Re: [DNG] Fwd: Future of gNewSense: Debian or Devuan?
On Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 06:46:20PM +0200, Narcis Garcia wrote: > Devuan will be a great basis for your development. The work to do is > not complex. I myself was able to remove all Non-Free Software on my > own and install Linux Libre bundled with Jason Self. > Good news, everything works as expected. Please, for the sake of the Elder Gods, do update the CPU microcode at the very least. And most motherboard vendors stop providing BIOS updates after 1-2 years (if they do so at all!), thus it's much easier to do via a package. Then, you are free to not install anything from the non-free repository. What would be the problem with it being available is beyond me. Meow! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian is one big family. Including that weird uncle ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ and ultra-religious in-laws. ⠈⠳⣄ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Fwd: Future of gNewSense: Debian or Devuan?
Missatge reenviat Assumpte: Re: [DNG] Future of gNewSense: Debian or Devuan? Data: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 12:36:10 -0300 De: pekman Organització: devuan A: dng@lists.dyne.org Em Wed, 31 Jul 2019 10:29:39 +0200 Narcis Garcia escreveu: > Missatge reenviat > Assumpte: Re: [gNewSense-users] Stepping down > Data: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 22:45:32 +0200 > De: Sam Geeraerts > A: gnewsense-us...@nongnu.org > > On 29/07/19 17:10, Will Hill wrote: > [...] > > Indeed, at least technically. If there's anyone here who knows some > Devuan people it would be interesting to hear from him/her. > > ___ > gNewSense-users mailing list > gnewsense-us...@nongnu.org > https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnewsense-users > > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng I think GNewSense is welcome. Devuan will be a great basis for your development. The work to do is not complex. I myself was able to remove all Non-Free Software on my own and install Linux Libre bundled with Jason Self. Good news, everything works as expected. Currently I collaborate with the Devuan documentation in Portuguese language and in the development of Hyperbola GNU/Linux-Libre. Devua will be a great choice for the future of GNewSense. I'm hoping for a prosperous future for the whole team, which will find a solid solution for one of the first FSF certified distros. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Future of gNewSense: Debian or Devuan?
El 2/8/19 a les 18:25, Antoine via Dng ha escrit: > someone on the gNewSense list floated the idea of rebasing their distro > on Devuan, rather than having to rip systemd out themselves (from > Debian, their current base). The above post was then transmitted to us > in search of anyone interested in cooperating. +1 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Future of gNewSense: Debian or Devuan?
I'm sorry, this is the source of the original thread: https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnewsense-users And concrete letters: https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnewsense-users/2019-07/index.html El 1/8/19 a les 18:26, Steve Litt ha escrit: > On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 10:29:39 +0200 > Narcis Garcia wrote: > >> Missatge reenviat >> Assumpte: Re: [gNewSense-users] Stepping down >> Data: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 22:45:32 +0200 >> De: Sam Geeraerts >> A: gnewsense-us...@nongnu.org >> >> On 29/07/19 17:10, Will Hill wrote: >>> It would probably be easier to take non free software out of Devuan >>> than it is to take Systemd out of Debian, so I'll be happy if >>> gNewSense continues the easy way. >> >> Indeed, at least technically. If there's anyone here who knows some >> Devuan people it would be interesting to hear from him/her. > > There's not enough context here to understand, and the attributions > appear screwed up. I have no Devuan posts from Sam Geeraerts nor Will > Hill, so I'm assuming this came in from somewhere else > (gnewsense-us...@nongnue.org maybe?). > > Anyway, if this is a suggestion to yank all nonfree out of Devuan and > call it something else, that's fine with me. As a matter of fact, > Devuan could slowly, selectively and judiciously make the same > substitutions as the child distro. > > But if the suggestion is to yank out nonfree and call it Devuan, for > practical purposes that would make Devuan unbootable for a lot of > people. Malfunctions during boot can have causes depending on tens or > hundreds of factors, many hidden away. It's a bridge too far to > expect someone booting up a distro for the first time to 1) > Know all his hardware, 2) Know exactly what drivers and firmware to > use, 3) Know where to find those drivers and firmware, 4) Know all the > commands to correctly load those drivers and firmware from a thumb > drive, and 5) Have enough spare time to go through all this. > > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > July 2019 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques > of the Successful Technologist > http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
