[DNG] PGP (was: Beowulf Beta is here!)

2020-03-22 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 13:14:41 -0400
Dan Purgert  wrote:

> Your trust in my key (and therefore, my signature) should not be
> founded on _where_ you got it from, but your own personal web of
> trust made up of (hopefully!) people you know and trust to do their
> due diligence for confirming I am me.

It used to be a thing that, in person, I'd trade keys just like normies
trade business cards.


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Re: [DNG] Anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan?

2020-03-22 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
Yes I installed it on my 1G/26G VPS (https://meet.rrq.id.au), running jitsi
with its web interface proxied through nginx. Very straight-forward to install
(apt-get install), though I needed to reduce its -Xmx from 3G to 1G.

Basically: you set up the domain; set up nginx SSL; install jitsi and follow
the prompts. I suppose, if you want to use jitsi's jetty web server directly,
then the SSL step is slightly different.

Ralph.

Steve Litt wrote on 2020-03-23 08:55:
> Hi all,
> 
> Has anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan? I need to maintain a
> jitsi server in these days of virtual life.
> 
> SteveT
> 
> Steve Litt
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Re: [DNG] Anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan?

2020-03-22 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng


> On 23 Mar 2020, at 10:19, terryc  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 17:55:25 -0400
> Steve Litt  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Has anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan? I need to maintain a
>> jitsi server in these days of virtual life.
> 
> Err, yes, it "installed on the system" and nmap now lists a number of
> extra services;
> 
> 5222/tcp open  xmpp-client
> 5269/tcp open  xmpp-server
> 5280/tcp open  xmpp-bosh
> /tcp open  sun-answerbook
> 
> But I have progressed no further then that as there doesn't appear to
> be any manuals.
> 
> Totally under whelmed when I ran the Jitsi client and it only allows you
> to sign up to existing commercial services, plus irq.
> 
> I'm looking for something to provide a local server and avoid the data
> and privacy pirates.
> 
> Good Luck.

The github page at https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet has some documentation.

I can see quick-install guide for debian-based systems, tutorial video, and 
manual install instructions.

Just tested installing on Devuan Beowulf now and seemed to go fine, once I 
worked out that you shouldn’t use “localhost” for the jitsi-meet domain when it 
asks in debconf, since that is apparently already taken in the existing config 
somewhere. You just need to assign a separate domain and add that to /etc/hosts 
as specified in the quick-install guide.

The jitsi meet iOS app allows me to specify a custom jitsi-meet server URL but 
I haven’t done enough setup to test that out.

—Tom
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Re: [DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-22 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 3/22/20 12:53 PM, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Yesterday I dist-upgrade ASCII 2.1 (MATE DM) to Beowulf, following [1].

> 
> Now I have: 
> ~~~
> $ uname -a
> Linux computer0 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.6.4-1~bpo8+1
> (2016-08-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux

You can do one of two things to get the beowulf kernel - either install
linux-image-amd64, which is a metapackage that will always install the
latest available kernel, or you can install the kernel by the full package
name, currently linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64.

If you do the latter, stay alert to when -9 comes out. You won't get it
automatically.


> 2. Having upower installed, I have downgraded upower packages as suggested in
> [1], to avoid problems like bug#394 [2] which seems mainly related to 
> cinnamon.
> But I do not have cinnamon... So what I should do? Downgrade or not? If not,
> how to disable downgrading of those packages? 
> 

Take the downgrade. It's not really a downgrade; it's an upgrade to a
lower-numbered version. (We no longer need to fork upower.)

That's all I've got. Hope it helps.

fsmithred


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Re: [DNG] Anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan?

2020-03-22 Thread terryc
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 17:55:25 -0400
Steve Litt  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Has anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan? I need to maintain a
> jitsi server in these days of virtual life.

Err, yes, it "installed on the system" and nmap now lists a number of
extra services;

5222/tcp open  xmpp-client
5269/tcp open  xmpp-server
5280/tcp open  xmpp-bosh
/tcp open  sun-answerbook

But I have progressed no further then that as there doesn't appear to
be any manuals.

Totally under whelmed when I ran the Jitsi client and it only allows you
to sign up to existing commercial services, plus irq.

I'm looking for something to provide a local server and avoid the data
and privacy pirates.

Good Luck.

