Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 03:56:18PM +0100, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba wrote: > Hi KatolaZ. > > Just for curiosity, in case this has a simple and fast response, > ¿Any idea why it didn't fail in rescue mode? > > I find it 'interesting', because AFAIK there should be no difference > among runlevels in this case. ¿Or it should? > > Thanks, > Salo. Sorry but I have no clue on that. Maybe that openrc has additional checks on service scripts, which are not put in place if you manually run them? (Just wondering, indeed, since I have not have the opportunity to test this). HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
On 2/9/19 4:00 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > Just to confirm that eudev_3.2.7-6 is now in Beowulf (and in > unstable). This should solve the issue. Please upgrade and report. just replied to the bug that everything works as expected with newer version. reporting it here on the list as well. thanks, d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
Hi KatolaZ. Just for curiosity, in case this has a simple and fast response, ¿Any idea why it didn't fail in rescue mode? I find it 'interesting', because AFAIK there should be no difference among runlevels in this case. ¿Or it should? Thanks, Salo. El Sat, 9 Feb 2019 15:00:04 +0100 KatolaZ escribió: > On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 12:39:34PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > >On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 01:23:11PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > > On 2/9/19 12:01 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > > > > What you seem to have in common is openrc (while I am on vanilla > > > > sysvinit). You should check that the udev/eudev service script is in > > > > place and/or it is trying to run the correct thing. > > > > > > i think i found the problem. it's just a typo most probably. > > > > > > line 5 in /etc/init.d/eudev , change unmountroot -> umountroot > > > > > > tried broken version 3.2.7-5 again and saw just a flash of a message > > > during boot: "eudev requires unmountroot" or something similar, and > > > eudev failed. then checked init.d/eudev and show the typo. replaced it, > > > and i was able to boot correctly with newer version. > > > > Good Dimitris. Will fix it and rebuild eudev. Will keep you posted. > > > > Just to confirm that eudev_3.2.7-6 is now in Beowulf (and in > unstable). This should solve the issue. Please upgrade and report. > > Thanks > > KatolaZ > -- Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba s...@gpoc.es -=- buscando empleo desde 1988 -=- www.gpoc.es PGP: 3F87 CCE7 8B35 8C06 E637 2D57 5723 9984 718C A614 pgpYFQjQ2ar3A.pgp Description: Firma digital OpenPGP ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 12:39:34PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > >On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 01:23:11PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > On 2/9/19 12:01 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > > > What you seem to have in common is openrc (while I am on vanilla > > > sysvinit). You should check that the udev/eudev service script is in > > > place and/or it is trying to run the correct thing. > > > > i think i found the problem. it's just a typo most probably. > > > > line 5 in /etc/init.d/eudev , change unmountroot -> umountroot > > > > tried broken version 3.2.7-5 again and saw just a flash of a message > > during boot: "eudev requires unmountroot" or something similar, and > > eudev failed. then checked init.d/eudev and show the typo. replaced it, > > and i was able to boot correctly with newer version. > > Good Dimitris. Will fix it and rebuild eudev. Will keep you posted. > Just to confirm that eudev_3.2.7-6 is now in Beowulf (and in unstable). This should solve the issue. Please upgrade and report. Thanks KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
>On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 01:23:11PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 2/9/19 12:01 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > > What you seem to have in common is openrc (while I am on vanilla > > sysvinit). You should check that the udev/eudev service script is in > > place and/or it is trying to run the correct thing. > > i think i found the problem. it's just a typo most probably. > > line 5 in /etc/init.d/eudev , change unmountroot -> umountroot > > tried broken version 3.2.7-5 again and saw just a flash of a message > during boot: "eudev requires unmountroot" or something similar, and > eudev failed. then checked init.d/eudev and show the typo. replaced it, > and i was able to boot correctly with newer version. Good Dimitris. Will fix it and rebuild eudev. Will keep you posted. Thanks KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
