there clearly is some kind of inconsistency in present ceres which makes
>> debootstrap reproducible go belly-up.
>
> Hi Irrwhan,
>
> you are right. Working on it. Update soon. Sorry for the inconvenience.

FTR, my Devuan Docker image builds[1] on 2018-11-03 went just fine.
Those are the first successful builds since 2018-07-04.

 [1]: https://gitlab.com/paddy-hack/devuan/pipelines

Hope this helps,
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Re: [DNG] systemd in sane-backends

2018-11-04 Thread aitor

Hi,

On 3/11/18 17:34, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

..do it, and holler when you need us testing it.


Done.

I'm finishing my repo of gnuinos ascii in amd64. Yesterday i worked on 
the the packaging of the latest linux-libre (4.18.16) downloaded from 
the [FSF::LA]. I got it at the third attempt, and contacted Javier 
Obregón, the author of EterTICs. I'll help him building this libre 
distro with the live-sdk on ascii.


If anyone of you know where find the sources of some of the following 
projects:


https://radiosyculturalibre.com.ar/compartir/paquetes/

please, holler us :)

Cheers,

Aitor.




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Re: [DNG] systemd in sane-backends

2018-11-04 Thread aitor

On 3/11/18 10:28, aitor wrote:
As far as i know, the systemd utility in sane is useful only in the 
case of network printers


I rectify: *scanners*


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Re: [DNG] systemd in sane-backends

2018-11-04 Thread aitor

Hi Olaf,

On 4/11/18 10:11, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:

SANE has absolutely nothing to offer for printers.  It is for scanners
and some other raster image acquistion devices only.


You are right, i was thinking on scanners. For printers i used CUPS in 
the past. Now, i print form my android mobile.


For scanners, i use Xsane. I don't know why, but it always asks for 
root's password.


Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] systemd in sane-backends

2018-11-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi aitor,

I've seen you've already gone ahead and dropped the systemd build
dependency.  As SANE Project janitor, I just wanted to chime in to
clear up some misconceptions.

aitor writes:

> Hi all,
>
> libsystemd-dev is present in the packaging of sane-backends in both
> jessie and ascii. As far as i know, the systemd utility in sane is
> useful only in the case of network printers. Am i wrong?

SANE has absolutely nothing to offer for printers.  It is for scanners
and some other raster image acquistion devices only.

The build dependency on libsystemd-dev is used to integrate logging in
the saned daemon with systemd's logging.  The integration is strictly
optional.  Logging to syslog will be used as an alternative.

> dh-systemd and libsystemd-dev can be removed from debian/control replacing:
>
> dh $@ --parallel --with autotools_dev, systemd
>
> by
>
> dh $@ --parallel --with autotools_dev
>
> in debian/rules.

If ./configure cannot find the necessary systemd API, the integration is
automatically disabled.  Not installing libsystemd-dev is a good way to
achieve this.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [DNG] systemd in sane-backends

2018-11-04 Thread aitor

On 4/11/18 9:49, aitor wrote:


If anyone of you know where find the sources of some of the following 
projects:


https://radiosyculturalibre.com.ar/compartir/paquetes/

please, holler us :)


Simplescreenrecorder, gradio and yad are done.

Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-04 Thread Andreas Messer
On Sun, Nov 04, 2018 at 12:11:44AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> It's a _touchscreen_ phone, not a "real" computer.  For that you want Gemini
> or GPD Pocket.  The input device is not fit for any real hacking.  You at
> most connect to it from the outside.

Well, according to their information it is going to have an USB-C with
HDMI output. So Id expect you'ld be able to connect a standard monitor and
USB Keyboard/Mice.

Looking to their first planning with iMX.6, the devkit even had an SATA
connector :-)

> >   I'd love to try upgrading it's PureOS to Devuan too.  It shouldn't be
> > too hard, as the Librem5 is designed to allow a number of distributions
> > to run on it.  Or at least it was, I can no longer find references on
> > https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/ of alternative distributions that
> > will be installable on the Purism5.
> 
> Crossgrading might be not trivial; vendors of such phones tend to customize
> them in a way that makes running an off-the-shelf system require re-doing a
> ridiculous amount of non-upstreamed changes.

Regarding what they write on their site, many of their development
is made on Debian Buster. They just recently announced that their own
'distro' is making some progress. Lots of their changes are pushed back
upstream, so I think we can expected that it will run other distrbutions.

cheers,
Andreas



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