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Re: [DNG] darkpurpy-grub theme on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 3/22/20 1:30 PM, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote:
> Am 2020-03-22 18:16, schrieb goli...@devuan.org:
>> I'm feeling the darkpurpy love! :)
> 
> You are right :-)
> 
>> But if all else
>> fails you can just replace the cinnabar elements with darkpurpy in
>> /usr/share/desktop-base.  That's how I got cinnabar grub working on my
>> jessie.
> 
> I tried to integrate darkpurpy-grub into update-alternatives but failed.
> In the end it was easiest for me to put the theme into /etc/default/grub


Exactly what did you copy into /etc/default/grub? I tried a couple things
and couldn't get it to work.

I did get it to work using update-alternatives. Maybe your way is easier
than this:

- Install clearlooks-phenix-darkpurpy-theme
- Make sure the following line is in /etc/default/grub

GRUB_THEME=/usr/share/desktop-base/grub-themes/desktop-grub-theme/theme.txt


Then run:
update-alternatives --install \
/usr/share/desktop-base/grub-themes/desktop-grub-theme desktop-grub-theme \
/usr/share/desktop-base/grub/themes/darkpurpy-grub 20

Generate a new boot menu:
update-grub

To change the slim theme:
update-alternatives --install \
/usr/share/slim/themes/desktop-slim-theme desktop-slim-theme \
/usr/share/slim/themes/devuan-curve-darkpurpy 20

To go back to cinnabar:
update-alternatives --config desktop-grub-theme
update-alternatives --config desktop-slim-theme

I didn't mess with the window theme or desktop background. Those are easy
to change in user settings.

fsmithred

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[DNG] Anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan?

2020-03-22 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

Has anyone installed a jitsi server on Devuan? I need to maintain a
jitsi server in these days of virtual life.

SteveT

Steve Litt
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Re: [DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-22 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 05:53:17PM +0100, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Yesterday I dist-upgrade ASCII 2.1 (MATE DM) to Beowulf, following [1].
> 
> Overall, the upgrade appears to have gone well; the process has completed and
> the system is fully functional. But there are some details (maybe minor 
> issues)
> I would like to report, also with some questions.
> 
> Now I have: 
> ~~~
> $ uname -a
> Linux computer0 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.6.4-1~bpo8+1
> (2016-08-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> $ lsb_release -a
> No LSB modules are available.
> Distributor ID:   Debian
> Description:  Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)
> Release:  3
> Codename: beowulf
> ~~~
> 
> 1- There is one aspect of the upgrade that I don't think is in place, and that
> I would like to point out: elogind, libelogind0, libpam-elogind have not been
> upgraded; indeed these packages are marked as 'upgradable'. How should I 
> manage
> this situation?

To help us work out why, what does `apt policy libsystemd0 libelogind0 elogind
libpam-elogind' produce?

Does `apt install libpam-elogind' fix it?

> 2. Having upower installed, I have downgraded upower packages as suggested in
> [1], to avoid problems like bug#394 [2] which seems mainly related to 
> cinnamon.
> But I do not have cinnamon... So what I should do? Downgrade or not? If not,
> how to disable downgrading of those packages?

It applies to upower in general. #394 is just an example. If you don't want the
new packages, do nothing and apt will not install them.

> 3. Programs with a graphic display started complaining about the warning
> "Couldn't register with accessibility bus: ..." [3][4]. Putting 'export
> NO_AT_BRIDGE=1' in /etc/environment seems to have blocked the alerts. I don't
> know if it's a real solution or just a workaround that doesn't solve the
> underlying problem.

They are harmless. But installing at-spi2-core ought to make them disappear.

I will leave teh MATE and theme questions to others with more expertise!

Mark
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Re: [DNG] darkpurpy-grub theme on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread J. Fahrner via Dng

Am 2020-03-22 18:16, schrieb goli...@devuan.org:

I'm feeling the darkpurpy love! :)


You are right :-)


But if all else
fails you can just replace the cinnabar elements with darkpurpy in
/usr/share/desktop-base.  That's how I got cinnabar grub working on my
jessie.


I tried to integrate darkpurpy-grub into update-alternatives but failed. 
In the end it was easiest for me to put the theme into /etc/default/grub

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Re: [DNG] darkpurpy-grub theme on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread golinux

On 2020-03-22 09:11, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote:

After upgrade to beowulf I'm missing the darkpurpy-grub theme. The
files are yet there, but update-alternatives does not know about them,
it only lets me choose cinnabar-grub.

