Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:23:59 +1100 Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Hmm, I understood > > http://www.trek.eu.org/devel/sysd2v/sysd2v-0.2.sh > > to be the code, Yep, that's it, and the code looks pretty good to me. And it looks very useful for what we've been discussing. Thanks Ralph!!! SteveT Steve Litt November 2019 featured book: Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting Second edition http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:35:42 -0600
goli...@devuan.org wrote:
> Even though I agree that we should never have been forced to reinvent
> a wheel that wasn't broken, I have no problem with co-existence. But
> the systemd cabal might not want to share. Will be interesting to see
> if at some point those unit files are locked down in a way that
> prevents the conversion.
Binary files :-)
I wrote a smiley, but their logs are binary and their architecture is
more bizarre and pathological than binary logs. So yeah, they might.
> Then back to the creative drawing board.
I examined the source for 5 minutes. The main routine is:
=
# parse command line
while getopts i:n: opt
do
case $opt in
i) instance=$OPTARG;;
n) name=$OPTARG;;
?) printf "Usage: %s [-i instance] [-n servicename] [filename]\n"
"$0" exit 2;;
esac
done
: ${instance=INSTANCE_NAME}
shift $(($OPTIND - 1))
# convert unit file
read_unit "${1:--}" "$instance"
write_init "${name-$inifile_unit_name}" "$instance"
=
Most of the complexity is in the write_unit() function, which is needed
only for sysvinit scripts (if I read things correctly). I'm pretty sure
that if one comments on the write_unit() line, and maybe adds five or
ten lines to output the output of read_unit(), the unit file is no
longer needed, and each init can use the output of the modified
shellscript to create its startup scripts, confs and dirs.
Once all those intermediate files exist, people can, at the peoples'
leisure, convert those intermediate files to the startup facilities of
their choice. So you were right the first time: This is a BFD, and it's
good.
> One
> possible scenario . . . if init freedom can survive long enough,
> systemd might just trip over its own feet and go poof.
Or perhaps IBM will get sick of this schtick and make Redhat dump
systemd. Write IBM's CEO.
> Hey, I can
> dream . . . :D
A lot of Martin Luther King's dreams have come true.
SteveT
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Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:48:13 +0100, Stephane wrote in message <1179-8fb9-d4ad-4d34-70ad26abf...@univ-paris1.fr>: > > .nope, dunno those .eml files, only tried this with digests, and you > > wanna do one at the time even in scripts to avoid messing up your > > email archive with malformed messages lurking in your digests. > > DIGEST="Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31.eml" ; cat "$DIGEST" |formail -ds > or > DIGEST="Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31.eml" ; cat "$DIGEST" |formail +1 > -ds > > don't work. ..formail needs a proper procmail setup to work properly. > > > ..and still quite often the appropriate way to deal with it. ;o) > > This is a part of free computing spirit nowadays that annoys me. > > > ..you manage your own box? Install procmail there, > > What do you call "box"? I'm at work in my university, using its > infrastructure. ..excellent, talk to your support staff, they are paid handsomely precisely to help/support you. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 08:35:42PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Even though I agree that we should never have been forced to reinvent a > wheel that wasn't broken, I have no problem with co-existence. But the > systemd cabal might not want to share. Will be interesting to see if at some > point those unit files are locked down in a way that prevents the > conversion. Then back to the creative drawing board. One possible scenario . > . . if init freedom can survive long enough, systemd might just trip over > its own feet and go poof. Hey, I can dream . . . :D By that time, we may already have converted enough systemd unit files. -- hendrik > > golinux > > > On 2019-11-27 19:23, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > Hmm, I understood > > > > http://www.trek.eu.org/devel/sysd2v/sysd2v-0.2.sh > > > > to be the code, and that it's about to be included in the sysvinit > > package. > > > > If it works well enough, it'll be a handy tool for init script > > writers, even though it implicitly validates the existence of > > something the world could have been without to start with. > > > > Ralph. > > > > Steve Litt wrote on 28/11/19 11:53 am: > > > On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:18:55 -0600 > > > goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > > > > > More fiddling while Rome burns . . . sigh . . . > > > > > > > > I'm in a bit of a mood because I thought that a script to convert > > > > systemd units to init style shell scripts would be worthy of at