Re: [DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions [trash icon fix]

2020-03-28 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Sun, 22 Mar 2020 17:53:17 +0100 - al3xu5 / dotcommon :

> Yesterday I dist-upgrade ASCII 2.1 (MATE DM) to Beowulf, following [1].
> 
> [...]
>
> 5. Some MATE problems:
> 
> [...]
> 
> 5.2. The trash icon don't work as expected anymore: if the trash can contains
> data then the full-trash icon and its label are displayed; when empty, there
> isn't any trash icon bau the label is still in place. I suppose this is a
> problem with the theme and/or the svg icon being used (but I cannot figure out
> which one is among the many svg trash icons in /usr/share/icons ...)


I have found a solution.

The problem occurs due a rendering issue related to an improper reference in the
SVG empty-trash icon
/usr/share/icons/gnome-colors-common/scalable/places/user-trash.svg

On around line 710 of the svg file there is a reference to
`filter:url(#filter3625)`
which doesn't exist in this svg file. 
Deleting that filter reference fixes the problem. 

see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1645368

Regrads

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Re: [DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-23 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Mon, 23 Mar 2020 09:42:59 + - Mark Hindley :

> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:32:44AM +0100, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote:
> > > Does `apt install libpam-elogind' fix it?  
> > 
> > Hum... that's what I have:
> > 
> > ~~~
> > $ sudo apt-get install libpam-elogind
> > Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
> > Generazione albero delle dipendenze   
> > Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
> > I seguenti pacchetti aggiuntivi saranno inoltre installati:
> >   elogind libelogind0
> > I seguenti pacchetti saranno RIMOSSI:
> >   libsystemd0
> > I seguenti pacchetti saranno aggiornati:
> >   elogind libelogind0 libpam-elogind
> > 3 aggiornati, 0 installati, 1 da rimuovere e 1 non aggiornati.
> > ~~~
> > 
> > It sounds good... Should I apply?  
> 
> Within the limits of my Italian ;), it looks good.

Ooops... sorry I neglected to translate or specify...

I have run 'apt-get install libpam-elogind': elogind libelogind0 libpam-elogind 
were updated (and libsystemd0 has been removed); but not calf-plugins.


> I will have to look further as to why this needs an explicit command. Did you 
> `apt upgrade' or `apt full-upgrade'?

None of this. I did:

# apt-get dist-upgrade 

(as suggested in
https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/upgrade-to-beowulf) 

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Re: [DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-23 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Sun, 22 Mar 2020 19:29:28 -0400 - fsmithred :

> On 3/22/20 12:53 PM, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote:
> > Hi all
> > 
> > Yesterday I dist-upgrade ASCII 2.1 (MATE DM) to Beowulf, following [1].  
> 
> > 
> > Now I have: 
> > ~~~
> > $ uname -a
> > Linux computer0 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian
> > 4.6.4-1~bpo8+1 (2016-08-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux  
> 
> You can do one of two things to get the beowulf kernel - either install
> linux-image-amd64, which is a metapackage that will always install the
> latest available kernel, or you can install the kernel by the full package
> name, currently linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64.

I am using a -rt-amd64 kernel (for audio-related needs), so the kernel package
which I am interested to should be: linux-image-4.19.0-8-rt-amd64

I haven't installed it yet because the system is stable and I would like to
avoid problems because I'm using it for remote working. I will update the
kernel during next ween-end...

> If you do the latter, stay alert to when -9 comes out. You won't get it
> automatically.

If you mean I will need to update it manually, I will do it...


> > 2. Having upower installed, I have downgraded upower packages as suggested
> > in [1], to avoid problems like bug#394 [2] which seems mainly related to
> > cinnamon. But I do not have cinnamon... So what I should do? Downgrade or
> > not? If not, how to disable downgrading of those packages? 
> 
> Take the downgrade. It's not really a downgrade; it's an upgrade to a
> lower-numbered version. (We no longer need to fork upower.)

Ah ok. Great.


Thanks a lot for your advices.

