Re: [DNG] How to adjust mouse characteristics?

2021-02-04 Thread terryc
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 22:35:25 -0500
Steve Litt  wrote:

> 2) Use it on a high quality, clean mousepad.

Mousepad? 
We haven't use one since we purchased new custom computer desks for the
SOHO. The 'desk' is actually a slab of kitchen bench top covered
with a nice looking laminex(?) called yellow pepper or some such.

Works great with all optical mice and the only maintennce is an
occassional brush out of fluff in the optic and a desk wipe down with a
basic cleaner.

After 30+ years, the only problem is a growing worn patch from sliding
my wrist around.
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Re: [DNG] How to adjust mouse characteristics?

2021-02-04 Thread terryc
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 17:28:41 -0700
Fred  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Devuan Beowulf AMD64
> 
> Is there a configuration file somewhere that allows adjustment of
> mouse resolution and acceleration?  Gpm is not installed by default
> and I haven't been able to find anything (USB) mouse related.

Using Xfce4 under Applications -> Settings -> Mouse and trackpad
are all the mouse setings.

Otherwise on my Beowulf installation there are 462 files to do with
"mouse" covering its use in various programs. The few looked at didn't
seem to be text config files.

Since i do almost all my work in xterms or a gui, that covers my
needs.

Perhaps if you explained your need exactly, someone may be able to
assist.


FWIW,  my biggest problem with mice is finding one that
fits my hand comfortably and I've never found a solution by spending
$$$. Weirdly, since the days of mouse port cars. basic 'microsoft' mice
have always worked best. YMMV.

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Re: [DNG] How to adjust mouse characteristics?

2021-02-04 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Am 5. Februar 2021 04:35:25 MEZ schrieb Steve Litt :
> On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 17:28:41 -0700
> Fred  wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Devuan Beowulf AMD64
> > 
> > Is there a configuration file somewhere that allows adjustment of
> > mouse resolution and acceleration?  Gpm is not installed by default
> > and I haven't been able to find anything (USB) mouse related.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Fred
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> Ever since dinosaurs roamed the earth (late 1990's), Linux has had a
> problem with mouse pointers requiring too much mouse travel to
> accomplish too little mouse pointer travel. Early attempts were made
> with acceleration, turning mousing into a golf game, with a drive, a
> green shot, and then a couple putts. Later they had a "resolution"
> property, but that vanished some time around the end of the housing
> bubble.
> 
> What I've found is best is:
> 
> 1) Use a good quality, high resolution mouse.
> 
> 2) Use it on a high quality, clean mousepad.
> 
> 3) Keep the led/light detector clean
> 
> I've found that "Blue Trace" mice work best with Linux. They reliably
> report new positions every quarter of a human hair diameter (well, I
> never measured it, but that's how it seemed). Best I ever saw was the
> following:
> 
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Blackweb-Bluetrace-Weighted-Mouse/44459955
> 
> Unfortunately, I think it stopped being manufactured.
> 
> Targus makes a blue trace mouse:
> 
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Targus-Wireless-BlueTrace-Mouse-AMW50US/14262061
> 
> But annoyingly the Targus mouse shuts itself off after a few minutes of
> inactivity, so you have to physically click on and off on the little
> fingernail switch on the bottom to use it if you spent that last 10
> minutes reading a page instead of mousing. It's disconcerting. But when
> you mouse, it works well, and I've found you don't need any further
> sensitivity enhancement.
> 
> SteveT


Using the libinput drivers, my trackball is easily (and fine grained) 
configurable in the xorg.conf under /etc/X11/ or /usr/share/X11/.

As long as the specifications for pointer devices are met, I doubt that make 
and model of the device have serious impact on its configurability - but I must 
confess that I have been happily sticking with this marble thing for many years 
now. 

As already mentioned by Ken in another reply, the arch wiki (once again) is an 
outstanding resource regarding this topic.

Of course the performance can be improved by keeping things somewhat clean: No 
more "emergency cigarettes" from turning the keyboard upside down ;-)

libre Grüße,
Florian


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Re: [DNG] How to adjust mouse characteristics?