least > > > > some discussion. > > > > > > > > golinux > > > > > > Well holy cow, give us a chance! > > > > > > That conversion is pretty technical, and I haven't yet seen the source > > > code: Its location isn't obvious. I can't discuss something I have > > > little knowledge of. After all, we're not systemd fanboiz. The URL you > > > supplied raises more questions than answers. > > > > > > For instance, how the script decides whether to execute something in a > > > function or straightaway is a bit of a mystery to me. Another mystery > > > is which init system the output is intended to control. It doesn't > > > look > > > like any sysvinit scripts I've seen, and it's for sure not runit, s6 > > > or > > > Epoch. > > > > > > If anyone finds the URL of the *actual code* of the converter, please > > > post it. > > > > > > You're right about one thing: This is great news. Whether we end up > > > using the script and adapting to other inits by parsing the output, or > > > whether we end up using part of the script to work with each init, > > > this > > > should make life easier. > > > > > > SteveT > > > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
Even though I agree that we should never have been forced to reinvent a wheel that wasn't broken, I have no problem with co-existence. But the systemd cabal might not want to share. Will be interesting to see if at some point those unit files are locked down in a way that prevents the conversion. Then back to the creative drawing board. One possible scenario . . . if init freedom can survive long enough, systemd might just trip over its own feet and go poof. Hey, I can dream . . . :D golinux On 2019-11-27 19:23, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: Hmm, I understood http://www.trek.eu.org/devel/sysd2v/sysd2v-0.2.sh to be the code, and that it's about to be included in the sysvinit package. If it works well enough, it'll be a handy tool for init script writers, even though it implicitly validates the existence of something the world could have been without to start with. Ralph. Steve Litt wrote on 28/11/19 11:53 am: On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:18:55 -0600 goli...@devuan.org wrote: More fiddling while Rome burns . . . sigh . . . I'm in a bit of a mood because I thought that a script to convert systemd units to init style shell scripts would be worthy of at least some discussion. golinux Well holy cow, give us a chance! That conversion is pretty technical, and I haven't yet seen the source code: Its location isn't obvious. I can't discuss something I have little knowledge of. After all, we're not systemd fanboiz. The URL you supplied raises more questions than answers. For instance, how the script decides whether to execute something in a function or straightaway is a bit of a mystery to me. Another mystery is which init system the output is intended to control. It doesn't look like any sysvinit scripts I've seen, and it's for sure not runit, s6 or Epoch. If anyone finds the URL of the *actual code* of the converter, please post it. You're right about one thing: This is great news. Whether we end up using the script and adapting to other inits by parsing the output, or whether we end up using part of the script to work with each init, this should make life easier. SteveT ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] ZFS on ASCII broken package prevents update to 7.12.2
Hello DNG! First time posting, so please let me know if I'm missing some formalities. I'm currently running up-to-date ASCII with ZFS on root. I'm attempting to update ZFS from backports 0.7.12-1 to 0.7.12.2 but zfsutils-linux does not resolve dependencies and thus prevents the update. Here's the specifics: zfs-dkms0.7.12-1~bpo9+1 --> 0.7.12-2+deb10u1 zfs-zed 0.7.12-1~bpo9+1 --> 0.7.12-2+deb10u1 zfsutils-linux 0.7.12-1~bpo9+1 --> 0.7.12-2+deb10u1 Apt lets me know I need insserv (< 1.18) for zfsutils-linux but 1.14.0- 5.4+b1 is the latest version available (and installed). To me, it looks like I might need to install the insserv package from the beowulf repository, but I thought it might be a good idea to ask before I muck around with things I don't do often. Can anyone give some advice or experience in regards to this? Thanks! decbot ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
