Re: [DNG] snetaid debs...
Greetings Steve. I have recently decided to program in Lazarus and Firebird, which is a very good and free database manager. If you want I can give you a hand on this issue. If so, you better throw me private since for this list it would be off topic. You can see what I have done in the links below my signature. Warm greetings -- Ismael Devuan User: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan Web Site: https://gitlab.uic.cu/ismael.donis/sistema-de-contabilidad-general/ http://www.sisconge.byethost15.com/ - Original Message - From: "Steve Litt" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 11:59 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] snetaid debs... Edward Bartolo via Dng said on Tue, 19 Oct 2021 09:53:52 +0200 Hi Golinux, If Devuan users have other alternatives to my project, it is a pleasure to know. Hi Edward, I find your use of Lazarus interesting and would like to explore that with you. I think a network-manager type thing is the wrong place for Lazarus, but there are plenty of right ones. I'd love to do a Lazarus app that connects to a database, with several tables. But I don't know how. The only Lazarus app I have is an alarm clock, which I might be able to share with you if all my source is still present and accounted for. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!
> On 20 Oct 2021, at 20:45, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > > I really looked into snapshotting but the etckeeper commit messages also > list which packages changed, like so (after I "beautified" the logging a > bit to suit my taste and needs) > > commit dd9602a525e590f24ec19904248938e6ab76e999 (HEAD -> master) > Author: olaf > Date: Mon Oct 11 21:48:25 2021 +0900 > > Committing changes in /etc after APT run > > Package changes: > - debconf 1.5.71 all > + debconf 1.5.71+deb10u1 all > - libgssapi-krb5-2 1.17-3+deb10u2 amd64 > + libgssapi-krb5-2 1.17-3+deb10u3 amd64 > - libk5crypto3 1.17-3+deb10u2 amd64 > + libk5crypto3 1.17-3+deb10u3 amd64 > - libkrb5-3 1.17-3+deb10u2 amd64 > + libkrb5-3 1.17-3+deb10u3 amd64 > - libkrb5support0 1.17-3+deb10u2 amd64 > + libkrb5support0 1.17-3+deb10u3 amd64 > - libmariadb3 1:10.3.29-0+deb10u1 amd64 > + libmariadb3 1:10.3.31-0+deb10u1 amd64 > > which gives me a chance to pinpoint any culprits and submit bug reports > if necessary with detailed info on the changed packages. Is this formatting configured in etckeeper or gitconfig? I would like to try and replicate. It looks very useful. Thanks ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!
Hi Curtis, Curtis Maurand via Dng writes: > On 10/18/21 4:36 PM, Steve Litt wrote: >> Olaf Meeuwissen said on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:52:05 +0900 >> >> >>> I keep track of /etc with etckeeper which puts that directory under git >>> version control. That means I can always track back changes to package >>> updates or me mucking around there and see exactly what changed. That >>> can be very helpful if an `apt upgrade` broke stuff, more so because I >>> track "testing" ;-) >> Nice!!! > I run on a BTRFS file system and /etc is in it's on sub volume. I just > take a snapshot of it. restoration is as easy as overwriting a file or > folder from the snapshot. I store the snapshots both locally and > externally. Works great. I handle /var/lib/mysql that way, too. I really looked into snapshotting but the etckeeper commit messages also list which packages changed, like so (after I "beautified" the logging a bit to suit my taste and needs) commit dd9602a525e590f24ec19904248938e6ab76e999 (HEAD -> master) Author: olaf Date: Mon Oct 11 21:48:25 2021 +0900 Committing changes in /etc after APT run Package changes: - debconf 1.5.71 all + debconf 1.5.71+deb10u1 all - libgssapi-krb5-2 1.17-3+deb10u2 amd64 + libgssapi-krb5-2 1.17-3+deb10u3 amd64 - libk5crypto3 1.17-3+deb10u2 amd64 + libk5crypto3 1.17-3+deb10u3 amd64 - libkrb5-3 1.17-3+deb10u2 amd64 + libkrb5-3 1.17-3+deb10u3 amd64 - libkrb5support0 1.17-3+deb10u2 amd64 + libkrb5support0 1.17-3+deb10u3 amd64 - libmariadb3 1:10.3.29-0+deb10u1 amd64 + libmariadb3 1:10.3.31-0+deb10u1 amd64 which gives me a chance to pinpoint any culprits and submit bug reports if necessary with detailed info on the changed packages. When tracking "testing" and doing regular, say weekly or even more frequent, updates (maybe even via unattended-upgrades), you don't always notice issues rightaway. Being able to track things down to the upgrade that introduced the issue retroactively in this kind of detail helps a lot. The commit itself has the byte-by-byte changes that may point to the root cause of the issue and the commit logs also let me check very easily if I modified related files myself for some reason. Yes, I know that /var/log/apt/ has some of this info but I find my commit messages a bit easier to parse. Besides, they won't be rotated into oblivion by logrotate ;-) Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera and ntpd/openntpd/chrony???
Hi Simon, Simon Walter writes: > On 2021-10-20 15:09, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: >> Hmm not sure where you take information from: >> >> https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=file=bin%2Fntpd=submit >> >> https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package=ntp=1:4.2.8p15+dfsg-1 >> >> perhaps a missing crucial "apt-get update" ? > > Aha! ntpd isn't in the repos. ntp is. ;) Thanks for the hint, Ralph! I can also recommend apt-file search bin/ntpd but that requires installing apt-file. BTW, my search made me decide to go with ntpsec instead of ntp. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera and ntpd/openntpd/chrony???
On 2021-10-20 15:09, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Hmm not sure where you take information from: > > https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=file=bin%2Fntpd=submit > > https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package=ntp=1:4.2.8p15+dfsg-1 > > perhaps a missing crucial "apt-get update" ? > Aha! ntpd isn't in the repos. ntp is. ;) Thanks for the hint, Ralph! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera and ntpd/openntpd/chrony???
Hmm not sure where you take information from: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=file=bin%2Fntpd=submit https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package=ntp=1:4.2.8p15+dfsg-1 perhaps a missing crucial "apt-get update" ? regards, Ralph. On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:56:42 +0900 Simon Walter wrote: > Hi all, ntpd doesn't seem to be in the default repos. What is the > recommended NTP daemon? I've never used openntpd nor chrony. > > Thanks, > > Simon > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