Jochen



I'm feeling the darkpurpy love! :)  I can't offer a technical fix to 
install the package.  Someone else probably can.  But if all else fails 
you can just replace the cinnabar elements with darkpurpy in 
/usr/share/desktop-base.  That's how I got cinnabar grub working on my 
jessie.


golinux
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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 22, 2020, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 08:02:51 -0400
> Dan Purgert  wrote:
> 
> > On Mar 21, 2020, Adrian Zaugg wrote:
> > 
> > > Please get your keys always over secured connections. Use https.  
> > 
> > The entire point of the public key is that it can be obtained over any
> > insecure medium, and still provide the correct signature verification.
> 
> 
> Hallo Dan,
> 
> please re-check what you wrote here - I am sure that you have been
> confused. Let me correct your statement: 

I meant what I said.

You getting my pgp key (8e11ddf31279a281) from https://mysite has no
inherent benefit over getting it from http://mysite.  Or likewise,
getting "notDansRealKey" from "https://notmysite"; doesn't actually
protect you.

Your trust in my key (and therefore, my signature) should not be founded
on _where_ you got it from, but your own personal web of trust made up
of (hopefully!) people you know and trust to do their due diligence for
confirming I am me. (Or in the specific case of the devuan signing key,
that the devuan key is actually owned by the team).

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Re: [DNG] ...

2020-03-22 Thread golinux

On 2020-03-22 07:09, Dimitris via Dng wrote:

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Yes, I have gotten that a few times in overly locked down 
correspondence.  Those generating that type of encryption have learned 
to relax things a bit.


golinux


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Re: [DNG] Chromium on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread golinux

On 2020-03-22 06:44, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote:

On Beowulf Chromium does not start because of missing sandbox.

ERROR:zygote_host_impl_linux.cc(116)] No usable sandbox! If this is a
Debian system, please install the chromium-sandbox package to solve
this problem. If you want to live dangerously and need an immediate
workaround, you can try using --no-sandbox.

I think there is a missing dependency for package chromium-sandbox.

Jochen



Steve Pusser has repackaged Chromium and it is available in his repos.  
Don't know whether it addresses your particular issue - TL;DR - but you 
might want to have a look:


http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=145503

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[DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-22 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Hi all

Yesterday I dist-upgrade ASCII 2.1 (MATE DM) to Beowulf, following [1].

Overall, the upgrade appears to have gone well; the process has completed and
the system is fully functional. But there are some details (maybe minor issues)
I would like to report, also with some questions.

Now I have: 
~~~
$ uname -a
Linux computer0 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.6.4-1~bpo8+1
(2016-08-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description:Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)
Release:3
Codename:   beowulf
~~~

1- There is one aspect of the upgrade that I don't think is in place, and that
I would like to point out: elogind, libelogind0, libpam-elogind have not been
upgraded; indeed these packages are marked as 'upgradable'. How should I manage
this situation?

2. Having upower installed, I have downgraded upower packages as suggested in
[1], to avoid problems like bug#394 [2] which seems mainly related to cinnamon.
But I do not have cinnamon... So what I should do? Downgrade or not? If not,
how to disable downgrading of those packages? 

3. Programs with a graphic display started complaining about the warning
"Couldn't register with accessibility bus: ..." [3][4]. Putting 'export
NO_AT_BRIDGE=1' in /etc/environment seems to have blocked the alerts. I don't
know if it's a real solution or just a workaround that doesn't solve the
underlying problem. 

4. After the upgrade, gtk has lost the font configuration, meaning that gtk
applications had a generic sans font with an almost illegible minimum size. I
suppose it's due to a change in the gtk theme. I solved it by manually setting
font and size using Gtk-ChTheme.

5. Some MATE problems:

5.1. MATE shows a very *huge* amount of errors in .xsession-errors

5.2. The trash icon don't work as expected anymore: if the trash can contains
data then the full-trash icon and its label are displayed; when empty, there
isn't any trash icon bau the label is still in place. I suppose this is a
problem with the theme and/or the svg icon being used (but I cannot figure out
which one is among the many svg trash icons in /usr/share/icons ...)

5.3. MATE (1.20.4) has changed its default typeface which now is the *ugly*
Cantarell, as used in Gnome 3 [5]. Since I don't really like Cantarell, I had
to manually revert default MATE fonts to DejaVu...


Please let me know your suggestions.