On 2/9/19 12:01 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > What you seem to have in common is openrc (while I am on vanilla > sysvinit). You should check that the udev/eudev service script is in > place and/or it is trying to run the correct thing. i think i found the problem. it's just a typo most probably. line 5 in /etc/init.d/eudev , change unmountroot -> umountroot tried broken version 3.2.7-5 again and saw just a flash of a message during boot: "eudev requires unmountroot" or something similar, and eudev failed. then checked init.d/eudev and show the typo. replaced it, and i was able to boot correctly with newer version. # apt policy eudev eudev: Installed: 3.2.7-5 thanks, d signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 01:40:16AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > > - init system > > openrc 0.40.3-1 > What you seem to have in common is openrc (while I am on vanilla sysvinit). You should check that the udev/eudev service script is in place and/or it is trying to run the correct thing. My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
Hi Alessandro. El Sat, 9 Feb 2019 00:40:41 +0100 Alessandro Selli escribió: > On 09/02/19 at 00:13, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba wrote: > > Hi Alessandro. > > > > El Fri, 8 Feb 2019 21:53:44 +0100 > > Alessandro Selli escribió: > > > >> This afternoon I happened to be surprised I could not use my > >> laptop's GUI because the screen was unresponsive to both keyboard and > >> mouse. The laptop was not frozen though, a clock in the DM display was > >> running. > >> > >> Logging-in from another PC [...] > > In common situations there is no need to login from another PC. > > You can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 (handled by the kernel, not by the X system) > > to get a text console (Alt-F7 to go back to the graphics). > > > Which side of: "the screen was unresponsive to both keyboard and > mouse" was not clear? 'the screen' is not clear to me. I suspect it means something else that is not a screen, because screens are not in charge of responding to keyboards or mouses. The kernel does it, Xorg also does it. I'm not sure of whether eudev can be responsible of locking the keyboard management functions of the kernel, and of course I may be wrong, but if Ctrl-Alt-F1 doesn't work, maybe the issue is not precisely related to 'stopped eudev prevents Xorg for working', as suggested by the subject. I think it may be a point to take into account. Just that. Cheers, Salo. -- Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba s...@gpoc.es -=- buscando empleo desde 1988 -=- www.gpoc.es PGP: 3F87 CCE7 8B35 8C06 E637 2D57 5723 9984 718C A614 pgpRsFyWm4PB0.pgp Description: Firma digital OpenPGP ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
On 2/9/19 1:08 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > - DE MATE fully upgraded ( 1) only keep mate-power-manager pinned from hezeh.org/ascii due to bug #240, and 2) mate-utils still in 1.20.1-1 (beowulf), due to unmet dependencies of the debian package in merged -debian issue, check debian package page-. > - session manager mate-session-manager 1.20.2-1 > - login manager elogind 239.3+20190131-1 > - init system openrc 0.40.3-1 > - kernel version 4.19+102 > - sysvinit version 2.93-7+devuan1 if there's anymore info needed, glad to help out, but so far i've found no other relative log entries about it. thanks, d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
On 09/02/19 at 00:13, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba wrote: > Hi Alessandro. > > El Fri, 8 Feb 2019 21:53:44 +0100 > Alessandro Selli escribió: > >> This afternoon I happened to be surprised I could not use my >> laptop's GUI because the screen was unresponsive to both keyboard and >> mouse. The laptop was not frozen though, a clock in the DM display was >> running. >> >> Logging-in from another PC [...] > In common situations there is no need to login from another PC. > You can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 (handled by the kernel, not by the X system) > to get a text console (Alt-F7 to go back to the graphics). Which side of: "the screen was unresponsive to both keyboard and mouse" was not clear? Not even Caps Lock, Num Lock or Scroll Lock leds were functioning! The only way was logging in from another machine. -- Alessandro Selli VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave firma e cifratura PGP/GPG signing and encoding key: BA651E4050DDFC31E17384BABCE7BD1A1B0DF2AE signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
On 09/02/19 at 00:08, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 12:38:06AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: >> hey, >> >> On 2/8/19 10:53 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >>> � I shut down the DM, started eudev manually and I could recover the GUI. >>> >> it was also reported in the forum today : >> https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2653 >> and a bug report yesterday : >> https://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=290 >> > I know, but any additional information would be useful (since I am > currently unable to reproduce the issue). E.g.: > > - DE XCFE with wdm as DM > - session manager xfce4-session > - login manager I take it's elogind > - init system sysvinit-core + openrc > - kernel version Happens both with the stock 4.19.0-1-amd64 one and a custom 4.20.5 one. > - sysvinit version 2.93-7+devuan1 -- Alessandro Selli VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave firma e cifratura PGP/GPG signing and encoding key: BA651E4050DDFC31E17384BABCE7BD1A1B0DF2AE signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
