Re: [DNG] WAY OFFTOPIC: Idiot electricians: was: Is it dead yet?
On 10/27/21 3:20 PM, Steve Litt wrote: True story, from more than a decade before Linus made Linux... 1979. I was a consumer audio repair guy at Pacific Stereo in Chicago. I was paid commission on every amp, receiver, turntable, tapedeck, etc that I repaired. No repairs, no pay. Since the mid 1980's, I learned it pays to have a: Electrical Receptacle Wall Plug AC Outlet Ground Tester You can pick one up for under $20. You can cannot always guarantee it was wired right or has not been damaged. I have seen lot of computers, printers and etc. malfunction due electrical outlet problems. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] WAY OFFTOPIC: Idiot electricians: was: Is it dead yet?
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 15:20:22 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > It's the kind of grudge you can keep for 42 years. > ... > > Pay up, guys, wherever you are. Oh god, now I have to add to the story time. That same guy who was flipping a breaker was doing it so fast that sometimes my system wouldn't even shut off. At some point my computer wouldn't turn back on again for some time. I later learned there was undocumented magic in my power supply which forced the system to stay off if it kept cycling like that. I never realized there was damage being done. This same guy also cleaned my computer. He opened and vacuumed it.. He also removed the heatsink to make sure it was completely clean.. .. and he didn't remove the dust covers to wipe them. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
* Haines Brown [2021-10-27 07:47 -0400]: > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:24:08PM +0200, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > > Hello Haines, > > > > Your issue isn't about the graphic card, but probably linked to your > > screen. I > > do not know what a Gigabyte Z590 machine is, and can't look it up at the > > moment, > > but I would suggest that you'd research compatibility feedbacks for your > > hardware. You'll find something if the machine is being used by members of > > the > > FOSS community and there are serious issues. > > Ludovic, thanks for the feedback. The Z590 chipset is new (March > 2021), but I did see that someone had installed linux on it and so > assumed it could be done. AKAIK the chipset Z590 needs at least a 5.13 kernel. A 5.14.14 runs fine here. > I don't see Gigabyte's specification of the > video chip. > > The lspci command returns > > VGA compatible controller: Intel ... Device 4c8a (rev 04) > (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) The Intel kernel driver in combination with the Intel firmware should be perfect. Elimar -- 355/113: Not the famous irrational number pi, but an incredible simulation! -unknown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera upgrade broke stunnel4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, On Wed, 2021-10-27 at 11:39 -0400, Jeremy via Dng wrote: > I upgraded to chimaera from beowulf and rebooted. > > Since, my stunnel4 services won't run. The port establishes from the client, > but then immediately closes. > stunnel4 log prints: > /usr/bin/stunnel: error while loading shared libraries: libgssapi_krb5.so.2: > failed to map segment from shared object > > Google told me to reinstall stunnel4 and libkrb5-3. I did that-- no > difference. > > I do see /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 which is a symlink to > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2.2 # dpkg --search /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 libgssapi-krb5-2:amd64: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 > Nothing else has changed. Any hints? Reinstall libgssapi-krb5-2 instead. With best regards, b. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEumC8IPN+WURNbSUAE2VyCRPS8i0FAmF5yRAACgkQE2VyCRPS 8i33jRAAom+CDixNiky5q9/7sumPIf7LTL3ROjskYVHcd59RGODVJiVekUzmf1ee NIEHZoBCVtLCw4tlKdXPV/olz03b/xHU7OHmmGiDtscnudyCZxx1TY0lfl55rpQa KiEGuYmy1Cr14HMSa2vV+xkaAh6KqQ0ngbdFOlMtCEogVGgA1alIkjY0+FqSGG0/ B7zxLEzeqpRe7O99sn3BYfybCU9lZ3th4iNR6gewKeqwKS9cZKfB3rN6D4Ao8o/c 19Z+hgX0SFe0iC56WZtKyDHvmlGlRaSnQ+XF3Efh9FEG7WY431mJTPXVlI22/T5K u2LYLQoK3s+5h5oN/+q+pMQBTQSNsEWWT1NscXRszn0EdAA/UL5WZ1bkFBMXuMrq YfWl7gB6CFKKzJSDP+VnoOldAqCb67WdJot4sVzcfFUX65dv3/yR3ZZ8qjlg6+tl 1EaQ94b0R49z+zM80Bh10p6P+0yy8q02v5u+MCSytqiqaIdR4Rm0iJ+ZpJc1toYp JXH/oxzqBHr1DjfY9+WF3I9Z0QV3pUztYmpVtrebe3HWRqH3HvQZ+K2iM0ilOX4f aFYJDqXyxVgI0DC4ktGkYlNDsw7dUxLpt7F4KTOU1Jvru+rNPjt7ZNFP6tlrDRFc +Yja0O8n1ROYNOhIkiVn+LnSjbeau8BxTDvSIy1FgOa8Qu8VMMg= =TMG9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video (SUCCESS)
Once I knew that the issue was kernel support for MB hardware, upgrading to a backport kernel made sense. I did so, and the resolution is now where I want it. I thank everyone for their help and patience. -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] polkitd not starting after update