Regards

--
[1] https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/upgrade-to-beowulf
[2] https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=394
[3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1056820
[4]
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/532585/getting-dbind-warnings-about-registering-with-the-accessibility-bus
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantarell_(typeface)


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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Florian Zieboll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512

NB: Oh, of course you can also verify the public key, if you have signed
data from a trustworthy source :-)

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iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEELAr/aHjRNwfZVZJo7kVJef5EH9YFAl53hKEACgkQ7kVJef5E
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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Florian Zieboll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512

On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 08:02:51 -0400
Dan Purgert  wrote:

> On Mar 21, 2020, Adrian Zaugg wrote:
> 
> > Please get your keys always over secured connections. Use https.  
> 
> The entire point of the public key is that it can be obtained over any
> insecure medium, and still provide the correct signature verification.


Hallo Dan,

please re-check what you wrote here - I am sure that you have been
confused. Let me correct your statement: 

|| The entire point of the public key, if received from a trustworthy
|| source(!), is that THE DATA SIGNED WITH IT can be obtained over any
|| insecure medium, and still provide the correct signature
|| verification.

Best regards,
Florian

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Re: [DNG] Chromium on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread J. Fahrner via Dng

Am 2020-03-22 13:00, schrieb Mark Hindley:

chromium recommends chromium-sandbox. Do you have no-install-recommends
configured in apt?


Yes, I don't install recommends. When chromium does not run without 
sandbox, then it should be a must, not a recommend.


Jochen
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[DNG] darkpurpy-grub theme on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread J. Fahrner via Dng
After upgrade to beowulf I'm missing the darkpurpy-grub theme. The files 
are yet there, but update-alternatives does not know about them, it only 
lets me choose cinnabar-grub.


Jochen


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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread aitor_czr

On 22/3/20 12:18, Dimitris via Dng wrote:

wget
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb

dpkg --install devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb


resending, last message was encrypted..


Wow!


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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Dimitris via Dng

> wget
> https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb
> 
> dpkg --install devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb
> 

resending, last message was encrypted..
---

or :
# apt-key adv --keyserver hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net
--recv-keys 94532124541922FB



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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 21, 2020, Adrian Zaugg wrote:
> 
> 
> On 19.03.20 20:37, aitor_czr wrote:
> > As you know, you need to install the gpg key of gnuinos:
> > 
> > # curl http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos_pk.asc | apt-key add -
> 
> Please get your keys always over secured connections. Use https.

The entire point of the public key is that it can be obtained over any
insecure medium, and still provide the correct signature verification.

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Re: [DNG] Chromium on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:44:35PM +0100, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote:
> On Beowulf Chromium does not start because of missing sandbox.
> 
> ERROR:zygote_host_impl_linux.cc(116)] No usable sandbox! If this is a Debian
> system, please install the chromium-sandbox package to solve this problem.
> If you want to live dangerously and need an immediate workaround, you can
> try using --no-sandbox.
> 
> I think there is a missing dependency for package chromium-sandbox.

chromium-sandbox exists in beowulf.

chromium recommends chromium-sandbox. Do you have no-install-recommends
configured in apt?

Mark
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Re: [DNG] network-manager on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:40:23PM +0100, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
> after upgrading from Ascii to Beowulf network-manager ist broken.
> 
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  network-manager : Depends: libpam-systemd

Install libpam-elogind

Mark
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[DNG] Chromium on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread J. Fahrner via Dng

On Beowulf Chromium does not start because of missing sandbox.

ERROR:zygote_host_impl_linux.cc(116)] No usable sandbox! If this is a 
Debian system, please install the chromium-sandbox package to solve this 
problem. If you want to live dangerously and need an immediate 
workaround, you can try using --no-sandbox.


I think there is a missing dependency for package chromium-sandbox.

Jochen
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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread aitor


Ho Adrian,

En 22 de marzo de 2020 8:27:58 Adrian Zaugg  escribió:


On 19.03.20 20:37, aitor_czr wrote:

As you know, you need to install the gpg key of gnuinos:


# curl http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos_pk.asc | apt-key add -


Please get your keys always over secured connections. Use https.

This is also bad in the docs for Devuan:
apt-get install devuan-keyring --allow-unauthenticated

Could you please change this to have a secured download or if not
possible a check of the downloaded keys? This is a must. Put something
like the following to the docs:

wget
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb

dpkg --install devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb


Regards, Adrian.


Thanks for your suggestion.

Aitor.



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[DNG] network-manager on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread J. Fahrner via Dng

Hi,
after upgrading from Ascii to Beowulf network-manager ist broken.