On 2/9/19 1:13 AM, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba wrote: > In common situations there is no need to login from another PC. > You can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 (handled by the kernel, not by the X system) > to get a text console (Alt-F7 to go back to the graphics). unforunately, k/b is not responding to any keys, so this is not applicable. only powerbutton works (keeping it pressed for a few seconds to poweroff). k/b works in recovery mode. but yes, this tip is valid for other scenarios. d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
Hi Alessandro. El Fri, 8 Feb 2019 21:53:44 +0100 Alessandro Selli escribió: > This afternoon I happened to be surprised I could not use my > laptop's GUI because the screen was unresponsive to both keyboard and > mouse. The laptop was not frozen though, a clock in the DM display was > running. > > Logging-in from another PC [...] In common situations there is no need to login from another PC. You can press Ctrl-Alt-F1 (handled by the kernel, not by the X system) to get a text console (Alt-F7 to go back to the graphics). This is valid for most standard configurations. -- Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba s...@gpoc.es -=- buscando empleo desde 1988 -=- www.gpoc.es PGP: 3F87 CCE7 8B35 8C06 E637 2D57 5723 9984 718C A614 pgpy44NrrJdq0.pgp Description: Firma digital OpenPGP ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 12:38:06AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > hey, > > On 2/8/19 10:53 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > > � I shut down the DM, started eudev manually and I could recover the GUI. > > > > it was also reported in the forum today : > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2653 > and a bug report yesterday : > https://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=290 > I know, but any additional information would be useful (since I am currently unable to reproduce the issue). E.g.: - DE - session manager - login manager - init system - kernel version - sysvinit version - Thanks KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
grep eudev /var/log/messages returned nothing, on /var/log/syslog I only got a few instances of: Feb 8 20:17:13 wkstn05 vmunix: [ 2.508284] udevd[213]: starting eudev-3.2.2 On 08/02/19 at 23:34, KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> Hello, >> >> This afternoon I happened to be surprised I could not use my >> laptop's GUI because the screen was unresponsive to both keyboard and >> mouse. The laptop was not frozen though, a clock in the DM display was >> running. >> >> Logging-in from another PC I found out Xorg's log lacked any line >> about keyboard and mouse configuration. This was due to the fact eudev >> failed to start at boot. >> >> I shut down the DM, started eudev manually and I could recover the GUI. >> >> > Hi, > > any logs about eudev activity or errors would be more than > welcome. Thanks > > KatolaZ > > P.S.: I am on beowulf and using the same version of eudev, and have no > problems with X. There must be something interacting with the new > version of eudev. > > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Alessandro Selli VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave firma e cifratura PGP/GPG signing and encoding key: BA651E4050DDFC31E17384BABCE7BD1A1B0DF2AE signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
hey, On 2/8/19 10:53 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > � I shut down the DM, started eudev manually and I could recover the GUI. > it was also reported in the forum today : https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2653 and a bug report yesterday : https://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=290 d. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > Hello, > > This afternoon I happened to be surprised I could not use my > laptop's GUI because the screen was unresponsive to both keyboard and > mouse. The laptop was not frozen though, a clock in the DM display was > running. > > Logging-in from another PC I found out Xorg's log lacked any line > about keyboard and mouse configuration. This was due to the fact eudev > failed to start at boot. > > I shut down the DM, started eudev manually and I could recover the GUI. > > Hi, any logs about eudev activity or errors would be more than welcome. Thanks KatolaZ P.S.: I am on beowulf and using the same version of eudev, and have no problems with X. There must be something interacting with the new version of eudev. -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Beowulf: eudev does not start at boot, making Xorg unusable
Hello, This afternoon I happened to be surprised I could not use my laptop's GUI because the screen was unresponsive to both keyboard and mouse. The laptop was not frozen though, a clock in the DM display was running. Logging-in from another PC I found out Xorg's log lacked any line about keyboard and mouse configuration. This was due to the fact eudev failed to start at boot. I shut down the DM, started eudev manually and I could recover the GUI. -- Alessandro Selli VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave firma e cifratura PGP/GPG signing and encoding key: BA651E4050DDFC31E17384BABCE7BD1A1B0DF2AE signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