I just got hit by a nasty problem: /usr/libexec/polkitd does not start any more. I updated an older system (chimaera, but was unused for ~ 6 months) to the latest chimaera. I have to start it manually from rc.local. The same happened to udisksd, I have to start it manually from rc.local after polkitd. Does anybody know where I can find a clue why polkitd does not start? Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
Hendrik Boom said on Wed, 27 Oct 2021 14:34:36 -0400 >On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 02:19:09PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: >... >... >> >> Sorry I thought I has said that I had no graphics card. I'm assuing >> that installing a graphic card is unlikely to get a resolution other >> than the deefault vga. > >On some machines I've had, the motherboard starts up checking whether >there's a graphics card and if so it uses it *instead* of the built-in >one. When that happened I had no ability to use both graphics >channels to, for example, use two monitor. I think the bios provides you with a way to specify which video source. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] WAY OFFTOPIC: Idiot electricians: was: Is it dead yet?
onefang said on Wed, 27 Oct 2021 17:13:38 +1000 >Oops, sorry, replied directly to spiralofhope instead of the list. > >On 2021-10-26 22:35:57, spiralofhope wrote: >> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 23:15:15 -0400 >> Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: [snip] >> >> Apparently a jackass flipping breakers off and on quickly had >> stressed it out. >> > >I've had that sort of arsehole in the past to. True story, from more than a decade before Linus made Linux... 1979. I was a consumer audio repair guy at Pacific Stereo in Chicago. I was paid commission on every amp, receiver, turntable, tapedeck, etc that I repaired. No repairs, no pay. Pacific Stereo provided their repairpeople (we were called "techs") with high quality service benches with every conceivable tool we'd ever need: Oscilloscopes, signal generators, high input impedance voltmeters, distortion analyzers, variable voltage transformers (variacs) and lots more. Unknown to us techs, unknown because we weren't told, some electricians were doing work on the building's electrical system. These guys were wild and woolly cowboys: No need to tell everybody to shut off their stuff or shut the breakers off. They were tough. They worked live. They disconnected a neutral wire. For the 10% of you who are "pure code, no hardware" types of people, most homes, stores and apartment buildings work on a 2 phase system: 120 volts on each phase, with half the building on one side and half the building on the other. Each outlet has a connection to a "neutral" header wire, guaranteed to be at 0 volts, to make sure that each phase is 120 volts, no more, no less. If that neutral disappears, the two phases become one series circuit, meaning that the phase with the higher resistance gets more voltage than 120, and the side with less resistance gets less than 120. How much more or less depends on the difference between the phase resistances. I was on the higher resistance phase. All of a sudden, our fluorescent lights blazed like the sun. There was a ominous hum coming from just about everything. Then the popping started, as the capacitors in our test equipment began exploding. We unplugged everything as fast as we could, but the damage was done. Thousands of 1979 dollars worth of test equipment had blown caps or worse, as the ensuing shorts or opens took fuses, transformers or semiconductors with them. We never got even a "sorry" from the electricians. They walked out with union scale pay (more than our most productive techs made) for the time they were on premises. Must be nice. I spent the next day and a half repairing all my bench's test equipment. At no pay, because I wasn't repairing consumer audio. And I'd never had a moment's training on fixing test equipment, and as I remember we didn't have service manuals for that test equipment. We just did what we had to do to be able to get back to work again. A day and a half with no pay, and customers screaming "why are you so slow to fix my stereo?" It's the kind of grudge you can keep for 42 years. My fantasy is to meet those guys and make them give me that day's pay, plus interest. Those guys were making about $20.00/hr in 1979, so that's about $160.00 in 1979 dollars, or $1241.60 today assuming my ability to safely make 5% on my money, which was true for many of those years, including the insane runups of 1983-2000, and 2009-present. Pay up, guys, wherever you are. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 02:19:09PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: ... ... > > Sorry I thought I has said that I had no graphics card. I'm assuing > that installing a graphic card is unlikely to get a resolution other > than the deefault vga. On some machines I've had, the motherboard starts up checking whether there's a graphics card and if so it uses it *instead* of the built-in one. When that happened I had no ability to use both graphics channels to, for example, use two monitor. I don't know if your motherboard works like this. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] What is libc5-i686 | lib32gcc1 (proliant package dependencies)
