Re: [DNG] New build + extras
On Tue, 31 May 2022 14:37:36 -0500, o1bigtenor wrote in message : > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:48 AM Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:18:43 -0500, o1bigtenor wrote in message > > : > > > > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 8:46 AM Steve Litt > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > o1bigtenor via Dng said on Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 > > > > > > > > >Greetings > > > > > > > > > >I am investing in a new system. > > > > >(Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > > > > > > > You're going to be very, very pleased with your finished > > > > product. 16 high speed threads can tame the toughest online > > > > video chat or javascript-encumbered website. > > > > > > I am finding that web browsers are quite greedy when its comes to > > > system resources - - - especially the cpu but so far it seems > > > like the most I'm seeing is maybe 2 cores in use rarely more. > > > > ..starve them! No web browser deserve more than 2 to 4 cpu threads > > or more than 4GB of ram. I watch youtube videos on Google's > > chromium web browser at nice -n 17 at 1920x1200@60Hz on my 2 Dell > > Precision M4400 (8GB ram, one has an Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 @ > > 2.80GHz and the other a T9400 @ 2.53GHz cpu, both has NVIDIA's > > G96GLM [Quadro FX 770M] running the nouveau driver. (I usually > > prefer youtube at 1280x800, less stutter in rain, wireless ISP.) > > Like that idea - - - but - - - how? ..pass, too much overhead for my wee cpus. RT throttling/scheduling might work for me, once I get around to check it out. My biggest problem is keeping the keyboard alive when the graphics hangs. > (Are there any other ramifications to doing this?) ..depends on e.g. which wms, and what you run in them, me, I prefer crashing a browser tab rather than that whole damn browser, or the OS. Usually it kills either the input driver or the graphics driver, easily fixed over ssh. > > > > ..ok, 4K video games etc might need more, just keep them in qemu etc > > vms, no need to let any of that crap crash your hardware. RT, nice > > etc is there to help you kill the crap you keep in virtual machines. > > > > > Between most software not using more than a few cores and cost > > > was what decided me on this particular proc. > > > None of the more core procs run at 3.8 GHz base (I think there is > > > a bump up available too on the chosen model) so until a lot of > > > programs make use of multi-core I thought it not worth going for > > > more cores. > > > > ..I'd lean towards more cores rather than higher speeds, you can > > much more easily throw things into vms and let them chew thru with > > a dozen cpu treads, with 2, virtualization approaches virtual > > uselessness. ;o) > > I got badly burned (imo anyway) digging into containers (LXD) a while > ago now and am quite cured of any curiosity in that regard at > present. So at present > virtualization and I are not really on speaking terms (nevermind > actually running some kind of containerization). > > Looking forward to finding out how to starve browsers from devouring > all system resources!!! ..try play around with qemu, works even on my wee old cpus. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Steve Litt presents "HTML and CSS: What you need to know"
Hi all, Wednesday Evening, June 1, 2022, at 7pm Eastern Daylight time Steve Litt gives his "HTML and CSS: What you need to know" presentation at the monthly GoLUG online meeting. When: 7pm Eastern Daylight time on Wednesday, June 1, 2022. Starts right at 7pm Eastern Daylight Time. Where: https://meet.jit.si/golug Subject: HTML and CSS: What you need to know. HTML is the foundation of web page construction. No matter what tools you use, they eventually boil down to HTML. CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) is the modern foundation of web page appearance, decoration, and to some extent behavior. All quality tools eventually apply appearances via CSS. Consider the following: * A deep understanding of HTML and CSS improves understanding of higher level web construction tools. * A deep understanding of HTML and CSS gives the term "full stack developer" a whole new meaning. * Making your HTML5 also well-formed XML yields huge benefits in debugging, portability, and getting the output you envisioned. Doing this is trivially easy. * HTML and CSS are all that's necessary to make a responsive, mobile-friendly web page. * A deep understanding of HTML and CSS plus a zen-coding editor often make direct HTML/CSS authoring easier and quicker than some of the higher level tools. * A deep understanding of CSS makes a world of difference in the appearance of quick-author methods such