Hmm, I understood http://www.trek.eu.org/devel/sysd2v/sysd2v-0.2.sh to be the code, and that it's about to be included in the sysvinit package. If it works well enough, it'll be a handy tool for init script writers, even though it implicitly validates the existence of something the world could have been without to start with. Ralph. Steve Litt wrote on 28/11/19 11:53 am: On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:18:55 -0600 goli...@devuan.org wrote: More fiddling while Rome burns . . . sigh . . . I'm in a bit of a mood because I thought that a script to convert systemd units to init style shell scripts would be worthy of at least some discussion. golinux Well holy cow, give us a chance! That conversion is pretty technical, and I haven't yet seen the source code: Its location isn't obvious. I can't discuss something I have little knowledge of. After all, we're not systemd fanboiz. The URL you supplied raises more questions than answers. For instance, how the script decides whether to execute something in a function or straightaway is a bit of a mystery to me. Another mystery is which init system the output is intended to control. It doesn't look like any sysvinit scripts I've seen, and it's for sure not runit, s6 or Epoch. If anyone finds the URL of the *actual code* of the converter, please post it. You're right about one thing: This is great news. Whether we end up using the script and adapting to other inits by parsing the output, or whether we end up using part of the script to work with each init, this should make life easier. SteveT Steve Litt November 2019 featured book: Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting Second edition http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 13:28:00 -0500 "Ismael L. Donis Garcia" wrote: > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 1:18 PM > Subject: Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests > > > > More fiddling while Rome burns . . . sigh . . . > > > > I'm in a bit of a mood because I thought that a script to convert > > systemd units to init style shell scripts would be worthy of at > > least some discussion. > > > > golinux > > > > ___ > > Dng mailing list > > Dng@lists.dyne.org > > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > > > I am a simple user, but personally I don't want anything that smells > like systemd Please understand, Ismael, the systemd unit files are used for input, but the converter removes every last bit of systemdism before writing the output. Understand also this happens only once, and from then on the init-specific files are maintained as init-specific files. The converter is a one-time automated helper to quickly make starter files, confs and dirs for hundreds of programs, with almost no human intervention. If it really works it *is* good news. SteveT Steve Litt November 2019 featured book: Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting Second edition http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:18:55 -0600 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > More fiddling while Rome burns . . . sigh . . . > > I'm in a bit of a mood because I thought that a script to convert > systemd units to init style shell scripts would be worthy of at least > some discussion. > > golinux Well holy cow, give us a chance! That conversion is pretty technical, and I haven't yet seen the source code: Its location isn't obvious. I can't discuss something I have little knowledge of. After all, we're not systemd fanboiz. The URL you supplied raises more questions than answers. For instance, how the script decides whether to execute something in a function or straightaway is a bit of a mystery to me. Another mystery is which init system the output is intended to control. It doesn't look like any sysvinit scripts I've seen, and it's for sure not runit, s6 or Epoch. If anyone finds the URL of the *actual code* of the converter, please post it. You're right about one thing: This is great news. Whether we end up using the script and adapting to other inits by parsing the output, or whether we end up using part of the script to work with each init, this should make life easier. SteveT Steve Litt November 2019 featured book: Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting Second edition http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 27
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:20:36 +0200 Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 11/27/19 11:55 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..act on it. > > 20years using email, i've roughly seen ~10 replies by digest readers. > and as i already said i don't care about it, nor do i think it needs > action from devuan side. > those who do care (there seem to be a few so far making it a "hot" > topic...), should.. That's an anecdote. I see well over 50 a year, probably over 100 a year. Each one busts up a good thread. You can't assume everybody has the same life experience as you, and thereby declare their opinions not needing action. SteveT Steve Litt November 2019 featured book: Manager's Guide to Technical Troubleshooting Second edition http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian
il devuanizzato Joril via Dng il 27-11-19 09:01:37 ha
scritto:
On 26/11/19 22:13, viverna wrote:
I wrote this summer in this list about a possibility of inject init
run scripts (for example runit) in all Devuan packages automatically.
This is a great idea. I've been in favor of something similar since
2015. It frees "upstreams" from the responsibility of maintaining init
script/configurations for init systems they don't care about or perhaps
despise. Daemon start files are written by experts on the init system.