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Re: [DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-23 Thread Mark Hindley
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:32:44AM +0100, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote:
> > Does `apt install libpam-elogind' fix it?
> 
> Hum... that's what I have:
> 
> ~~~
> $ sudo apt-get install libpam-elogind
> Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
> Generazione albero delle dipendenze   
> Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
> I seguenti pacchetti aggiuntivi saranno inoltre installati:
>   elogind libelogind0
> I seguenti pacchetti saranno RIMOSSI:
>   libsystemd0
> I seguenti pacchetti saranno aggiornati:
>   elogind libelogind0 libpam-elogind
> 3 aggiornati, 0 installati, 1 da rimuovere e 1 non aggiornati.
> ~~~
> 
> It sounds good... Should I apply?

Within the limits of my Italian ;), it looks good.

I will have to look further as to why this needs an explicit command. Did you 
`apt upgrade' or `apt full-upgrade'?

Mark
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Re: [DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-23 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Hi Mark


Sun, 22 Mar 2020 18:28:21 + - Mark Hindley :

> > 1- There is one aspect of the upgrade that I don't think is in place, and
> > that I would like to point out: elogind, libelogind0, libpam-elogind have
> > not been upgraded; indeed these packages are marked as 'upgradable'. How
> > should I manage this situation?  
> 
> To help us work out why, what does `apt policy libsystemd0 libelogind0 elogind
> libpam-elogind' produce?

See below (calf-plugins also was not upgraded):

~~~
$ apt policy libsystemd0 libelogind0 elogind calf-plugins
libsystemd0:
  Installato: 241-7~deb10u3
  Candidato:  241-7~deb10u3
  Tabella versione:
 244.3-1~bpo10+1 100
100 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports/main amd64 Packages
 *** 241-7~deb10u3 500
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
libelogind0:
  Installato: 234.4-2
  Candidato:  241.4-2
  Tabella versione:
 241.4-2 500
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
 *** 234.4-2 100
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
elogind:
  Installato: 234.4-2
  Candidato:  241.4-2
  Tabella versione:
 241.4-2 500
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
 *** 234.4-2 100
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
calf-plugins:
  Installato: 0.0.60-4+b1
  Candidato:  0.90.1-2
  Tabella versione:
 0.90.1-2 500
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
 *** 0.0.60-4+b1 100
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
~~~

> Does `apt install libpam-elogind' fix it?

Hum... that's what I have:

~~~
$ sudo apt-get install libpam-elogind
Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
Generazione albero delle dipendenze   
Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
I seguenti pacchetti aggiuntivi saranno inoltre installati:
  elogind libelogind0
I seguenti pacchetti saranno RIMOSSI:
  libsystemd0
I seguenti pacchetti saranno aggiornati:
  elogind libelogind0 libpam-elogind
3 aggiornati, 0 installati, 1 da rimuovere e 1 non aggiornati.
~~~

It sounds good... Should I apply?

 
> > 3. Programs with a graphic display started complaining about the warning
> > "Couldn't register with accessibility bus: ..." [3][4]. Putting 'export
> > NO_AT_BRIDGE=1' in /etc/environment seems to have blocked the alerts. I
> > don't know if it's a real solution or just a workaround that doesn't solve
> > the underlying problem.  
> 
> They are harmless. But installing at-spi2-core ought to make them disappear.

at-spi2-core was already installed...


Thanks


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Re: [DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-22 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 3/22/20 12:53 PM, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Yesterday I dist-upgrade ASCII 2.1 (MATE DM) to Beowulf, following [1].

> 
> Now I have: 
> ~~~
> $ uname -a
> Linux computer0 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.6.4-1~bpo8+1
> (2016-08-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux

You can do one of two things to get the beowulf kernel - either install
linux-image-amd64, which is a metapackage that will always install the
latest available kernel, or you can install the kernel by the full package
name, currently linux-image-4.19.0-8-amd64.

If you do the latter, stay alert to when -9 comes out. You won't get it
automatically.


> 2. Having upower installed, I have downgraded upower packages as suggested in
> [1], to avoid problems like bug#394 [2] which seems mainly related to 
> cinnamon.
> But I do not have cinnamon... So what I should do? Downgrade or not? If not,
> how to disable downgrading of those packages? 
> 

Take the downgrade. It's not really a downgrade; it's an upgrade to a
lower-numbered version. (We no longer need to fork upower.)