as Markdown, Asciidoc, and reStructuredText. Get the best of both worlds. * Markdown (or other "wiki" languages) plus tokens plus simple Python programming plus a deep knowledge of HTML and CSS produces amazing results from the fastest authoring environments. * Each HTML element has a peer in the Document Object Model (DOM), making it easy to implement Javascript solutions or modify with an XML parser (assuming the HTML5 is also XML). Topics discussed include the following: * Container type HTML elements * Non-container type HTML elements * Making your HTML5 also be well-formed XML - Debugging your XMLized HTML5 . Much easier than debugging non-XML HTML5 * The extreme benefits of styles-based authoring * Structure of a CSS Style * HTML5 validation * Making your page responsive - Mobile-first authoring * Mobile-friendly testing If you have anything to do with web authoring or would like to in the future, this presentation is for you. What is GoLUG? Greater Orlando Linux User Group, Orlando Florida. Who will be there? Folks from Orlando Florida, all over the United States, and likely internationally. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt GoLUG Publicity Coordinator Greater Orlando Linux User Group ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New build + extras
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:48 AM Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:18:43 -0500, o1bigtenor wrote in message > : > > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 8:46 AM Steve Litt > > wrote: > > > > > > o1bigtenor via Dng said on Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 > > > > > > >Greetings > > > > > > > >I am investing in a new system. > > > >(Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > > > > > You're going to be very, very pleased with your finished product. 16 > > > high speed threads can tame the toughest online video chat or > > > javascript-encumbered website. > > > > I am finding that web browsers are quite greedy when its comes to > > system resources - - - especially the cpu but so far it seems like the > > most I'm seeing is maybe 2 cores in use rarely more. > > ..starve them! No web browser deserve more than 2 to 4 cpu threads > or more than 4GB of ram. I watch youtube videos on Google's chromium > web browser at nice -n 17 at 1920x1200@60Hz on my 2 Dell Precision > M4400 (8GB ram, one has an Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 @ 2.80GHz and the > other a T9400 @ 2.53GHz cpu, both has NVIDIA's G96GLM [Quadro FX 770M] > running the nouveau driver. (I usually prefer youtube at 1280x800, > less stutter in rain, wireless ISP.) Like that idea - - - but - - - how? (Are there any other ramifications to doing this?) > > ..ok, 4K video games etc might need more, just keep them in qemu etc > vms, no need to let any of that crap crash your hardware. RT, nice > etc is there to help you kill the crap you keep in virtual machines. > > > Between most software not using more than a few cores and cost > > was what decided me on this particular proc. > > None of the more core procs run at 3.8 GHz base (I think there is > > a bump up available too on the chosen model) so until a lot of > > programs make use of multi-core I thought it not worth going for > > more cores. > > ..I'd lean towards more cores rather than higher speeds, you can much > more easily throw things into vms and let them chew thru with a dozen > cpu treads, with 2, virtualization approaches virtual uselessness. ;o) > I got badly burned (imo anyway) digging into containers (LXD) a while ago now and am quite cured of any curiosity in that regard at present. So at present virtualization and I are not really on speaking terms (nevermind actually running some kind of containerization). Looking forward to finding out how to starve browsers from devouring all system resources!!! TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New build + extras
On Tue, 31 May 2022 09:18:43 -0500, o1bigtenor wrote in message : > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 8:46 AM Steve Litt > wrote: > > > > o1bigtenor via Dng said on Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 > > > > >Greetings > > > > > >I am investing in a new system. > > >(Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > > > You're going to be very, very pleased with your finished product. 