Hi Alessandro, On 27/10/21 18:19, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: I have both libc6:i386 and lib32gcc-s1 (on an AMD 64bit machine). libc6-i686:i386 is tagged 'rc' transitional dummy package. gcc-multilib maybe? This is useful to cross-compile i386 applications under amd64. Cheers, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] What is libc5-i686 | lib32gcc1 (proliant package dependencies)
On Wed 27/Oct/2021 18:54:16 +0200 karl wrote: For libc5, run "man libc" and look under the heading "Linux libc". Damn my fatty fingers, it was libc6-i686. (Not that it is much newer, it was in stretch.) Thanks for pointing it out anyway. The hp-health package itself is dated 2019 in the repository[*]. However, the top entry in the changelog is dated Fri, 27 Aug 2010. The third entry there is of December 2009 and says: * Add dependency on lib32gcc1 for amd64 to avoid segfault when hpasmcli exits. That software used to work under Beowulf. I don't know why it was damaged during the upgrade to Chimaera. I'm trying and reinstall it, because I know of no other ways to read some hardware-specific values. If 32bit libraries didn't have incompatible changes, they may still work. Is there anything I can check before forcing the install? TIA for any hint Ale -- [*] https://downloads.linux.hpe.com/SDR/repo/mcp/pool/non-free/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 06:11:20PM +0200, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2021, Haines Brown wrote: > > > > > Ludovic, thanks for the feedback. The Z590 chipset is new (March > > 2021), but I did see that someone had installed linux on it and so > > assumed it could be done. I don't see Gigabyte's specification of the > > video chip. > > > > The lspci command returns > > > > VGA compatible controller: Intel ... Device 4c8a (rev 04) > > (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) > > > > I don't care about the model of your motherboard, that's not really relevant. > Actually, no motherboard is very relevant anymore. You need to care about the > chips installed on them: iGPU/GPU/CPU. We still don't have that information, > and > we still don't know if your hardware is properly supported by the kernel, > firmware and drivers available from debian. Unfortunately I do not know how to identity the graphics chip, for the Gigabyte spec page does not provide it. > If your chip isn't yet supported by the kernel (which is doubtful for intel), > it'll fallback to known standards that every manufacturer should support. If > your display driver shows VESA, that's what I'm talking about. Since the > kernel > shipped by debian is usually old, check the backports and see if that version > will help you. But I first need to know if the backport kernel supports the graphics chip. There is a 15.5.rc6 backport for Debian. It seems worthwhile to try it out, but I don't know how to tell apt-get to intstall a backported kernel from a Debian site. > If there is something being displayed on your screen, you then have something > capable of computing graphics. I have no clue about the configuration of your > hardware, what's installed, what's available or not available. I don't know if > you have a GPU or if you don't. Sorry I thought I has said that I had no graphics card. I'm assuing that installing a graphic card is unlikely to get a resolution other than the deefault vga. > What is made available to you are both your screen capability and your graphic > card. The graphic card will do it's best do compute an image, and that's kind > of > all it does. There needs a synchronicity between the GPU and the screen > polling > rate. > > Your monitor carries an EDID (Extended Display Identification Data) which has > all the necessary information for the source (Xorg and co.) how to compute > compatible modes. If that can't be read or understood properly, you'll have a > limited display support or nothing at all. The software running on your > computer > will then be able to tell the GPU how and when to generate an image. > > I you want to know more about how to display an image on a screen, I invite > you > to watch Ben Eater's instructive videos: > > * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iURr3NBprc=498s > * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUTHtNrpwiI -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet? -- SOLVED
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 12:15:13 -0400 Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: > Machine works fine now, running devuan ascii. That's good news. I guess memory can "wear out", but hopefully the memory wasn't damaged by some fault in the motherboard or power. I hope your new memory is safe. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet?