Sadly it's not just init scripts: for example how would a case like
http://bugs.devuan.org/db/27/276.html
be handled?
I do not know. Maybe using a workaround with sed and friends and
inject rules in postinst? Easy to say hard to get...
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Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests More fiddling while Rome burns . . . sigh . . . I'm in a bit of a mood because I thought that a script to convert systemd units to init style shell scripts would be worthy of at least some discussion. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng I am a simple user, but personally I don't want anything that smells like systemd Best Regards -- Ismael Devuan User: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
More fiddling while Rome burns . . . sigh . . . I'm in a bit of a mood because I thought that a script to convert systemd units to init style shell scripts would be worthy of at least some discussion. golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
think that digest as a method of mail group delivery should be dead Sympa can be set to generate digests as a compilation of individual mails, joined via Mime. So if you do the things right, you can answer the mail with its headers. -- Sincerely, Stephane Ascoet ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests
.nope, dunno those .eml files, only tried this with digests, and you wanna do one at the time even in scripts to avoid messing up your email archive with malformed messages lurking in your digests. DIGEST="Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31.eml" ; cat "$DIGEST" |formail -ds or DIGEST="Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 31.eml" ; cat "$DIGEST" |formail +1 -ds don't work. ..and still quite often the appropriate way to deal with it. ;o) This is a part of free computing spirit nowadays that annoys me. ..you manage your own box? Install procmail there, What do you call "box"? I'm at work in my university, using its infrastructure. -- Sincerely but tired, Stephane Ascoet ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 27
Le 27/11/2019 à 11:20, Dimitris via Dng a écrit : On 11/27/19 11:55 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..act on it. 20years using email, i've roughly seen ~10 replies by digest readers. and as i already said i don't care about it, nor do i think it needs action from devuan side. those who do care (there seem to be a few so far making it a "hot" topic...), should.. We've seen many of them on this list. They come by bunches. They create mess. Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 27
On 11/27/19 11:55 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..act on it. 20years using email, i've roughly seen ~10 replies by digest readers. and as i already said i don't care about it, nor do i think it needs action from devuan side. those who do care (there seem to be a few so far making it a "hot" topic...), should.. 2c more (& moving forward), d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] test_rewrite.sh http://pkgmaster.devuan.org fail
Possibly things go better if you create the build/pool directory by hand. It's unclear to me how you got the situation of an x86.cfg using util/get-dist without also having a build/pool directory, but I may well have messed it up (although I tried staying on "my" branch(es) -- note that the beowulf/* branches are not ready). Ralph. m_ma...@web.de wrote on 27/11/19 8:43 pm: nothing important really, it's just that the script is looking for older packages, that don't exist in repo anymore.. just needs updating... d. sorry Dimitris, i think it is imortant, i can not build a netinstall package for my cluster installation any more. The make can not find the needed udeb packages. util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool E: Unable to locate package base-installer util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool E: Unable to locate package bootstrap-base util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool E: Unable to locate package finish-install util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool E: Unable to locate package acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di' E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di' util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool E: Unable to locate package alsa-utils-udeb util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool and lot more udeb.. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 27
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:38:37 +, Dimitris wrote in message : > People who use digest mode usually don't care to participate to > discussions.. They just want "briefing".. so why bother with people > habbits and not concentrate on the project? ..I'm spoiled, IME from mail lists on thermochemical gasification, they do participate in the discussions, but those people often get/got sidetracked by those briefed ones who forget to set up their responses properly, and who should have used formail to automate that process. > tbh, i find this > conversation distracting. Maybe submitting a wishlist(?) bug in > mailing list projects is more appropriate in this case.. ..act on it. And on your top posting. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] test_rewrite.sh http://pkgmaster.devuan.org fail
On 2019-11-27 11:24:20, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 11/27/19 11:14 AM, m_ma...@web.de wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > can you please take a look to the servers configuration, i become errors > > if i try test_rewrite.sh: > > this was already reported to mirror@d.o. it's not new.. > nothing important really, it's just that the script is looking for older > packages, that don't exist in repo anymore.. just needs updating... Trying to manually download those files that failed, shows that they no longer exist on Debian mirrors. So Dimitris is correct, hde problem is the old files it's looking for. Also I should point out that deb.devuan.org is a DNS round robin, the actual server you get for each download will vary, there is no actual deb.devuan.org server, just a bunch of servers configured to respond to deb.devuan.org. https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html is my mirror checker script that runs hourly, it does similar checks to that rewrite script, and more checks, only with more up to date files. I'm still improving that script, and adding more tests. It also tests deb.devuan.org by probing each server an the round robin list. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] test_rewrite.sh http://pkgmaster.devuan.org fail
below are changes i did a couple of months ago to make the script work..