16 > > high speed threads can tame the toughest online video chat or > > javascript-encumbered website. > > I am finding that web browsers are quite greedy when its comes to > system resources - - - especially the cpu but so far it seems like the > most I'm seeing is maybe 2 cores in use rarely more. ..starve them! No web browser deserve more than 2 to 4 cpu threads or more than 4GB of ram. I watch youtube videos on Google's chromium web browser at nice -n 17 at 1920x1200@60Hz on my 2 Dell Precision M4400 (8GB ram, one has an Intel Core 2 Duo T9600 @ 2.80GHz and the other a T9400 @ 2.53GHz cpu, both has NVIDIA's G96GLM [Quadro FX 770M] running the nouveau driver. (I usually prefer youtube at 1280x800, less stutter in rain, wireless ISP.) ..ok, 4K video games etc might need more, just keep them in qemu etc vms, no need to let any of that crap crash your hardware. RT, nice etc is there to help you kill the crap you keep in virtual machines. > Between most software not using more than a few cores and cost > was what decided me on this particular proc. > None of the more core procs run at 3.8 GHz base (I think there is > a bump up available too on the chosen model) so until a lot of > programs make use of multi-core I thought it not worth going for > more cores. ..I'd lean towards more cores rather than higher speeds, you can much more easily throw things into vms and let them chew thru with a dozen cpu treads, with 2, virtualization approaches virtual uselessness. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New build + extras
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 8:46 AM Steve Litt wrote: > > o1bigtenor via Dng said on Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 > > >Greetings > > > >I am investing in a new system. > >(Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > You're going to be very, very pleased with your finished product. 16 > high speed threads can tame the toughest online video chat or > javascript-encumbered website. I am finding that web browsers are quite greedy when its comes to system resources - - - especially the cpu but so far it seems like the most I'm seeing is maybe 2 cores in use rarely more. Between most software not using more than a few cores and cost was what decided me on this particular proc. None of the more core procs run at 3.8 GHz base (I think there is a bump up available too on the chosen model) so until a lot of programs make use of multi-core I thought it not worth going for more cores. > I have a couple suggestions: > > 1) 105 watts is a hot, hot processor. Make sure you have a CPU cooler >more than capable of cooling it, and make sure that cooler is built >to work for years, because if it stops working, it could damage your >CPU. Because the CPU is throwing off so much heat, you'll need extra >fannage to cool your entire box. If you can fit 200mm fans, those >are excellent CFM/noise ratio. CPU cooler is to be a 150 mm Noctua cpu cooler > > 2) You've got a spectacular processor, so make sure it's got RAM to >match. I'd recommend 64GB RAM. You never know what VMs you'll need >to spin up in the future, or the bloaticity of future software. I only put in 64 GB (have 64 GB in the old box already) but did it as 2 x 32 so that I could add more if warranted. > > In December 2021 I built a box with AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core 12-thread > processor, 64GB RAM, a 2TB NVMe for /, and a 14TB 7200 spinning rust > for mountpoints (I use my computer as a file cabinet, among other > things). I can't tell you how pleased I am with this setup. Yours is > going to be even more powerful than mine. > Going to use mirrored 1TB M2 drives for system info and another set of mirrored 1TB SSDs for /home. Moving the previous raid array over after up and running. Hopefully not too much fighting to get the graphics working the way I want. I've never used the open source Radeon drivers so that could be 'interesting'. Any suggestions on how to move over all the stored stuff like from rednotebook, browsers, and the like? TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New build + extras
o1bigtenor via Dng said on Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 >Greetings > >I am investing in a new system. >(Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) You're going to be very, very pleased with your finished product. 16 high speed threads can tame the toughest online video chat or javascript-encumbered website. I have a couple suggestions: 1) 105 watts is a hot, hot processor. Make sure you have a CPU cooler more than capable of cooling it, and make sure that cooler is built to work for years, because if it stops working, it could damage your CPU. Because the CPU is throwing off so much heat, you'll need extra fannage to cool your entire box. If you can fit 200mm fans, those are excellent CFM/noise ratio. 2) You've got a spectacular processor, so make sure it's got RAM to match. I'd recommend 64GB RAM. You never know what VMs you'll need to spin up in the future, or the bloaticity of future software. In December 2021 I built a box with AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core 12-thread processor, 64GB RAM, a 2TB NVMe for /, and a 14TB 7200 spinning rust for mountpoints (I use my computer as a file cabinet, among other things). I can't tell you how pleased I am with this setup. Yours is going to be even more powerful than mine. SteveT Steve Litt March 2022 featured book: Making Mental Models: Advanced Edition http://www.troubleshooters.com/mmm ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New build + extras