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 09:49:20 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Took a while to get them to play nice. Seems that only one > configuration of sticks in the 4 slots would work. Hardware . . . > grr . . . When there's a problem, the hardware guys blame software, and the software guys blame hardware. :) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Chimaera upgrade broke stunnel4
I upgraded to chimaera from beowulf and rebooted. Since, my stunnel4 services won't run. The port establishes from the client, but then immediately closes. stunnel4 log prints: /usr/bin/stunnel: error while loading shared libraries: libgssapi_krb5.so.2: failed to map segment from shared object Google told me to reinstall stunnel4 and libkrb5-3. I did that-- no difference. I do see /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2 which is a symlink to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgssapi_krb5.so.2.2 Nothing else has changed. Any hints? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] What is libc5-i686 | lib32gcc1 (proliant package dependencies)
For libc5, run "man libc" and look under the heading "Linux libc". The latest libc5 package is from 2003 in debian-archive, from what I can see: debian-archive/debian/pool/main/libc/libc/libc5_5.4.46-15_i386.deb That is within Debian 3.0, Woody, timeline. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] What is libc5-i686 | lib32gcc1 (proliant package dependencies)
Hi all, I have a .deb package from HP (hp-health) that has this requirement, and doesn't install because of it. It got damaged somehow during the last dist-upgrade. I think I'd better re-install it. I have both libc6:i386 and lib32gcc-s1 (on an AMD 64bit machine). libc6-i686:i386 is tagged 'rc' transitional dummy package. HP doesn't seem to be inclined to update their support packages. Should I force the install, rebuild the package with a different DEBIAN/control, or something else? BTW, is the latter option just dpkg-deb -R followed by dpkg-deb -b? Thanks for any hint Ale -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet? -- SOLVED
Not dead, but just injured. Replaced two 312M RAM cards with one faster 2G RAM card. Old RAM defective; tech told me that its speed was actually mismatched to the rest of the system, slowing it down. Of course "defective" was the crucial issue, not speed. Machine works fine now, running devuan ascii. Next plan: upgrade to current chaemera in stages Thank you for all the testing suggestions. They really helped narrow down the problem. Not mention moral support. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021, Haines Brown wrote: Ludovic, thanks for the feedback. The Z590 chipset is new (March 2021), but I did see that someone had installed linux on it and so assumed it could be done. I don't see Gigabyte's specification of the video chip. The lspci command returns VGA compatible controller: Intel ... Device 4c8a (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) I don't care about the model of your motherboard, that's not really relevant. Actually, no motherboard is very relevant anymore. You need to care about the chips installed on them: iGPU/GPU/CPU. We still don't have that information, and we still don't know if your hardware is properly supported by the kernel, firmware and drivers available from debian. If your chip isn't yet supported by the kernel (which is doubtful for intel), it'll fallback to known standards that every manufacturer should support. If your display driver shows VESA, that's what I'm talking about. Since the kernel shipped by debian is usually old, check the backports and see if that version will help you. The non-free and contrib were already specified in my sources.list. I had not installed firmware-linux but doing so made no diference. Too bad. You imply it would do me no good to get and install a video card. That came as a surprise. I had assumed that it was the card is that made the dpi modes accessible. If there is something being displayed on your screen, you then have something capable of computing graphics. I have no clue about the configuration of your hardware, what's installed, what's available or not available. I don't know if you have a GPU or if you don't. What is made available to you are both your screen capability and your graphic card. The graphic card will do it's best do compute an image, and that's kind of all it does. There needs a synchronicity between the GPU and the screen polling rate. Your monitor carries an EDID (Extended Display Identification Data) which has all the necessary information for the source (Xorg and co.) how to compute compatible modes. If that can't be read or understood properly, you'll have a limited display support or nothing at all. The software running on your computer will then be able to tell the GPU how and when to generate an image. I you want to know more about how to display an image on a screen, I invite you to watch Ben Eater's instructive videos: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iURr3NBprc=498s * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUTHtNrpwiI ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet?