That's all I've got. Hope it helps.

fsmithred


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Re: [DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-22 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 05:53:17PM +0100, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Yesterday I dist-upgrade ASCII 2.1 (MATE DM) to Beowulf, following [1].
> 
> Overall, the upgrade appears to have gone well; the process has completed and
> the system is fully functional. But there are some details (maybe minor 
> issues)
> I would like to report, also with some questions.
> 
> Now I have: 
> ~~~
> $ uname -a
> Linux computer0 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.6.4-1~bpo8+1
> (2016-08-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> $ lsb_release -a
> No LSB modules are available.
> Distributor ID:   Debian
> Description:  Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)
> Release:  3
> Codename: beowulf
> ~~~
> 
> 1- There is one aspect of the upgrade that I don't think is in place, and that
> I would like to point out: elogind, libelogind0, libpam-elogind have not been
> upgraded; indeed these packages are marked as 'upgradable'. How should I 
> manage
> this situation?

To help us work out why, what does `apt policy libsystemd0 libelogind0 elogind
libpam-elogind' produce?

Does `apt install libpam-elogind' fix it?

> 2. Having upower installed, I have downgraded upower packages as suggested in
> [1], to avoid problems like bug#394 [2] which seems mainly related to 
> cinnamon.
> But I do not have cinnamon... So what I should do? Downgrade or not? If not,
> how to disable downgrading of those packages?

It applies to upower in general. #394 is just an example. If you don't want the
new packages, do nothing and apt will not install them.

> 3. Programs with a graphic display started complaining about the warning
> "Couldn't register with accessibility bus: ..." [3][4]. Putting 'export
> NO_AT_BRIDGE=1' in /etc/environment seems to have blocked the alerts. I don't
> know if it's a real solution or just a workaround that doesn't solve the
> underlying problem.

They are harmless. But installing at-spi2-core ought to make them disappear.

I will leave teh MATE and theme questions to others with more expertise!

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[DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-22 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Hi all

Yesterday I dist-upgrade ASCII 2.1 (MATE DM) to Beowulf, following [1].

Overall, the upgrade appears to have gone well; the process has completed and
the system is fully functional. But there are some details (maybe minor issues)
I would like to report, also with some questions.

Now I have: 
~~~
$ uname -a
Linux computer0 4.6.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 4.6.4-1~bpo8+1
(2016-08-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description:Devuan GNU/Linux 3 (beowulf)
Release:3
Codename:   beowulf
~~~

1- There is one aspect of the upgrade that I don't think is in place, and that
I would like to point out: elogind, libelogind0, libpam-elogind have not been
upgraded; indeed these packages are marked as 'upgradable'. How should I manage
this situation?

2. Having upower installed, I have downgraded upower packages as suggested in
[1], to avoid problems like bug#394 [2] which seems mainly related to cinnamon.
But I do not have cinnamon... So what I should do? Downgrade or not? If not,
how to disable downgrading of those packages? 

3. Programs with a graphic display started complaining about the warning
"Couldn't register with accessibility bus: ..." [3][4]. Putting 'export
NO_AT_BRIDGE=1' in /etc/environment seems to have blocked the alerts. I don't
know if it's a real solution or just a workaround that doesn't solve the
underlying problem. 

4. After the upgrade, gtk has lost the font configuration, meaning that gtk
applications had a generic sans font with an almost illegible minimum size. I
suppose it's due to a change in the gtk theme. I solved it by manually setting
font and size using Gtk-ChTheme.

5. Some MATE problems:

5.1. MATE shows a very *huge* amount of errors in .xsession-errors

5.2. The trash icon don't work as expected anymore: if the trash can contains
data then the full-trash icon and its label are displayed; when empty, there
isn't any trash icon bau the label is still in place. I suppose this is a
problem with the theme and/or the svg icon being used (but I cannot figure out
which one is among the many svg trash icons in /usr/share/icons ...)

5.3. MATE (1.20.4) has changed its default typeface which now is the *ugly*
Cantarell, as used in Gnome 3 [5]. Since I don't really like Cantarell, I had
to manually revert default MATE fonts to DejaVu...


Please let me know your suggestions.

Regards

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[1] https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/upgrade-to-beowulf
[2] https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=394
[3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1056820
[4]
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/532585/getting-dbind-warnings-about-registering-with-the-accessibility-bus
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantarell_(typeface)


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