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 7:12 AM tito via Dng wrote: > > On Tue, 31 May 2022 05:27:37 -0500 > o1bigtenor wrote: > > > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 1:00 AM tito via Dng wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 > > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > I am investing in a new system. > > > > (Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > > > > > > > The old system has a raid 10 array that I would like to put into the > > > > new system. > > > > > > > > The new system is going to add 2 M2 drives that I want to set up as > > > > raid 1 > > > > and this is for use for /EFI, /boot, /, /var, /usr and swap. > > > > There are 2 2.5" SDDs that are going to be set up as raid 1 for /home. > > > > Want to be running Devuan daedalus. > > > > > > > > The idea is to transfer the previously used drives from the old system > > > > into the new system. > > > > > > > > The question: > > > > is it better to load the system and then add the hard drives > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > do I move the drives into the system and then install the system with > > > > the drives at the same time. > > > > > > > > (2 step process or 1 step process.) > > > Hi, > > > I've done this before and it could be done in both ways > > > without problems, but to avoid confusion in the install > > > and disk format step I nowadays prefer to do it in multiple steps: > > > 1) install system with only the needed system drives. > > > 2) when the system is installed and fully setup add the raid arrays one > > > by one > > > 3) assemble the array > > > 4) modify /etc/fstab, /etcmdadm/mdadm.conf, update-initramfs > > > 5) add scrubbing to crontab > > > 6) add the drives to smartd.conf > > > 7) reboot, check that array is up at boot > > > 8) go to step 3 for the next array and so on until done. > > > > > > > Thank you for the recommendations!! > > > > I'm not sure what # 4 through 6 are doing and how to do them or > > why to do them. > > 4) you should add the newly added arrays to /etc/fstab so that they are > mounted at boot, run as root: > > blkid /dev/mdX > /dev/mdX: UUID="-x---" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" > TYPE="ext4" > > then open /etc/fstab with ab editor of your choice and add the line: > > UUID=-x--- > /dir_where_you_want_it_to_be_mounted ext4defaults0 > 2 > > then to update /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf run as root: > > mdadm --examine --scan > > and copy any missing ARRAY definitions to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf > > then to update you initramfs with the updated files run as root: > > update-initramfs -k all -u > > 5) about drive scrubbing read > https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Scrubbing_the_drives > This is done in some longer time intervals automatically by devuan but > on systems > where I care I run scrubbing daily when the system is idle and > therefore I add > a line to /etc/crontab: > > 00 11 * * * rootecho check >> /sys/block/mdX/md/sync_action > > 6) You should install smartmontools to monitor your harddisks's health status > see man smartd and man smartd.conf > > Thank you mr Tito!! Have smartmontools running at present. Thank you very much for explaining!! Regards ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New build + extras
On Tue, 31 May 2022 05:27:37 -0500 o1bigtenor wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 1:00 AM tito via Dng wrote: > > > > On Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > I am investing in a new system. > > > (Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > > > > > The old system has a raid 10 array that I would like to put into the new > > > system. > > > > > > The new system is going to add 2 M2 drives that I want to set up as raid 1 > > > and this is for use for /EFI, /boot, /, /var, /usr and swap. > > > There are 2 2.5" SDDs that are going to be set up as raid 1 for /home. > > > Want to be running Devuan daedalus. > > > > > > The idea is to transfer the previously used drives from the old system > > > into the new system. > > > > > > The question: > > > is it better to load the system and then add the hard drives > > > > > > or > > > > > > do I move the drives into the system and then install the system with > > > the drives at the same time. > > > > > > (2 step process or 1 step