On 2021-10-27 00:35, spiralofhope wrote: This may be obvious, but a memory testing suggestion: Remove all but one stick With that one stick in a particular slot, memtest If failed, repeat with each single stick in that same slot If all fail, move up a slot and test each stick I know it's a pain, but it might determine if the any/all memory sticks or if the motherboard are bad. I am hardware-phobic but I can do a few things like switch out ram. Some years ago, I got some shiny new sticks to increase my ram to 8 gb. They all seated well but nada. I switched some around several times. Still nada. By this time, I'd had enough, packed it up and took it to my local hardware guy. He removed them all all and basically did the above procedure. Took a while to get them to play nice. Seems that only one configuration of sticks in the 4 slots would work. Hardware . . . grr . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 07:19:06AM -0500, o1bigtenor wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 4:32 PM Haines Brown wrote: > > > I just installed Chimera RC on a Gigabyte Z590 machine (incidentally > > it looks like I could autoconfigure wireless with providing firmware). > > When I installed xorg and fluxobox, the display was low resolution. > > Apparently it is a low resolution default. lxrandr offers no other > > accessible resolution. > > > > I here paste the return of inxi on my current machine and then on the > > installation of Chimaera. Neighter machine has a v ideo card. I'm not > > sure that to make of this. > > > > The old machine with good resolution > > > >Graphics: > > Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: > > kernel > > bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5912 > > Display: server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: > > fbdev > > failed: vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz s-dpi: 96 > > OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 630 (Kaby Lake GT2) > > v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes > > > > On new machine with poor revoltuion > > > > Graphics: > > Device-l: Intel vendor: Gigabyte driver: N/A bus ID 00:02.0 > > chip ID: 8886:4c8a > > Display: serve: X.Org 1.20.11 drive: loaded: vesa > > unloaded: fbdev,modesetting resolution: 1024x768-76Hz s-dpi: 96 > > OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLM 11.0.1 256 b its) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 > > compat-w 3.1 direct render: Yes > > > > Help intrpreting this would be much appreciated. > > > > > xrandr will be your friend > > You use xrandr to define set and implement your monitors. The problem is that xxrandr sees only one mode $ xrandr -q xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default Current, minumum and maximum are all 1024 x 768. Does this confirm Ludocico's suggestion that a video card will be of no help? The card has nothing to work with. I suppose gamma correction has nothing to do with dpi, but failure to get gamma correction suggests to me a firmware problem. > $ xrandr --verbose That returns the information I got above with $ xrandr -q > put at least the first 15 or 20 lines in your reply please. Identifier: 0x522 Timestamp: 3222412 Subpixel:unknown Clones: CRTC:0 CRTCs: 0 Transform : 1.00 (0 for each color) non-desktop: 0 supported 0, 1 then current resolution -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:24:08PM +0200, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > Hello Haines, > > Your issue isn't about the graphic card, but probably linked to your screen. I > do not know what a Gigabyte Z590 machine is, and can't look it up at the > moment, > but I would suggest that you'd research compatibility feedbacks for your > hardware. You'll find something if the machine is being used by members of the > FOSS community and there are serious issues. Ludovic, thanks for the feedback. The Z590 chipset is new (March 2021), but I did see that someone had installed linux on it and so assumed it could be done. I don't see Gigabyte's specification of the video chip. The lspci command returns VGA compatible controller: Intel ... Device 4c8a (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) > On the other hand, make sure that all firmware and drivers for your hardware > are > installed. To do that, make sure you have enabled the non-free and contrib > channels in your /etc/apt/sources.list. Then install firmware-linux. Someone running ubuntu lacked video and had luck by installing the 5.10.0-1019-oem kernel and updating some drivers to testing. But that was no screen at all, and others don't report the problem. The non-free and contrib were already specified in my sources.list. I had not installed firmware-linux but doing so made no diference. > That's for the firmware, as for the drivers, you'll need > xserver-xorg-video-all, that should install everything you need and > then more. You may also need xserver-xorg-video-intel if you GPU is > intel. They were both already installed. You imply it would do me no good to get and install a video card. That came as a surprise. I had assumed that it was the card is that made the dpi modes accessible. > On Tue, 26 Oct 2021, Haines Brown wrote: > > > I just installed Chimera RC on a Gigabyte Z590 machine (incidentally > > it looks like I could autoconfigure wireless with providing firmware). > > When I installed xorg and fluxobox, the display was low resolution. > > Apparently it is a low resolution default. lxrandr offers no other > > accessible resolution. > > > > I here paste the return of inxi on my current machine and then on the > > installation of Chimaera. Neighter machine has a v ideo card. I'm not > > sure that to make of this. > > > > The old machine with good