Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-17 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 17/12/2021 à 20:32, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
>
> On 12/16/21 04:44, Didier Kryn wrote:
>> Le 16/12/2021 à 07:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
>>> I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source.  And it would
>>> have to be recompiled every time mozilla releases a new version.
>>>
>>  Why do you need to track the very last version from Mozilla? The
>> package provided in Devuan Chimaera just works with Alsa out of the box.
>
> Not here.  I just uninstalled pulseaudio, again, and ran Firefox ESR
> (78.15.0esr 64-bit) and got complete silence.  Xine, however, was
> working this time.

    Firefox isn't my daily browser but I have it installed. I'm running
the same version of Firefox as you, on the same arch and the same distro
and it plays sound without pulseaudio. There must be something wrong in
your config. Have you Alsa installed? And QuasMixer? Is it the version
of Firefox provided by the Devuan package or did you compile it yourself?

    -- Didier


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Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-17 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 17/12/2021 à 20:37, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :
> On 12/16/21 09:59, Steve Litt wrote:
>> Gregory Nowak via Dng said on Wed, 15 Dec 2021 19:32:11 -0700
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 03:34:09PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
>>> You need to use /usr/bin/apulse as a wrapper around every
>>> application you want to use it.
>
> Something got clipped wrong.  It was Gregory who said that, not me.
>
> Marc 

    Nevertheless it's true. It's the way apulse is supposed to work.

    -- Didier


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Re: [DNG] new firefox-esr buggy?

2021-12-17 Thread Harald Arnesen via Dng

Radisson via Dng [17/12/2021 21.04]:


Another symptom: when the cursor is moved to or away from the
scroll bar, the grey scrollbar is broken into a vertical set of
grey and light grey lines for about a second. When I drag the
scrollbar to scroll text, text and images are broken up by
horizontal white linees for a about a second. In a colored
image these lines can be colors from the image.



Sounds like a bug with the refreshing.
Does anything change when you cover the area temparly with an other window ?


Another thing, try to turn off "smooth scrolling" (why would anyone want 
that?).

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Re: [DNG] new firefox-esr buggy?

2021-12-17 Thread Radisson via Dng



Am 16.12.21 um 16:00 schrieb Haines Brown:

A recent upgrade installed the new version of Firefox: 78.15.0esr.
It was released on 5 Oct 2021.

It has a very annoying behavior and I wonder if others experience
it. I have torbrowser installed. It works fine, and so I don't think
it is a problem with X window system. I purged Firefox and
reinstalled it with no custsomization, and it still showed the
behavior. So it seems part of the Firefox release itself.

The behavior is hard to describe. When I scoll text up or down by
using the arrow keys, the lines of text begin to break up and
become unreadable until they settle about one second after the
scroll ends.  Actually it is thin horizontal white lines less
than a cm wide that last a second. Nowhere else do I have
this problem with scrolling.

Another symptom: when the cursor is moved to or away from the
scroll bar, the grey scrollbar is broken into a vertical set of
grey and light grey lines for about a second. When I drag the
scrollbar to scroll text, text and images are broken up by
horizontal white linees for a about a second. In a colored
image these lines can be colors from the image.



Sounds like a bug with the refreshing.
Does anything change when you cover the area temparly with an other window ?
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Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-17 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng


On 12/16/21 09:59, Steve Litt wrote:

Gregory Nowak via Dng said on Wed, 15 Dec 2021 19:32:11 -0700


On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 03:34:09PM -0800, Marc Shapiro via Dng wrote:
You need to use /usr/bin/apulse as a wrapper around every
application you want to use it.


Something got clipped wrong.  It was Gregory who said that, not me.

Marc

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Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-17 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng


On 12/16/21 04:44, Didier Kryn wrote:

Le 16/12/2021 à 07:08, Marc Shapiro via Dng a écrit :

I don't think I'm up for compiling firefox from source.  And it would
have to be recompiled every time mozilla releases a new version.


     Why do you need to track the very last version from Mozilla? The
package provided in Devuan Chimaera just works with Alsa out of the box.


Not here.  I just uninstalled pulseaudio, again, and ran Firefox ESR 
(78.15.0esr 64-bit) and got complete silence.  Xine, however, was 
working this time.


Marc

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Re: [DNG] new firefox-esr buggy?

2021-12-17 Thread Curtis Maurand via Dng


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2021, at 4:48 AM, hal  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/16/21 09:00, Haines Brown wrote:
> 
>> The behavior is hard to describe. When I scoll text up or down by
>> using the arrow keys, the lines of text begin to break up and
>> become unreadable until they settle about one second after the
> 
> 
> I'd give memtest86+ a run and see if it finds anything buggy with the RAM
> 

I’ve been running it for about a week and a half and I have not noticed the 
behavior and Im on an AMD cpu/gpu combo system and it’s old.

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Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio

2021-12-17 Thread hal



On 12/15/21 10:22, ael via Dng wrote:



I also think there can be an over reaction to Redhat. I know someone who
works for them, and distrusts systemd as much as anyone on this list,
and I gather that he is not alone in that view within redhat.


It goes so much deeper than that. systemd isn't just untrustworthy, it's a 
facade.
Redhat pulled the open source equivalent of a Microsoft EEE and systemd was the 
shim for it.
They screwed over every single person who's ever supported them, and did it in 
a way
that was just as sleezy as anything Microsoft or SCO has ever done.
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Re: [DNG] new firefox-esr buggy?

2021-12-17 Thread hal



On 12/16/21 09:00, Haines Brown wrote:


The behavior is hard to describe. When I scoll text up or down by
using the arrow keys, the lines of text begin to break up and
become unreadable until they settle about one second after the



I'd give memtest86+ a run and see if it finds anything buggy with the RAM

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