maybe the versions are changed again, so do check the repo versions to
make sure, and manually edit those in the script..
# diff test_rewrite.sh test_rewrite_new.sh
65,66c65,66
<
DEBSEC_PKG="${BASEURL}/merged/pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/a/apache2/apache2_2.4.25-3+deb9u7_amd64.deb"
<
DEBINST_PKG="${BASEURL}/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/l/linux/btrfs-modules-4.9.0-9-amd64-di_4.9.168-1_amd64.udeb"
---
>
DEBSEC_PKG="${BASEURL}/merged/pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/a/apache2/apache2_2.4.25-3+deb9u8_amd64.deb"
>
DEBINST_PKG="${BASEURL}/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/l/linux/btrfs-modules-4.9.0-11-amd64-di_4.9.189-3_amd64.udeb"
On 11/27/19 11:43 AM, m_ma...@web.de wrote:
>> nothing important really, it's just that the script is looking for older
>> packages, that don't exist in repo anymore.. just needs updating...
>>
>> d.
>
> sorry Dimitris, i think it is imortant, i can not build a netinstall package
> for my cluster installation any more.
> The make can not find the needed udeb packages.
>
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> E: Unable to locate package base-installer
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> E: Unable to locate package bootstrap-base
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> E: Unable to locate package finish-install
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> E: Unable to locate package acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di
> E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di'
> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di'
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> E: Unable to locate package alsa-utils-udeb
> util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool
> and lot more udeb..
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Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests, Epoch
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:42:41 +0100, Stephane wrote in message <6dc8e46d-4448-adcc-dc98-943226524...@univ-paris1.fr>: > Arnt Karlsen: > > > ..you can't (AFAIK), you do it outside your MUA, with e.g.: > > 'cat $DIGEST |formail +1 -ds procmail ' > > HI, yes, it was clear that it couldn't be done graphically in > Thunderbird. The first thing I don't understand is what I must have > behind $DIGEST? The digest saved as an .eml file? ..nope, dunno those .eml files, only tried this with digests, and you wanna do one at the time even in scripts to avoid messing up your email archive with malformed messages lurking in your digests. > > Andrew McGlashan > > > On 26/11/19 3:22 pm, Rick Moen wrote: > >> and just let the two or three users of that mode curse me > >> as long as they feel is therapeutic. > > > > Love it! Great way to deal with it. > > This is a very m$ way to do :-( ..and still quite often the appropriate way to deal with it. ;o) > > And for the formail, guess that's best for on the server > > like .forward files are. > > I don't manage the server ..you manage your own box? Install procmail there, formail is part of it. Then read: https://userpages.umbc.edu/~ian/procmail.html and play around with recipe ideas in the tutorial section. > > Claws Mail's "actions" let you pipe messages to the shell > > For now something like 15 years I know that I should switch to Claws, > witch seems to be more suited for free software and simplicity in > geeks like we are, but changing such a central tool is hard :-/ ..aye. Enjoy the pain. Not too bad though, chk: https://www.pcworld.com/article/258811/linux_favorite_email_client_claws_mail_works_well_on_windows_once_emails_imported.html and: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claws_Mail and: https://www.claws-mail.org/ > viverna: > > Yes I thank you because I did not know Epoch until I read this: > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/init/manjaro_experiments.htm > > And the author of this page is... guess who ;-) ..;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] test_rewrite.sh http://pkgmaster.devuan.org fail