resolution > > > > Graphics: > > Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel > > bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5912 > > Display: server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: > > fbdev > > failed: vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz s-dpi: 96 > > OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 630 (Kaby Lake GT2) > > v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes > > > > On new machine with poor revoltuion > > > > Graphics: > >Device-l: Intel vendor: Gigabyte driver: N/A bus ID 00:02.0 > >chip ID: 8886:4c8a > >Display: serve: X.Org 1.20.11 drive: loaded: vesa > >unloaded: fbdev,modesetting resolution: 1024x768-76Hz s-dpi: 96 > >OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLM 11.0.1 256 b its) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 > >compat-w 3.1 direct render: Yes > > > > Help intrpreting this would be much appreciated. > > > > -- > > Haines Brown -- Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Chimaera install: only low resolution video
Hello Haines, Your issue isn't about the graphic card, but probably linked to your screen. I do not know what a Gigabyte Z590 machine is, and can't look it up at the moment, but I would suggest that you'd research compatibility feedbacks for your hardware. You'll find something if the machine is being used by members of the FOSS community and there are serious issues. On the other hand, make sure that all firmware and drivers for your hardware are installed. To do that, make sure you have enabled the non-free and contrib channels in your /etc/apt/sources.list. Then install firmware-linux. It's a meta-package that should install a broad range of firmware, both free and non-free. That's for the firmware, as for the drivers, you'll need xserver-xorg-video-all, that should install everything you need and then more. You may also need xserver-xorg-video-intel if you GPU is intel. Don't forget to reboot! Cheers, Ludovic On Tue, 26 Oct 2021, Haines Brown wrote: I just installed Chimera RC on a Gigabyte Z590 machine (incidentally it looks like I could autoconfigure wireless with providing firmware). When I installed xorg and fluxobox, the display was low resolution. Apparently it is a low resolution default. lxrandr offers no other accessible resolution. I here paste the return of inxi on my current machine and then on the installation of Chimaera. Neighter machine has a v ideo card. I'm not sure that to make of this. The old machine with good resolution Graphics: Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5912 Display: server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev failed: vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz s-dpi: 96 OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 630 (Kaby Lake GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes On new machine with poor revoltuion Graphics: Device-l: Intel vendor: Gigabyte driver: N/A bus ID 00:02.0 chip ID: 8886:4c8a Display: serve: X.Org 1.20.11 drive: loaded: vesa unloaded: fbdev,modesetting resolution: 1024x768-76Hz s-dpi: 96 OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLM 11.0.1 256 b its) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 compat-w 3.1 direct render: Yes Help intrpreting this would be much appreciated. -- Haines Brown signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet?
Oops, sorry, replied directly to spiralofhope instead of the list. On 2021-10-26 22:35:57, spiralofhope wrote: > On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 23:15:15 -0400 > Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: > > > I'll have to replace the RAM, I guess. Or find out what memory bus > > is failing. > > I know this sounds odd, but I had memory errors galore which were > solved by a new power supply. > > Apparently a jackass flipping breakers off and on quickly had stressed > it out. Linux worked without complaint but Windows 8.1 occasionally > bluescreened. If you have a spare PSU, try that first. I've had that sort of arsehole in the past to. A paranoid guy that thought everyone else in the house was an undercover cop spying on him. He would kill the power to the house every now and then. > This may be obvious, but a memory testing suggestion: > > Remove all but one stick > > With that one stick in a particular slot, memtest > > If failed, repeat with each single stick in that same slot > > If all fail, move up a slot and test each stick > > I know it's a pain, but it might determine if the any/all memory sticks > or if the motherboard are bad. I've had to do that in the past, the result was that I found out it was one particular slot in the mother board, all the RAM was fine. Replaced the motherboard, all was fine. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Is it dead yet?
Hendrik Boom via Dng said on Tue, 26 Oct 2021 23:15:15 -0400 >Chimaera didn't help, though the symptoms changed. >I booted from the chimaera live desktop, and it started looking >hopeful, but before much was running it had a kernel panic -- attempt >to kill init. Yes, I checked the checksum on the download. >And when I used chimaera to boot another computer (a Purism laptop) it >worked flawlessly. Just for fun --- is your video hardware nVidia? NVidia hardware, its proprietary drivers, and its reverse-engineered FOSS drivers make all sorts of nasty intermittent problems. You can get a good, simple, modern Radeon card pretty cheap these days. No good for gaming, but I watch videos with it just fine, and it has no fan. If replacing nVidea with Radeon doesn't work, I think you've ruled out the video hardware, and you still have a nice Radeon for your next build. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
