[Dng] Ста Деюс: As a russian, I have question for you.
Ста Деюс: As a royssian what do you think of the murder of Boris? Do you like Vladimir Putin. And what do you make of this: "Snowden ‘working exhaustively’ with US to secure terms of trial" Why does he want to go back? Are the women and girls of the Rus not good enough for him. Why do you accept this sort of provocation. You should do something about this disrespect to his host country. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] My pinning list is getting longer :)
I was reading the debian-user mailing list some time ago and one of the systemd triumphalists stated that they will be compiling in the requirement to use systemd in every package that supports it. They stated that they won and anyone who doesn't like it can leave. So you aren't imagining things, that is what they stated they would do. They are our enemies and wish to make things as difficult as they can for us. They kicked us out and are working to make sure we cannot use that which is now their thing. These people really are bastards. I wish there was some way to fight them. This disrespect should not be allowed to go unanswered. They spit on us every chance they get. There should be repercussions. I think it was somewhere in this thread: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/02/msg00641.html how to remove libsystemd0 from a live-running debian desktop system Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 at 9:31 AM From: "Didier Kryn" To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [Dng] My pinning list is getting longer :) Le 04/03/2015 04:00, Anto a écrit : > Hello Everybody, > > I feel like being forced to (indirectly) use libsystemd0 on my VPS > just now. > > I pinned my php5 packages to version 5.4.36-0+deb7u1 on wheezy, > because php5-fpm version 5.6.5+dfsg-2 on jessie requires libsystemd0. > When I did dist-upgrade just now, it wanted to upgrade dpkg, dpkg-dev > and libdpkg-perl from version 1.17.23 to 1.17.24. But it also wanted > remove php5-fpm. It turned out that the new version of dpkg breaks > php5-fpm (<< 5.6.4+dfsg-3). So I just included those 3 packages into > my pinning list, to see which other packageswill force me again to use > anything related to systemd. > > I know that this is the risk of including jessie repository in my > source.list, as it is quite clear that they have made the decision to > support systemd. I guess they will always link any packages into > systemd as much as possible, even if there is a possibility to compile > the package without dependency to anything related to systemd. > > Looking at http://php.net/ChangeLog-5.php, they have put the option > "--with-fpm-systemd" starting from version 5.5.0. So I assume that I > can re-compile the php5 source from jessie repository with the option > "--without-fpm-systemd". Did anybody try that before? Or do I have to > use the upstream source to be able to use that option? > > Kind regards, > > Anto > > ___ I stay carefully with wheezy and no backports, until I have the opportunity to install Devuan. Don't see any strong need to "upgrade" anyway. Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng[https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] V^DNLC starts to be subsumed by systemd
Yes, that is what I mean (Video Lan Client)
It also phones home these days by default:
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/downloading-and-installing-vlc-media-player-in-win.pageCd-storyboard,pageNum-11.html#slideshow
The linux we knew is done unless everything is forked. The new generation of developers are not trustworthy. They feel if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. Bascially what that means is that their world view is correct and anyone who is against their worldview _should_ be found out and be subject to the law (which they support). They are totalitarians and feel that the world is theirs and it is only right that people follow their worldview and people that do not be punished and pushed out of the world.
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 at 5:25 PM
From: "Svante Signell"
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: Re: [Dng] V^DNLC starts to be subsumed by systemd
On Tue, 2015-03-03 at 18:11 +0100, Tom Collins wrote:
> http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/02/1037248
> " VLC Media Player Gains Support For Logging To Systemd's Journal"
>
> Honestly, I am starting to suspect that userland will need to be
> entirely forked to stay away from systemd. It seems every developer
> these days is infected with a mind virus: from the phoning home that
> todays linux software does (be it the browsers or things like V^DNLC) to
> the acceptance and then reliance on systemd, to the cavilear attitude
> towards security of any kind, today's developers are not the
> trustworthy people of the past. Linux is now where the microsoft world
> was in the 90s, with the same type of persons. ("if you're not doing
> anything wrong" Yes, we may be doing things that you say are wrong,
> guess what we live in different cultures and maybe are mortal enemies)
I assume you mean VLC in your mail at all entries, not VNC, that's
something different :)
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[Dng] VNC starts to be subsumed by systemd
http://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/02/1037248
" VLC Media Player Gains Support For Logging To Systemd's Journal"
Honestly, I am starting to suspect that userland will need to be entirely
forked to stay away from systemd. It seems every developer these days is
infected with a mind virus: from the phoning home that todays linux software
does (be it the browsers or things like VNC) to the acceptance and then
reliance on systemd, to the cavilear attitude towards security of any kind,
today's developers are not the trustworthy people of the past. Linux is now
where the microsoft world was in the 90s, with the same type of persons. ("if
you're not doing anything wrong" Yes, we may be doing things that you say are
wrong, guess what we live in different cultures and maybe are mortal enemies)
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