2021-02-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 17:28:41 -0700
Fred  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Devuan Beowulf AMD64
> 
> Is there a configuration file somewhere that allows adjustment of
> mouse resolution and acceleration?  Gpm is not installed by default
> and I haven't been able to find anything (USB) mouse related.
> 
> Best regards,
> Fred

Hi Fred,

Ever since dinosaurs roamed the earth (late 1990's), Linux has had a
problem with mouse pointers requiring too much mouse travel to
accomplish too little mouse pointer travel. Early attempts were made
with acceleration, turning mousing into a golf game, with a drive, a
green shot, and then a couple putts. Later they had a "resolution"
property, but that vanished some time around the end of the housing
bubble.

What I've found is best is:

1) Use a good quality, high resolution mouse.

2) Use it on a high quality, clean mousepad.

3) Keep the led/light detector clean

I've found that "Blue Trace" mice work best with Linux. They reliably
report new positions every quarter of a human hair diameter (well, I
never measured it, but that's how it seemed). Best I ever saw was the
following:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Blackweb-Bluetrace-Weighted-Mouse/44459955

Unfortunately, I think it stopped being manufactured.

Targus makes a blue trace mouse:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Targus-Wireless-BlueTrace-Mouse-AMW50US/14262061

But annoyingly the Targus mouse shuts itself off after a few minutes of
inactivity, so you have to physically click on and off on the little
fingernail switch on the bottom to use it if you spent that last 10
minutes reading a page instead of mousing. It's disconcerting. But when
you mouse, it works well, and I've found you don't need any further
sensitivity enhancement.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times
http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive
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Re: [DNG] How to adjust mouse characteristics?

2021-02-04 Thread kdibble
 On Thu, 04 Feb 2021 16:28:16 -0800 Fred  wrote 


Hello,

Devuan Beowulf AMD64

Is there a configuration file somewhere that allows adjustment of mouse 
resolution and acceleration?  Gpm is not installed by default and I 
haven't been able to find anything (USB) mouse related.

Best regards,
Fred
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It is my understanding that persistent changes to xorg settings can be 
accomplished by adding files

to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ directory.



Temporary changes can be made using xset.



There are examples in the archlinux wiki at 
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration



Hope this helps.



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[DNG] How to adjust mouse characteristics?

2021-02-04 Thread Fred

Hello,

Devuan Beowulf AMD64

Is there a configuration file somewhere that allows adjustment of mouse 
resolution and acceleration?  Gpm is not installed by default and I 
haven't been able to find anything (USB) mouse related.


Best regards,
Fred
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Re: [DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9

2021-02-04 Thread Florian Zieboll via Dng
Am 4. Februar 2021 18:15:06 MEZ schrieb g4sra via Dng :
> Does anyone know how to re-enable a Synaptics Touchpad in Linux after it has 
> been turned off in Windows using Fn+F9 ?

If this key combo really changed something "in hardware", i assume that a "hard 
reset" of the notebook(?!) should solve the issue...

Usually, this is accomplished by removing all power sources and periphery, and 
then holding down the power button for 15-20 seconds. The idea is to remove any 
stored electricity (from ac adapter, battery, capacitors) to clear all 
non-persistent storage.

Your devices miles may vary, the manual should mention it.

libre grüße,
Florian


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Re: [DNG] install in private partition scheme ?

2021-02-04 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 2/3/21 4:43 PM, Radisson via Dng wrote:
> 
> Am 03.02.21 um 02:59 schrieb fsmithred via Dng:
>>
>> You can have a separate /home or /boot, but if you want to  re-use an old
>> /home partition, you must do that manually after the install.
> I would like to setup a server, with separate /var and raid and so on. The
> box i use for testing is clean, no need to be careful.
> What is the recomended way to create a complex setup and install ?
> 
> It seems that the way via USB stick is not the right idea.
> 

The usb stick is not the problem. The live installer won't do what you
want. Use one of the installer isos - netinstall or server iso are best
choices for what you want, but even the desktop dvd will do it.

fsmithred

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[DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9

2021-02-04 Thread g4sra via Dng
Does anyone know how to re-enable a Synaptics Touchpad in Linux after it has 
been turned off in Windows using Fn+F9 ?


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