Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff
You need to understand how your Desktop environment is being initialized. It is started by the Display Manager, thus inherit whatever environment variable is sourced by the DM. To have the DM be aware of custom variables, it needs to source that information from a file from your home directory. The file itself depends on the DM and/or DE, on how it's been written, because this hasn't been standardized. At the core, all they are doing is starting a Xorg session. Which means that /etc/X11/Xsession is being involved. I remember having to change something in order to make xfce aware of additional PATH entries, but I since then changed my DE to KDE. I can't remember the steps I had to take. It probably has to do with a file present in /etc/xdg/xfce4 You could try your luck with ~/.xsessionrc though. Cheers, Ludovic On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, o1bigtenor wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:44 AM Ludovic Bellière wrote: That would be an environment variable. It has to be written into a file sourced by your DM, each has their own standard. For KDE/sddm, you can look into /etc/sddm/Xsession to see which file correspond to your system (it's different whether you use bash or zsh or whatever else). Hm - - - - did some snooping around in /etc/ . . . where I see that lxdm is the default-display-manager yet when I'm looking in the lxqt session settings there I'm told that xfwm4 is my window manager. (This doesn't help me figuring out what's wrong - - - that's for sure.) Dunno what having these two things different does. I can't find a neat place where anything is said about xscreensaver and that it run like this and do this (except in the xscreensaver setup dialog boxes). I'm thinking this is somehow browser related but I can't find anywhere to kick the browsers in their collective pants (don't care if I perhaps break their necks in the process either) so that the screensaver can shut of the screens. Appreciate the ideas and am chasing any one of them as far as I can - - grin! TIA signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:44 AM Ludovic Bellière wrote: > > That would be an environment variable. It has to be written into a file > sourced > by your DM, each has their own standard. For KDE/sddm, you can look into > /etc/sddm/Xsession to see which file correspond to your system (it's different > whether you use bash or zsh or whatever else). > Hm - - - - did some snooping around in /etc/ . . . where I see that lxdm is the default-display-manager yet when I'm looking in the lxqt session settings there I'm told that xfwm4 is my window manager. (This doesn't help me figuring out what's wrong - - - that's for sure.) Dunno what having these two things different does. I can't find a neat place where anything is said about xscreensaver and that it run like this and do this (except in the xscreensaver setup dialog boxes). I'm thinking this is somehow browser related but I can't find anywhere to kick the browsers in their collective pants (don't care if I perhaps break their necks in the process either) so that the screensaver can shut of the screens. Appreciate the ideas and am chasing any one of them as far as I can - - grin! TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
On 2022-07-28 06:05, Stefan Krusche wrote: Am Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2022 schrieb Ludovic Bellière: DNG is definitively sending emails, however some host will silently filter out emails without telling you why. I'd suggest either contacting your host Thanks. That's what I've been speculating, too. But I think my provider is ok. They call themselves "political provider" and it's a paid service. However, contacting them may be the way to go. Kind regards, Stefan Yes, Dyne email is currently messed up but not a peep out of Dyne. Trying to sort what is going on . . . golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff
That would be an environment variable. It has to be written into a file sourced by your DM, each has their own standard. For KDE/sddm, you can look into /etc/sddm/Xsession to see which file correspond to your system (it's different whether you use bash or zsh or whatever else). Cheers, Ludovic On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: H - - - -setting it system wide - - - - would that not be running as root the command export SDL_VIDEOALLOW_SCREENSAVER=1 ? Is that only invoked with a system restart? TIA signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 7:33 AM onefang wrote: > > On 2022-07-28 07:24:46, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:53 AM onefang > > wrote: > > > > > > On 2022-07-27 21:24:42, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > > > > > Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X graphics card using > > > > > > opensource amdgpu drivers (version compiled for 1.21.1.3, module > > > > > > version = 22.0.0, Module class: X.Org Video Driver, ABI class: X.Org > > > > > > Video Driver, version 25.2) running xorg-server 2:21.1.3-2+b1. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think my system is reasonably upto date running Daedalus. (Last > > > > > > apt > > > > > > update check done this morning.) > > > > > > > > > > > > The issue - - - > > > > > > > > > > > > After a system reboot the screens will enter screensaver pretty > > > > > > picture mode and then blank to off at the chosen times. I've got 5 > > > > > > monitors set up to display most of a 7680x3000 virtual desktop. > > > > > > Also run a lot of desktops and tend to accumulate a lot of tabs in > > > > > > my > > > > > > browsers. Run at least 3 browsers at once (Opera, Brave and Firefox) > > > > > > with Firefox as the default and have in the past also run Vivaldi. > > > > > > Firefox is the default browser. > > > > > > Firefox is the only browser that will place its windows where I had > > > > > > them on the various desktops. Finding this I have reduced every > > > > > > other > > > > > > browser to windows on at most one 'desktop'. That is the only way > > > > > > that > > > > > > I can get any time at all where the screensaver just does its job. > > > > > > The problem is that after about 80 hours (or so - - - - haven't > > > > > > defined that time with any precision) the screensaver will move to > > > > > > the > > > > > > pretty pics screens but does NOT move to screen off. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to find what in either the browsers is hindering > > > > > > the screen 'blanking' (if I'm using the correct term) or is breaking > > > > > > on my system - - - dunno. Have been looking at xset as well but > > > > > > really > > > > > > don't know what the bleeping blazes I'm doing and don't want to > > > > > > create > > > > > > an even bigger mess! > > > > > > I am using lxqt still on version 0.16.0 trying to wait patiently for > > > > > > version 1.01 which is supposedly going to move from experimental to > > > > > > unstable and testing hopefully very soon but that timing is NOT up > > > > > > to > > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there someone out there in Devuan land who has any idea of how to > > > > > > change this annoying behavior? > > > > > > Can I change something in Xset to make this happen? > > > > > > Something else? > > > > > > > > > > > > (I can reboot and set up things the way I want (takes about 1/2 hour > > > > > > in total to do everything) so I find that this time every 4 days is > > > > > > a > > > > > > nuisance. ) > > > > > > > > > > That sort of thing was driving me crazy for ages, screensaver would > > > > > blank > > > > > the screen, but not turn the monitors off. I finally tracked it down. > > > > > In my case it was running SDL based programs, the fix is - > > > > > > > > > > export SDL_VIDEO_ALLOW_SCREENSAVER=1 > > > > > > > > > > That may or may not be your problem though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm - - - - will dig into that but I don't run any steam connected > > > > items - - - at least AFAIK but - - - thanks! > > > > > > SDL is a popular graphics layer, nothing to do with steam. Though > > > perhaps steam and lots of games use it. Some video players use it, lots > > > of games use it, in my case it was a 3D virtual world client that I leave > > > runnig all day, coz I run virtual worlds. So non games use it to. > > > > > > > Have used the command both as user and as root and there is no > > perceivable change. Maybe a system reboot is also needed? > > Do it before running any SDL programs, so that they can see that > environment variable when they run. But if you don't know which are SDL > programs, then setting it system wide might help. > H - - - -setting it system wide - - - - would that not be running as root the command export SDL_VIDEOALLOW_SCREENSAVER=1 ? Is that only invoked with a system restart? TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff
On 2022-07-28 07:24:46, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:53 AM onefang wrote: > > > > On 2022-07-27 21:24:42, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > > > Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X graphics card using > > > > > opensource amdgpu drivers (version compiled for 1.21.1.3, module > > > > > version = 22.0.0, Module class: X.Org Video Driver, ABI class: X.Org > > > > > Video Driver, version 25.2) running xorg-server 2:21.1.3-2+b1. > > > > > > > > > > I think my system is reasonably upto date running Daedalus. (Last apt > > > > > update check done this morning.) > > > > > > > > > > The issue - - - > > > > > > > > > > After a system reboot the screens will enter screensaver pretty > > > > > picture mode and then blank to off at the chosen times. I've got 5 > > > > > monitors set up to display most of a 7680x3000 virtual desktop. > > > > > Also run a lot of desktops and tend to accumulate a lot of tabs in my > > > > > browsers. Run at least 3 browsers at once (Opera, Brave and Firefox) > > > > > with Firefox as the default and have in the past also run Vivaldi. > > > > > Firefox is the default browser. > > > > > Firefox is the only browser that will place its windows where I had > > > > > them on the various desktops. Finding this I have reduced every other > > > > > browser to windows on at most one 'desktop'. That is the only way that > > > > > I can get any time at all where the screensaver just does its job. > > > > > The problem is that after about 80 hours (or so - - - - haven't > > > > > defined that time with any precision) the screensaver will move to the > > > > > pretty pics screens but does NOT move to screen off. > > > > > > > > > > I have been trying to find what in either the browsers is hindering > > > > > the screen 'blanking' (if I'm using the correct term) or is breaking > > > > > on my system - - - dunno. Have been looking at xset as well but really > > > > > don't know what the bleeping blazes I'm doing and don't want to create > > > > > an even bigger mess! > > > > > I am using lxqt still on version 0.16.0 trying to wait patiently for > > > > > version 1.01 which is supposedly going to move from experimental to > > > > > unstable and testing hopefully very soon but that timing is NOT up to > > > > > me. > > > > > > > > > > Is there someone out there in Devuan land who has any idea of how to > > > > > change this annoying behavior? > > > > > Can I change something in Xset to make this happen? > > > > > Something else? > > > > > > > > > > (I can reboot and set up things the way I want (takes about 1/2 hour > > > > > in total to do everything) so I find that this time every 4 days is a > > > > > nuisance. ) > > > > > > > > That sort of thing was driving me crazy for ages, screensaver would > > > > blank > > > > the screen, but not turn the monitors off. I finally tracked it down. > > > > In my case it was running SDL based programs, the fix is - > > > > > > > > export SDL_VIDEO_ALLOW_SCREENSAVER=1 > > > > > > > > That may or may not be your problem though. > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm - - - - will dig into that but I don't run any steam connected > > > items - - - at least AFAIK but - - - thanks! > > > > SDL is a popular graphics layer, nothing to do with steam. Though > > perhaps steam and lots of games use it. Some video players use it, lots > > of games use it, in my case it was a 3D virtual world client that I leave > > runnig all day, coz I run virtual worlds. So non games use it to. > > > > Have used the command both as user and as root and there is no > perceivable change. Maybe a system reboot is also needed? Do it before running any SDL programs, so that they can see that environment variable when they run. But if you don't know which are SDL programs, then setting it system wide might help. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:53 AM onefang wrote: > > On 2022-07-27 21:24:42, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang > > wrote: > > > > > > On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X graphics card using > > > > opensource amdgpu drivers (version compiled for 1.21.1.3, module > > > > version = 22.0.0, Module class: X.Org Video Driver, ABI class: X.Org > > > > Video Driver, version 25.2) running xorg-server 2:21.1.3-2+b1. > > > > > > > > I think my system is reasonably upto date running Daedalus. (Last apt > > > > update check done this morning.) > > > > > > > > The issue - - - > > > > > > > > After a system reboot the screens will enter screensaver pretty > > > > picture mode and then blank to off at the chosen times. I've got 5 > > > > monitors set up to display most of a 7680x3000 virtual desktop. > > > > Also run a lot of desktops and tend to accumulate a lot of tabs in my > > > > browsers. Run at least 3 browsers at once (Opera, Brave and Firefox) > > > > with Firefox as the default and have in the past also run Vivaldi. > > > > Firefox is the default browser. > > > > Firefox is the only browser that will place its windows where I had > > > > them on the various desktops. Finding this I have reduced every other > > > > browser to windows on at most one 'desktop'. That is the only way that > > > > I can get any time at all where the screensaver just does its job. > > > > The problem is that after about 80 hours (or so - - - - haven't > > > > defined that time with any precision) the screensaver will move to the > > > > pretty pics screens but does NOT move to screen off. > > > > > > > > I have been trying to find what in either the browsers is hindering > > > > the screen 'blanking' (if I'm using the correct term) or is breaking > > > > on my system - - - dunno. Have been looking at xset as well but really > > > > don't know what the bleeping blazes I'm doing and don't want to create > > > > an even bigger mess! > > > > I am using lxqt still on version 0.16.0 trying to wait patiently for > > > > version 1.01 which is supposedly going to move from experimental to > > > > unstable and testing hopefully very soon but that timing is NOT up to > > > > me. > > > > > > > > Is there someone out there in Devuan land who has any idea of how to > > > > change this annoying behavior? > > > > Can I change something in Xset to make this happen? > > > > Something else? > > > > > > > > (I can reboot and set up things the way I want (takes about 1/2 hour > > > > in total to do everything) so I find that this time every 4 days is a > > > > nuisance. ) > > > > > > That sort of thing was driving me crazy for ages, screensaver would blank > > > the screen, but not turn the monitors off. I finally tracked it down. > > > In my case it was running SDL based programs, the fix is - > > > > > > export SDL_VIDEO_ALLOW_SCREENSAVER=1 > > > > > > That may or may not be your problem though. > > > > > > > > Hmmm - - - - will dig into that but I don't run any steam connected > > items - - - at least AFAIK but - - - thanks! > > SDL is a popular graphics layer, nothing to do with steam. Though > perhaps steam and lots of games use it. Some video players use it, lots > of games use it, in my case it was a 3D virtual world client that I leave > runnig all day, coz I run virtual worlds. So non games use it to. > Have used the command both as user and as root and there is no perceivable change. Maybe a system reboot is also needed? TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Am Donnerstag, 28. Juli 2022 schrieb Ludovic Bellière: > DNG is definitively sending emails, however some host will silently > filter out emails without telling you why. I'd suggest either > contacting your host Thanks. That's what I've been speculating, too. But I think my provider is ok. They call themselves "political provider" and it's a paid service. However, contacting them may be the way to go. Kind regards, Stefan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
On Thursday 28 July 2022 at 12:41:35, marc wrote: > > I think the first step would be to fix the reverse DNS entry for the host > > lists.dyne.org > > Or more precisely, 162.19.139.95 which claims to be sending mail > as lists.dyne.org - at least to me > > Perhaps this is a live server migration/restore/update ? Indeed - the earliest email I see coming from that address is Tue Jul 19 11:26:02 CEST 2022 Before then, they were coming from mail.dyne.org [141.95.83.167] Antony. -- I don't know, maybe if we all waited then cosmic rays would write all our software for us. Of course it might take a while. - Ron Minnich, Los Alamos National Laboratory Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
> I think the first step would be to fix the reverse DNS entry for the host > lists.dyne.org Or more precisely, 162.19.139.95 which claims to be sending mail as lists.dyne.org - at least to me Perhaps this is a live server migration/restore/update ? regards marc ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
> Hello list, Hiya > Can confirm on my end too, apparently a meeble.net is now involved. That, or I > no longer understand emails anymore. Meeble is Marjorie's domain, and message-ids and in-reply-tos often contain domain names I think the first step would be to fix the reverse DNS entry for the host lists.dyne.org regards marc ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Hi Ludovik, On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 11:44 +0200, Ludovic Bellière wrote: > Hello list, > > Can confirm on my end too, apparently a meeble.net is now involved. > That, or I no longer understand emails anymore. > > Authentication-Results: mx201.skynet.be; spf=None > smtp.pra=dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org; > spf=Pass smtp.mailfrom=dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org; spf=None > smtp.helo=postmas...@mail.dyne.org; dkim=hardfail (body hash > did not verify > [final]) header.i=@meeble.net > No I think there is an issue with the DKIM authentication on the DNG mail server and it's affecting not just Stefan and myself. It's not affecting emails that are copied directly to me (which is why I thought Marc's reply was clear). On various list emails from the list my RSPAMD log is showing: R_DKIM_REJECT (1) [proximus.be:s=rmail] R_DKIM_REJECT (1) [meeble.net:s=202002] R_DKIM_REJECT (1) [gregn.net:s=default] R_DKIM_REJECT (1) [gmail.com:s=20210112] the bit in brackets depends on the sender to list. I'm pretty sure that gmail, for example, wouldn't be throwing an issue at their end. On my mail server this authentication failure simply increments the spam score by 1, not sufficient to put it into spam or to reject outright. On Stefan's server, which seems to be stricter on DKIM it leads to a rejection and him not seeing DNG emails. NB. My first reply attempt to list used an alternative email address (marjo...