> nothing important really, it's just that the script is looking for older > packages, that don't exist in repo anymore.. just needs updating... > > d. sorry Dimitris, i think it is imortant, i can not build a netinstall package for my cluster installation any more. The make can not find the needed udeb packages. util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool E: Unable to locate package base-installer util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool E: Unable to locate package bootstrap-base util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool E: Unable to locate package finish-install util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool E: Unable to locate package acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di' E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'acpi-modules-4.19.0-6-amd64-di' util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool E: Unable to locate package alsa-utils-udeb util/get-dist: 19: cd: can't cd to pool and lot more udeb.. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] test_rewrite.sh http://pkgmaster.devuan.org fail
On 11/27/19 11:14 AM, m_ma...@web.de wrote: > Dear all, > > can you please take a look to the servers configuration, i become errors if i > try test_rewrite.sh: this was already reported to mirror@d.o. it's not new.. nothing important really, it's just that the script is looking for older packages, that don't exist in repo anymore.. just needs updating... d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] test_rewrite.sh http://pkgmaster.devuan.org fail
Dear all, can you please take a look to the servers configuration, i become errors if i try test_rewrite.sh: Using /usr/bin/curl -- AS_HOST: Trying DEVUAN package (http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/b/base-files/base-files_8+devuan7_amd64.deb)...ret: 0 [OK] Trying DEBIAN package (http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/d/dash/dash_0.5.7-4+b1_amd64.deb)...ret: 0 [OK] Trying DEBSEC package (http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/a/apache2/apache2_2.4.25-3+deb9u7_amd64.deb)...ret: 22 [FAILED] Trying DEBINST package (http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/l/linux/btrfs-modules-4.9.0-9-amd64-di_4.9.168-1_amd64.udeb)...ret: 22 also for http://deb.devuan.org test_rewrite.sh http://deb.devuan.org Using /usr/bin/curl -- AS_HOST: Trying DEVUAN package (http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/b/base-files/base-files_8+devuan7_amd64.deb)...ret: 0 [OK] Trying DEBIAN package (http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/d/dash/dash_0.5.7-4+b1_amd64.deb)...ret: 0 [OK] Trying DEBSEC package (http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/a/apache2/apache2_2.4.25-3+deb9u7_amd64.deb)...ret: 22 [FAILED] Trying DEBINST package (http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/l/linux/btrfs-modules-4.9.0-9-amd64-di_4.9.168-1_amd64.udeb)...ret: 22 [FAILED] === There are 2 rewrite errors -- Please recheck!!! Thank for your support, ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Formail for managing digests, Epoch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 27/11/19 7:42 pm, Stephane Ascoet wrote: > Arnt Karlsen: > >> ..you can't (AFAIK), you do it outside your MUA, with e.g.: 'cat >> $DIGEST |formail +1 -ds procmail ' > > HI, yes, it was clear that it couldn't be done graphically in > Thunderbird. The first thing I don't understand is what I must > have behind $DIGEST? The digest saved as an .eml file? Yes, well, I think if you have a source file that is .eml then I'm sure it can be used to split out emails in mbox format, which can then be converted to individual emails and them you can drag those emails, as required to your TB folder. >> On 26/11/19 3:22 pm, Rick Moen wrote: >>> and just let the two or three users of that mode curse >>> me as long as they feel is therapeutic. >> >> Love it! Great way to deal with it. > > This is a very m$ way to do :-( Not really, the problem comes more with relying on big tech to do things their way, Gmail method of "threading" is horrible too. I think that digest as a method of mail group delivery should be dead, it isn't as useful as it used to be and lived in dial-up days of the long past. Why not just filter mailing list emails to a particular folder and forgo the single emails in favour of many that are easier to work with and not require any special extra processes to deal with properly? Besides Maildir is all about multiple emails in separate files, but mbox is not; mbox is pseudo digest, but still better handled than an actual digest message. Cheers A. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTJAoMHtC6YydLfjUOoFmvLt+/i+wUCXd4+OwAKCRCoFmvLt+/i +5N9AP9Tp9lL/bN0Sn68FFr3rA4W5/X9ww5cX9gX5OL3w0+EwQEA00aQN+QeFfed fkLY5Hzfx4o1Luws6eC7GbXAscO+O5Q= =T2K3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Formail for managing digests, Epoch