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 network-manager : Depends: libpam-systemd

Regards
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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi,

Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng writes:

> Hi,
>
> goli...@devuan.org writes:
>
>> Dear dev1ers,
>>
>> The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for review. The
>> installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos can be downloaded
>> from:
>>
>> https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/
>
> Kudos for all the hard work put in by all of you!
>
>> Please report any issues you may experience to this list,
>> bugs.devuan.org,
>> freenode irc #devuan-dev or the dev1galaxy.org forum.
>
> I prefer submitting issues at bugs.devuan.org to prevent them falling
> thru the cracks :-) but I'm wondering whether they should go to
>
>  - debian-installer, or
>  - installation-reports

Mark pointed out devuan-installer.  Thanks!

> I've so far found a few issues installing from the amd64 netinstall ISO
> (created 20200313)
>
>  - grub-efi-amd64 is not included (but grub-efi-ia32 is :-?)
>- the server ISO seems to have the same issue
>  - not installing any of the extra software, not even the standard
>system utilities, leaves you with a fairly badly broken system
>- no network (ifupdown not installed ... :-o)
>- weird behaviour of the backspace key (input is deleted but the
>  cursor moves forward instead of backwards)
>- encrypted lvm with openrc only mounts / (with sysvinit other
>  filesystems are mounted)

The above holds even when the standard system utilities are installed.

> Background: I have been doing *minimal* air-gapped installs using the
>   Devuan ASCII (and Debian buster) netinst ISOs without any trouble.
>   Here minimal means zero extra packages, not even standard system
>   utilities.  When following the same procedure with the Beowulf beta
>   ISO this no longer works :cry:
>
> Off now to try with the amd64 server ISO (on non-UEFI hardware).

The server ISO worked fine for an air-gapped install on non-UEFI
hardware.  I expect it to fail installing GRUB on UEFI hardware because
the grub-efi-amd64 package (and its dependencies?) are not included.

I have since stumbled across

 1. The *_netinstall.iso (~300 M) installs a minimal base system then
 downloads additional packages from the Devuan repositories during the
 installation process.  Not to be used for offline installs.

in the Devuan Beowulf Install Guide[1].  I guess the guide is serious
about the netinstall image *not* to be used for offline installs.

 [1]: 
https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/beowulf/install-devuan

Fair enough but it deviates from, oh, a decade or so of previous
experience with Debian and Devuan netinst ISO image.  There was some
mention in the Devuan meeting notes for 2020-03-19 (cannot find it in
the devuan-dev ML archives yet) about perhaps "rectifying" this.

Keeping finger crossed ;-)

Hope this helps,
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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Mark,

Mark Hindley writes:

> On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:05:18AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> goli...@devuan.org writes:
>>
>> > Dear dev1ers,
>> >
>> > The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for review. The
>> > installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos can be downloaded
>> > from:
>> >
>> > https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/
>>
>> Kudos for all the hard work put in by all of you!
>>
>> > Please report any issues you may experience to this list,
>> > bugs.devuan.org,
>> > freenode irc #devuan-dev or the dev1galaxy.org forum.
>>
>> I prefer submitting issues at bugs.devuan.org to prevent them falling
>> thru the cracks :-) but I'm wondering whether they should go to
>>
>>  - debian-installer, or
>>  - installation-reports
>
> Olaf,
>
> Thanks.
>
> There is a devuan-installer pseudopackage which is probably most appropriate.

Thanks!  I hadn't considered the possibility of the installer
pseudopackage getting renamed (and have probably glossed over any
rename if it was mentioned on the lists.

Have just submitted bug#413 for the missing grub-efi-amd64 packages and
another for an I18N issue in (at least) the installer language selection
step.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Adrian Zaugg


On 19.03.20 20:37, aitor_czr wrote:
> As you know, you need to install the gpg key of gnuinos:
> 
> # curl http://packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos_pk.asc | apt-key add -

Please get your keys always over secured connections. Use https.

This is also bad in the docs for Devuan:
apt-get install devuan-keyring --allow-unauthenticated

Could you please change this to have a secured download or if not
possible a check of the downloaded keys? This is a must. Put something
like the following to the docs:

wget
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb

dpkg --install devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb


Regards, Adrian.
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Re: [DNG] kernel instability 4.9.0-12 with latest update

2020-03-22 Thread Marjorie Roome via Dng
Hi,

On 2 March I upgraded my ASCI kernel image from 4.9.0-6-amd64 from
4.9.0-12-amd64.

I've not noticed any problems but I've not been running anything CPU
intensive. My processor is a AMD Phenon II X4 910e.

