[DNG] Linux Pro Magazine revisits Devuan
Greetings! Shortly after Debian was forked in early 2015, Linux Pro Magazine[1] published an article about Devuan titled "Shiny New Fork"[2]. The first paragraph always makes me smile: "The world is left to wonder if the recent news of a Debian fork is an important event or a minor historical footnote. Either way, it seems like a good story, reminiscent of the Linux stories of the past, when the community really looked and behaved like a collection of individuals rather than a corporate fan club." Earlier this month in Issue 260/2022, Devuan was revisited in a Distro Walk article by Bruce Byfield titled "DEVUAN: The fight for Init Freedom"[3]. He said, "Although Devuan might be a niche distribution, clearly it is a thriving one." Yeah, Devuan is special . . . We have just received a complimentary PDF[4] to share with all of you. Enjoy! [1] https://www.linuxpromagazine.com/ [2] https://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Issues/2015/171/Welcome#article_i3 [3] https://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Issues/2022/260/Devuan/(language)/eng-US [4] http://dev1galaxy.org/files/Linux_Magazine_Reprint_Devuan.pdf ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] install on a raid 1 array
On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 3:03 PM Simon wrote: > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > I have not ever installed like this so first the configuration. > > > > Ryzen 7 3800X > > Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro mobo > > 64 GB ram > > 2 - 1 TB M2 drives > > 2 - 1 TB SSDs > > > > I want to set the system up so that the drives are 2 sets of Raid-1 with > > (proposed) > > set 1 > > /efi, /boot, /, /usr, /usr/local, /var, swap > > set 2 > > /home > > > > How do I set up the raid arrays? > > Are they set up first and then the system is installed? > > Or do I set up what I want on one of each of the sets and the copy > > that setup to the second (of the set) and make it raid after system > > install? > > > > I can't seem to find anything done within the last 2 years talking about > > this. > > Don't see where it should be difficult but then - - - well I've > > thought that before() and had a boat load of male bovine excrement > > to wade through! > > (So I'm asking before doing to forestall issues - - - I hope!) > > Others have given good information. Unless things have changed since I last > did an install (couple of years I think), you can just go into manual disk > partitioning and do it from there. Unfortunately, to do an optimum install > means getting the calculator out as the defaults are sub-optimal … > > AFAIK, all disks these days are 4k sectors, or for SSD, probably bigger. > Ideally you want your partitions aligned to these boundaries. So for example, > leave sectors (unix 512 byte sectors) 0-63 unused, and start your first > partition at sector 64. If you know that your SSD uses (say) 64k blocks > internally, then leave sectors 0-127 unused and start the first partition at > sector 128. From memory the partitioning tool in the installer doesn’t do > this alignment unless you manually calculate all your partition start & end > blocks. > Everything will work fine if things are not aligned, but performance will be > sub-optimal in some situations. OK - - - finally have a working system - - - -lots of joys - - - first a dead psu then a cabling issue (the usb3.0 front panel connector on the mobo has a specific installation orientation) and then the mob said there was room for 8 SATA drives and 2 M2 drives - - - well when you use the M2 slots you lose a SATA drive for each - - - lots of joys and time wasted - - - if only these gotchas were easier to find!!! Now I come to the install. First attempt set up 2 raid 1s except now I can't partition the drives second attempt set up 2 drives with some spacer partitions (4.0 MB each) and some 8 partitions set up 2 drives with same spacer partitions and a large /home partition then wanted to make 2 raid arrays - - - - except I'm only allowed to use 2 partitions - - - - one from each member of the array. (There was also complaining that there were 2 /root partitions before I tried to create the array.) Neither of these options is what I want. (This is only some couple hours down the drain - - - argh) So - - - how do I achieve 2 raid 1 arrays? #1 has partitions for /efi, /boot, /root/, swap, /tmp, /var, /usr, /usr/local with a spacer of 4.0 MB between (and before the first and after each) #2 has a partition for /home with a spacer of 4.0 MB between (and before the first and after) The destructions that I have been able to find are - - - - well - - - - they're mostly talking about using LVM - - - - which I have not ever used. So - - - please - - - - what do I do besides abandon my idea? (There must be some kind of mystery step someplace - - - and I can't find it) TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] do I need drivers for