process.) > > Hi, > > I've done this before and it could be done in both ways > > without problems, but to avoid confusion in the install > > and disk format step I nowadays prefer to do it in multiple steps: > > 1) install system with only the needed system drives. > > 2) when the system is installed and fully setup add the raid arrays one by > > one > > 3) assemble the array > > 4) modify /etc/fstab, /etcmdadm/mdadm.conf, update-initramfs > > 5) add scrubbing to crontab > > 6) add the drives to smartd.conf > > 7) reboot, check that array is up at boot > > 8) go to step 3 for the next array and so on until done. > > > > Thank you for the recommendations!! > > I'm not sure what # 4 through 6 are doing and how to do them or > why to do them. 4) you should add the newly added arrays to /etc/fstab so that they are mounted at boot, run as root: blkid /dev/mdX /dev/mdX: UUID="-x---" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" TYPE="ext4" then open /etc/fstab with ab editor of your choice and add the line: UUID=-x--- /dir_where_you_want_it_to_be_mounted ext4defaults0 2 then to update /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf run as root: mdadm --examine --scan and copy any missing ARRAY definitions to /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf then to update you initramfs with the updated files run as root: update-initramfs -k all -u 5) about drive scrubbing read https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Scrubbing_the_drives This is done in some longer time intervals automatically by devuan but on systems where I care I run scrubbing daily when the system is idle and therefore I add a line to /etc/crontab: 00 11 * * * rootecho check >> /sys/block/mdX/md/sync_action 6) You should install smartmontools to monitor your harddisks's health status see man smartd and man smartd.conf Ciao, Tito > > Please advise. > > TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New build + extras
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 1:00 AM tito via Dng wrote: > > On Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > I am investing in a new system. > > (Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > > > The old system has a raid 10 array that I would like to put into the new > > system. > > > > The new system is going to add 2 M2 drives that I want to set up as raid 1 > > and this is for use for /EFI, /boot, /, /var, /usr and swap. > > There are 2 2.5" SDDs that are going to be set up as raid 1 for /home. > > Want to be running Devuan daedalus. > > > > The idea is to transfer the previously used drives from the old system > > into the new system. > > > > The question: > > is it better to load the system and then add the hard drives > > > > or > > > > do I move the drives into the system and then install the system with > > the drives at the same time. > > > > (2 step process or 1 step process.) > Hi, > I've done this before and it could be done in both ways > without problems, but to avoid confusion in the install > and disk format step I nowadays prefer to do it in multiple steps: > 1) install system with only the needed system drives. > 2) when the system is installed and fully setup add the raid arrays one by one > 3) assemble the array > 4) modify /etc/fstab, /etcmdadm/mdadm.conf, update-initramfs > 5) add scrubbing to crontab > 6) add the drives to smartd.conf > 7) reboot, check that array is up at boot > 8) go to step 3 for the next array and so on until done. > Thank you for the recommendations!! I'm not sure what # 4 through 6 are doing and how to do them or why to do them. Please advise. TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New build + extras
On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 3:44 AM Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > > Hi, > > On Mon, 2022-05-30 at 17:03 -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > > > I am investing in a new system. > > (Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > > > The old system has a raid 10 array that I would like to put into the > > new system. > > > > The new system is going to add 2 M2 drives that I want to set up as > > raid 1 > > and this is for use for /EFI, /boot, /, /var, /usr and swap. > > There are 2 2.5" SDDs that are going to be set up as raid 1 for > > /home. > > Want to be running Devuan daedalus. > > > > The idea is to transfer the previously used drives from the old > > system > > into the new system. > > > > The question: > > is it better to load the system and then add the hard drives > > > > or > > > > do I move the drives into the system and then install the system with > > the drives at the same time. > > > > (2 step process or 1 step process.) > > > > I recently updated my CPU to AMD5600G from a 10 year old Phenom II 910 > x4.This required a new AM4 B550 motherboard and DDR4 RAM. > > Initially I just installed these in my existing case, connected up the > old SATA drives (2 x 500 SSD GB RAID1 and 2 x 1TB HDD RAID1+LSB) and it > booted up fine. > > Worth checking that your fstab and grub identifies your drives/RAID by > UUID or LABEL, rather than /sdX and /MDx, as these can change order > when connected to different SATA ports. > Thanks miss Marjorie! One thing I hadn't thought of!! My present system drives and raid are all identified by UUID so that should help things! Thanks!!! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] further new build questions