Arnt Karlsen: ..you can't (AFAIK), you do it outside your MUA, with e.g.: 'cat $DIGEST |formail +1 -ds procmail ' HI, yes, it was clear that it couldn't be done graphically in Thunderbird. The first thing I don't understand is what I must have behind $DIGEST? The digest saved as an .eml file? Andrew McGlashan On 26/11/19 3:22 pm, Rick Moen wrote: and just let the two or three users of that mode curse me as long as they feel is therapeutic. Love it! Great way to deal with it. This is a very m$ way to do :-( And for the formail, guess that's best for on the server like .forward files are. I don't manage the server Claws Mail's "actions" let you pipe messages to the shell For now something like 15 years I know that I should switch to Claws, witch seems to be more suited for free software and simplicity in geeks like we are, but changing such a central tool is hard :-/ viverna: Yes I thank you because I did not know Epoch until I read this: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/init/manjaro_experiments.htm And the author of this page is... guess who ;-) -- Sincerely, Stephane Ascoet ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 62, Issue 27
People who use digest mode usually don't care to participate to discussions.. They just want "briefing".. so why bother with people habbits and not concentrate on the project? tbh, i find this conversation distracting. Maybe submitting a wishlist(?) bug in mailing list projects is more appropriate in this case.. Just 2c. d. On November 27, 2019 7:31:02 AM UTC, Didier Kryn wrote: >Le 25/11/2019 à 18:41, Alexander Brüning via Dng a écrit : > > Dear VUAs. There are experts of mailing lists management in the >group of Developpers of Devuan. I wonder if it would be possible to >reject emails with the kind of subject of this one. It happens often, >and it was the case recently, that the subject of a thread is hijacked >to start another one, unrelated. This last cae is difficult to handle >automatically, but the general case of a subject being "Dng Digest, Vol > >*, issue *" seems to me rather simple. > > Didier > > >___ >Dng mailing list >Dng@lists.dyne.org >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Converting systemd units to init style shell scripts
xunilog just posted something on the forum that pointed to this from Jessie Smith. Sounds like good news to me that opens all sorts of possibilities. :D golinux === https://www.patreon.com/posts/31633933 Nov 17 at 10:29am Converting systemd units to init style shell scripts In the past I have hinted at the idea of including a tool (or tools) which would help packagers and developers convert systemd unit files into SysV init style shell scripts with LSB headers. While I was working on a C library for this, another developer (who goes by the name Trek) beat me to it. Trek sent over a Bash shell script which accepts a systemd unit file as its sole parameter. It then digests the unit file and prints out an equivalent shell script and some debugging information. The shell script is called sysd2v.sh and is now included in the SysV init source code, under the "contrib" directory. Now converting a unit file into a complete shell script is as easy as running a command like "sysd2v.sh /lib/systemd/system/ssh.service" to translate the OpenSSH service into a shell script. While the conversion script is now part of the SysV init source archive, Trek has kindly made sysd2v.sh available as a stand-alone script on his website: http://www.trek.eu.org/devel/sysd2v/ Thank you, Trek. The new conversion script will be in the next stable release of SysV init, which will carry the version number 2.97. === ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan cannot exist without the help of Debian
On 26/11/19 22:13, viverna wrote: I wrote this summer in this list about a possibility of inject init run scripts (for example runit) in all Devuan packages automatically. This is a great idea. I've been in favor of something similar since 2015. It frees "upstreams" from the responsibility of maintaining init script/configurations for init systems they don't care about or perhaps despise. Daemon start files are written by experts on the init system. Sadly it's not just init scripts: for example how would a case like http://bugs.devuan.org/db/27/276.html be handled? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