@meeble.net) at my end, which no doubt would have been correctly rejected by the DNG server. -- Marjorie > > On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > > > Hi Sterfan, > > > > Spoke too soon. I'm getting it on my reply too: > > > > Authentication-Results: mail.dyne.org; dkim=fail reason="signature > > verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) > > header.d=meeble.net > > header.i=@meeble.net header.b="K9Pp04F0"; dkim-atps=neutral > > > > > > > > Irrespective, it may be your mail server provider is a bit too > > > strict. > > > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Hello list, Can confirm on my end too, apparently a meeble.net is now involved. That, or I no longer understand emails anymore. Authentication-Results: mx201.skynet.be; spf=None smtp.pra=dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org; spf=Pass smtp.mailfrom=dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org; spf=None smtp.helo=postmas...@mail.dyne.org; dkim=hardfail (body hash did not verify [final]) header.i=@meeble.net Cheers, Ludovic On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: Hi Sterfan, Spoke too soon. I'm getting it on my reply too: Authentication-Results: mail.dyne.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=meeble.net header.i=@meeble.net header.b="K9Pp04F0"; dkim-atps=neutral Irrespective, it may be your mail server provider is a bit too strict. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Firefox unwilling to install extensions
Hey marc, Nothing you wrote made sense to me. Not only my firefox is perfectly capable of installing extensions, the problem(s) you describe seems from another planet. Or from somebody having a mental breakdown. If you load a temporary addons, why would would believe that it ought to be permanent? More over, have you verified that your profile folder is writable? Check about:profiles, the extensions folder should be full of xpi files. Maybe your container resets its file system after each usage though, and only keep specific files in specific paths… Who knows?! You have an exotic setup, and are probably the only one that understands it. In any case, firefox is probably not to blame here. Cheers, Ludovic PS: I have no idea about the core issue, and I know nothing about lxc. So I just threw some ideas around. Though explaining what lxc does might be more helpful. On Mon, 25 Jul 2022, marc wrote: Hello list I am running various versions of devuan (chimera, but also beowulf) in lxc containers, and the versions of firefox shipping with devuan refuse to install extensions on a permanent basis. I can go to "add-ons and themes->manage your extensions->cog->debug add-ons->load temporary add-on" and get things like noscript to run, but sadly that doesn't last. This is on firefox 91.11.0, and also some earlier versions. The other install methods prompt me for an accept/install, and then just do nothing... I am just holding it wrong and is there a magic setting which will let me install addons permanently ? I did go to about:config, and after several obnoxiously patronising warnings, set the "xpinstall.signatures.required" to "false". Alas, that did not seem to make a difference. I did disable all the telemetry (including the live blocklist downloads, etc)... Maybe the logic baked into firefox only lets one install extensions if one consents to regular body cavity searches ? Or maybe there is logic to detect containers so that the all seeing eye can require live humans with camera and microphone to present themselves to the browser ? I have "lxc.cap.drop = sys_module mknod net_raw" and an intermediate proxy set... Suggestions are appreciated - my "apt-cache search" did not show anything called iceweasel, nor palemoon, nor waterfox. Would it be possible to include these in the devuan repository, or perhaps (a thankless task, I believe) build a version of firefox with no user-hostile logic enabled. Though one imagines that would have the benefit of halving the executable size. I am not keen to install anything chrome related or derived - that hands google yet more initiative for the offensive addition of ever more web mis-features. I think this used be called the upgrade treadmill in the paid-for software era. Though admittedly I am also beginning to suspect that google only keeps mozilla around as pet, to trot out when the regulators stir in their slumber and mumble something about anti-trust or market distortion. Is that as dire as I think ? Should I start planning a full escape into the gemini universe ? Or is there still hope - is it still possible to assemble a browser+configuration which is featureful, ad-free and privacy respecting, to suit up in, to climb out the airlock and venture forth out into the corporate wasteland that is the modern web to scavenge a last few bits of useful information, underneath the heaps of used dopamine syringes, ad-excrement and other web-addict paraphernalia ? regards marc signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Hi Sterfan, On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 