Greetings Can you tell I don't do this very often? (Its been some number of years and I'm not remembering most of the details and I just don't like oopses!!) One of the things that I'm doing different in my new install is that the system itself is going to be on a raid-1 (mirror). So how can I start by setting up the mirrors? (4 drives - - - 2 mirrors) Then - - - I've got a lot of software that I have installed on my present box. How do I generate a list of stuff, easily human readable, so that I can set up the new box with most of the stuff that I have on the present system? (I am moving from debian testing to devuan testing as well if that presents any gotchas.) I have used partitions for /efi, /boot, /, /usr, /usr/local, /var and /home for a long time now. Any need to change this practice? Had used btrfs for my latest filesystem instead of ext4 upon recommendation by a mentor (who is now deceased). Is this a good idea or are other options 'better'? Hopefully not too many questions! TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New build + extras
Hi, On Mon, 2022-05-30 at 17:03 -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > I am investing in a new system. > (Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > The old system has a raid 10 array that I would like to put into the > new system. > > The new system is going to add 2 M2 drives that I want to set up as > raid 1 > and this is for use for /EFI, /boot, /, /var, /usr and swap. > There are 2 2.5" SDDs that are going to be set up as raid 1 for > /home. > Want to be running Devuan daedalus. > > The idea is to transfer the previously used drives from the old > system > into the new system. > > The question: > is it better to load the system and then add the hard drives > > or > > do I move the drives into the system and then install the system with > the drives at the same time. > > (2 step process or 1 step process.) > I recently updated my CPU to AMD5600G from a 10 year old Phenom II 910 x4.This required a new AM4 B550 motherboard and DDR4 RAM. Initially I just installed these in my existing case, connected up the old SATA drives (2 x 500 SSD GB RAID1 and 2 x 1TB HDD RAID1+LSB) and it booted up fine. Worth checking that your fstab and grub identifies your drives/RAID by UUID or LABEL, rather than /sdX and /MDx, as these can change order when connected to different SATA ports. -- Marjorie ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] New build + extras
On Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > I am investing in a new system. > (Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > The old system has a raid 10 array that I would like to put into the new > system. > > The new system is going to add 2 M2 drives that I want to set up as raid 1 > and this is for use for /EFI, /boot, /, /var, /usr and swap. > There are 2 2.5" SDDs that are going to be set up as raid 1 for /home. > Want to be running Devuan daedalus. > > The idea is to transfer the previously used drives from the old system > into the new system. > > The question: > is it better to load the system and then add the hard drives > > or > > do I move the drives into the system and then install the system with > the drives at the same time. > > (2 step process or 1 step process.) Hi, I've done this before and it could be done in both ways without problems, but to avoid confusion in the install and disk format step I nowadays prefer to do it in multiple steps: 1) install system with only the needed system drives. 2) when the system is installed and fully setup add the raid arrays one by one 3) assemble the array 4) modify /etc/fstab, /etcmdadm/mdadm.conf, update-initramfs 5) add scrubbing to crontab 6) add the drives to smartd.conf 7) reboot, check that array is up at boot 8) go to step 3 for the next array and so on until done. Ciao, Tito > Any gotchas I should be aware of - - - have not ever installed AMD > procs nor gpus (want to run the open source drivers and will be quite > happy to leave the nvidea world behind). > > (If further information is needed please advise.) > > Regards > > Aj > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