What I did note is that when I did the upgrade it also brought in
modules firmware-linux-free (3.4) and irqbalance (1.1.0-2.3).

Could the problem be in irqbalance (1.1.0-2.3)? I upgraded from 4.9.0-
6-amd64 so I can't say if this version is new since 4.9.0-11-amd64?

"Irqbalance is a daemon that monitors the cpu load created by various 
interrupt sources and attempts to distribute that load over the 
available cpus in your system in an attempt to better balance system 
latency and throughput."

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> It happened again this morning after running the cpu heavy miner for
> about 14 hours. I don't recall it ever happening when I wasn't
> running
> that program, and having it happen now reaffirms for me that is the
> cause on my machine. Prior to the beowulf upgrade I had it running
> pretty much all the time for a few months without issue.
> 
> On Tue, 2020-03-17 at 14:26 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 09:39:21AM -0600, Gabe Stanton via Dng
> > wrote:
> > > One more thing, I'm actually on kernel version 4.19.0.8, but
> > > again, this issue started when I upgraded to beowulf.
> > 
> > I've been on beowulf for months now, doing the usual upgrades
> > every few weeks, but only started experiencing 
> > freezes in the past week or two.  I don't know what causes them.
> > 
> > hendrik@midwinter:~$ uname -a
> > Linux midwinter 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.88-1+deb9u1 (2018-
> > 05-
> > 07) x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > hendrik@midwinter:~$ 
> > 
> > -- hendrik
> > 
> > > On Tue, 2020-03-17 at 09:34 -0600, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote:
> > > > I've had problems with my machine freezing as well, same
> > > > symptoms,
> > > > ever
> > > > since upgrading to beowulf. The issue for me seems to happen
> > > > when
> > > > I
> > > > run
> > > > a cpu/ram heavy program, specifically a cpu cryptominer. I've
> > > > had
> > > > it
> > > > happen a number of times, always when mining with max 2 cores,
> > > > but
> > > > haven't dedicated the time to report it properly. I did look
> > > > through
> > > > various logs in /var/logs but I didn't see anything seemed
> > > > relevant
> > > > to
> > > > the problem.
> > > > 
> > > > I'll try to reproduce it today and send any relevant logs. 
> > > > 
> > > > What logs specifically would be relevant to this issue? 
> > > > 
> > > > Something relevant to the spectre/meltdown mitigations, I have
> > > > multithreading turned off in the bios and have had since the
> > > > vuln's
> > > > were revealed.
> > > > 
> > > > Also, 64 bit intel cpu here as well.
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, 2020-03-17 at 03:17 +, tuxd3v wrote:
> > > > > Hello Riccardo,
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Sat, 7 Mar 2020 12:19:52 +0100
> > > > > > Riccardo Mottola via Dng  >wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am using Devuan on an HP laptop with intel 64bit cpu.
> > > > > > Everything 
> > > > > > worked very well, I did a lot of compilation and it is very
> > > > > > stable, 
> > > > > > never had a freeze in months!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [0.10] smpboot: CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU
> > > > > > T7200  @
> > > > > > 2.00GHz 
> > > > > > (family: 0x6, model: 0xf, stepping: 0x6)
> > > > > > [0.10] Performance Events: PEBS fmt0-, Core2
> > > > > > events,
> > > > > > Intel
> > > > > > PMU 
> > > > > > driver.
> > > > > > [0.10] core: PEBS disabled due to CPU errata
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yesterday I installed a kernel upgrade, bad things happened
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 1) after the first reboot with the new kernel, I get up to
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > desktop, 
> > > > > > check out sources ad start building Arctic Fox browser,
> > > > > > come
> > > > > > back
> > > > > > after 
> > > > > > a time and find the machine completely frozen - no disk
> > > > > > activity,
> > > > > > no 
> > > > > > mouse possible, no errors. No response to power button
> > > > > > pressed
> > > > > > (had
> > > > > > to 
> > > > > > press 5 seconds)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 2) at reboot, machine freezes quite early in the boot
> > > > > > process
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 3) I retry and it still freezes
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I tried selecting in GRUB the older kernel and it boots. It
> > > > > > goes
> > > > > > past 
> > > > > > the last error, starts file system check/journal replay and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > machine 
> > > > > > seems stable again.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is the last good kernel version:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 4.9.0-11-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.189-3+deb9u2 (2019-11-11)
> > > > > > x86_64
> > > > > > GNU/Linux
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > the unstab