On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 08:22:38AM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > Have found some PCIe 3.0 cards with 16 SATA port count. > > > > > Do I need any kind of special driver to use this many SATA ports? > > > > What kind of SATA cards (brand, model, chip)? > > > > > > > > > > SATA PCIe Adapter 16 Port SATA III to PCI Express 3.0 X1 Controller > > > Expansion Card ASM1064 JBM575 Chip > > > > Best try is always to search for the chip markings. You would find > > this thread: > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ide/05f0db0a-e961-0f68-4302-68be03459...@opensource.wdc.com/T/ > > There's a slight difference (ASM1062 vs ASM1064) but the card should work > > with > > standard AHCI driver (you may need to add pciids or bind the driver to > > the card). > > In inverse order: > This particular chip '1064' is not listed in the pci.id directory > although the company is. > Will that cause problems for my use? > Binding the driver to the card does not look at all straightforward. Binding the driver is a matter of simple `echo` to the file in sysfs. See this article: https://lwn.net/Articles/143397/ and examples for PCI devices at https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-pci Providing _exact_ parameters to use is not possible at this time. Only after you have the card in your computer you can use `lspci` to check for exact bus address. > The AHCI driver lists the ASM1062 and also the ASM1062 with the JMB575. > There is no listing for the 1064 or the other two newer chips. > Does this mean that I might have issues using this card? I don't expect any problems, but without the card we can't be 100% sure. I suggest you should buy the card from the place with reasonable return policy. And return it if you can't make it work. -- Tomasz Torcz 72->| 80->| to...@pipebreaker.pl 72->| 80->| ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] do I need drivers for
On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 11:53 PM Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 09:13:35PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 5:16 PM tito via Dng wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 17:10:51 -0500 > > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > Bought a mobo that said that there was room for 8 SATA ports and 2 M2 > > > > drives. > > > > > > > > It took looking in the fine print to find that when using M2 drives > > > > that one loses an > > > > SATA port for each M2 drive. > > They may be SATA-only M.2, not NVMe. Read the manual closely. > > > > > Have found some PCIe 3.0 cards with 16 SATA port count. > > > > > > > > Do I need any kind of special driver to use this many SATA ports? > > > > > > What kind of SATA cards (brand, model, chip)? > > > > > > > SATA PCIe Adapter 16 Port SATA III to PCI Express 3.0 X1 Controller > > Expansion Card ASM1064 JBM575 Chip > > Best try is always to search for the chip markings. You would find > this thread: > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-ide/05f0db0a-e961-0f68-4302-68be03459...@opensource.wdc.com/T/ > There's a slight difference (ASM1062 vs ASM1064) but the card should work with > standard AHCI driver (you may need to add pciids or bind the driver to > the card). In inverse order: This particular chip '1064' is not listed in the pci.id directory although the company is. Will that cause problems for my use? Binding the driver to the card does not look at all straightforward. If this is something that I would need to do - - - - would I be able to get assistance (please)? Reading in ASMedia Technologies web site. in ascending order: 1061 - - - 2 ports 1062 - - - Gen 2 x 2 (pcie) - 2 ports 1064 - - - Gen 3 x 1 (pcie) - 4 ports 1164 - - - Gen 3 x 2 (pcie) - 4 ports 1166 - - - Gen 3 x 2 (pcie) - 6 ports The AHCI driver lists the ASM1062 and also the ASM1062 with the JMB575. There is no listing for the 1064 or the other two newer chips. Does this mean that I might have issues using this card? Greatly appreciating the gentle introduction to the arcane arts of 'under the hood tinkering' (!!!). Thank you greatly for your assistance. Aj > > > -- > Tomasz Torcz 72->| > 80->| > to...@pipebreaker.pl 72->| > 80->| > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