10:12 +0100, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > Hi Stefan, > > On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 09:35 +0200, Stefan Krusche wrote: > > Good Day everybody, > > > > I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since > > 18.7.2022 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea > > why. > > > > My mail domain is hosted/served by jpberlin.de, a company in > > Berlin, > > Germany. There are no messages in the spam folder on the server > > either. > > > > Has something changed? What can I do to find out what happened? > > > Looking at the headers on recent posts (not just those from you) from > the DNG list I'm now seeing the following: > > Authentication-Results: mail.dyne.org; dkim=fail reason="signature > verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com > header.i=@gmail.com header.b="dZ8HIihF"; dkim-atps=neutral > > Different servers and their spam filters have different policies as > to what is acceptable and outright rejection is always possible: as > these are silent then you'll never know how many spam or legitimate > emails are getting rejected as the emails never get to your spam > folder - on my server a majority of obvious spam never gets to my > spam folder as it is clearly malformed (no valid reverse DNS, for > example). > > I have my own postfix server with rspamd and it's not rejecting DNG > due to the DKIM authentication but it's possible yours may do. And > asi t's my own server I also do get to see summary information > about all rejections. > > This is a recent change on the DNG list server so it probably needs > fixing. > > Interestingly I'm not seeing it in Marc reply, so maybe it /has/ been > fixed! Spoke too soon. I'm getting it on my reply too: Authentication-Results: mail.dyne.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=meeble.net header.i=@meeble.net header.b="K9Pp04F0"; dkim-atps=neutral > > Irrespective, it may be your mail server provider is a bit too > strict. > -- Marjorie ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Hi Stefan, On Thu, 2022-07-28 at 09:35 +0200, Stefan Krusche wrote: > Good Day everybody, > > I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since > 18.7.2022 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea > why. > > My mail domain is hosted/served by jpberlin.de, a company in Berlin, > Germany. There are no messages in the spam folder on the server > either. > > Has something changed? What can I do to find out what happened? > Looking at the headers on recent posts (not just those from you) from the DNG list I'm now seeing the following: Authentication-Results: mail.dyne.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="dZ8HIihF"; dkim-atps=neutral Different servers and their spam filters have different policies as to what is acceptable and outright rejection is always possible: as these are silent then you'll never know how many spam or legitimate emails are getting rejected as the emails never get to your spam folder - on my server a majority of obvious spam never gets to my spam folder as it is clearly malformed (no valid reverse DNS, for example). I have my own postfix server with rspamd and it's not rejecting DNG due to the DKIM authentication but it's possible yours may do. And as it's my own server I also do get to see summary information about all rejections. This is a recent change on the DNG list server so it probably needs fixing. Interestingly I'm not seeing it in Marc reply, so maybe it /has/ been fixed! Irrespective, it may be your mail server provider is a bit too strict. -- Marjorie On 28 July 2022 08:35:40 BST, Stefan Krusche wrote: Good Day everybody, I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since 18.7.2022 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea why. My mail domain is hosted/served by jpberlin.de, a company in Berlin, Germany. There are no messages in the spam folder on the server either. Has something changed? What can I do to find out what happened? Thanks, Stefan Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff
On 2022-07-27 21:24:42, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang wrote: > > > > On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > > > Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X graphics card using > > > opensource amdgpu drivers (version compiled for 1.21.1.3, module > > > version = 22.0.0, Module class: X.Org Video Driver, ABI class: X.Org > > > Video Driver, version 25.2) running xorg-server 2:21.1.3-2+b1. > > > > > > I think my system is reasonably upto date running Daedalus. (Last apt > > > update check done this morning.) > > > > > > The issue - - - > > > > > > After a system reboot the screens will enter screensaver pretty > > > picture mode and then blank to off at the chosen times. I've got 5 > > > monitors set up to display most of a 7680x3000 virtual desktop. > > > Also run a lot of desktops and tend to accumulate a lot of tabs in my > > > browsers. Run at least 3 browsers at once (Opera, Brave and Firefox) > > > with Firefox as the default and have in the past also run Vivaldi. > > > Firefox is the default browser. > > > Firefox is the only browser that will place its windows where I had > > > them on the various desktops. Finding this I have reduced every other > > > browser to windows on at most one 'desktop'. That is the only way that > > > I can get any time at all where the screensaver just does its job. > > > The problem is that after about 80 hours (or so - - - - haven't > > > defined that time with any precision) the screensaver will move to the > > > pretty pics screens but does NOT move to screen off. > > > > > > I have been trying to find what in either the browsers is hindering > > > the screen 'blanking' (if I'm using the correct term) or is breaking > > > on my system - - - dunno. Have been looking at xset as well but really > > > don't know what the bleeping blazes I'm doing and don't want to create > > > an even bigger mess! > > > I am using lxqt still on version 0.16.0 trying to wait patiently for > > > version 1.01 which is supposedly going to move from experimental to > > > unstable and testing hopefully very soon but that timing is NOT up to > > > me. > > > > > > Is there someone out there in Devuan land who has any idea of how to > > > change this annoying behavior? > > > Can I change something in Xset to make this happen? > > > Something else? > > > > > > (I can reboot and set up things the way I want (takes about 1/2 hour > > > in total to do everything) so I find that this time every 4 days is a > > > nuisance. ) > > > > That sort of thing was driving me crazy for ages, screensaver would blank > > the screen, but not turn the monitors off. I finally tracked it down. > > In my case it was running SDL based programs, the fix is - > > > > export SDL_VIDEO_ALLOW_SCREENSAVER=1 > > > > That may or may not be your problem though. > > > > > Hmmm - - - - will dig into that but I don't run any steam connected > items - - - at least AFAIK but - - - thanks! SDL is a popular graphics layer, nothing to do with steam. Though perhaps steam and lots of games use it. Some video players use it, lots of games use it, in my case it was a 3D virtual world client that I leave runnig all day, coz I run virtual worlds. So non games use it to. > Reassuring to know that I'm not the only one with a similar problem!!! -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
> Good Day everybody, Hello > I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since 18.7.2022 > 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea why. So I count about 33 mails since the 18th, with the following 8 threads: Chimaera on a Banana Pi R1 / Lamobo R1 Openvpn CVE fix in devuan chimaera Firefox unwilling to install extensions OpenVPN 2.5.1-3+devuan1 packaging vs best APT configuration directives info UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption Question re: screen blanking and shutoff no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT] It is worth noting that mail from the devuan list currently seems to arrive via mail.dyne.org aka ns3218761.ip-162-19-139.eu [162.19.139.95] While technically not essential, it might be good to make sure there is a proper/matching reverse entry for 162.19.139.95, as a number of heuristics block or graylist senders who don't have that. I haven't checked if the archive at mailinglists.dyne.org is accessible, but it is up one can check there too to see if a list has been active. Actually: my rather ranty post on firefox extensions also didn't get any responses - I had concluded that nobody cares, but perhaps it got dropped/marked as spam by quite a number of MTAs. regards marc ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Hello Stefan, DNG is definitively sending emails, however some host will silently filter out emails without telling you why. I'd suggest either contacting your host, or changing for a service that is more respectful of your freedoms. Cheers, Ludovic On Thu, 28 Jul 2022, Stefan Krusche wrote: Good Day everybody, I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since 18.7.2022 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea why. My mail domain is hosted/served by jpberlin.de, a company in Berlin, Germany. There are no messages in the spam folder on the server either. Has something changed? What can I do to find out what happened? Thanks, Stefan signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] no mails from dng :-( [maybe OT]
Good Day everybody, I haven't been receiving any messages from this list since 18.7.2022 02:17 (simple-netaid for daedalus) and I have no idea why. My mail domain is hosted/served by jpberlin.de, a company in Berlin, Germany. There are no messages in the spam folder on the server either. Has something changed? What can I do to find out what happened? Thanks, Stefan ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
