Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Jaromil]

On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, Edward Bartolo wrote:

> > whichever bugs I might in your work, not the fact that your are
> > doing good work here.

> I beg your pardon for that, I was tired from trolling, it can happen.

we have had plenty of trolling and takes time to settle the nerves to a
normal state. Now I am very happy to read this diatribe came to mutual
understanding. Ed is a valuable member of this community, he is well
focused to develop an important software application which will benefit
any free desktop operating system out there.

at last my suggestion for a name is 'netplug' but I also like netbarx
nevermind for the typos and distortions. netbark is a nice one actually
:^D


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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Edward Bartolo]

Hi,

Although, some comments were mean, I apologize for my behaviour. This
apology has to be taken in the light, that I wish Devuan to continue
developing into a distribution, that can be used by all those who
respect freedom of choice. As I am one of those who became uneasy with
the introduction of systemd and the way it is taking over what we know
of Linux, I makes sense that I forget, but I am no living human
perfection.

Hopefully, many accept this apology.

Edward


On 07/02/2016, Adam Borowski  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 02:26:16AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Feb 2016 01:27:26 +0100, aitor_czr wrote:
>> > On 02/06/2016 07:27 PM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:
>> > > On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 19:03 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>> > >> >Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only
>> > >> >change the name of the project.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!!
>> > >> >
>> > > Please Edward, Peter is no scumbag. Read what he suggests instead.
>> > > And calm down!
>> >
>> > Peter Olson is not offending you. I don't understand your anger.
>>
>> ..he may have taken offence from my comment on the name,
>> which he may have interpreted as "netbark", I never meant
>> to offend him or anyone else here.
>
> The offence is right, as instead of referring to useless creatures we should
> pay homage to the Master Species instead and name netman "netmeow".
> 
>
> But really, it's getting ridiculous.
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 13:34:11 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 
<20160206133411.74d85...@nb6.lan>:

> On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 01:46:21 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message 
> <56b5425d.6020...@gnuinos.org>:
> 
> > On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux  wrote:
> > > Every name I came up with was already in multiple use.  I also
> > > thought of netbarx which is completely unique.  Kinda like it
> > > actually.
> > >
> > > golinux
> > 
> > IMO, netbarx is the best choice :)
> > 
> >   Aitor.
> 
> ..it's immune to "netbarf"? ;o)

..it is. ;o)  

..I vote for netbarx. :o)


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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[aitor_czr]

Dear Edward,


On 07/02/2016, Arnt Karlsen  wrote:

>On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 13:34:11 +0100, Arnt wrote in message
><20160206133411.74d85...@nb6.lan>:
>

>>On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 01:46:21 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message
>><56b5425d.6020...@gnuinos.org>:
>>

>> >On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux  wrote:

>> > >Every name I came up with was already in multiple use.  I also
>> > >thought of netbarx which is completely unique.  Kinda like it
>> > >actually.
>> > >
>> > >golinux

>> >
>> >IMO, netbarx is the best choice:)
>> >
>> >   Aitor.

>>
>>..it's immune to "netbarf"? ;o)

>
>..it is. ;o)
>
>..I vote for netbarx. :o)


You can't fight against the avalanche of netbarx.

I'm a hooligan of netbarx.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 19:18:29 +0100, Svante wrote in message 
<1454782709.2888.49.ca...@gmail.com>:

> On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 19:03 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> > Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only
> > change the name of the project.
> > 
> > Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!!
> > 
> > On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson  wrote:
> > > > On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo
> > > >  wrote:
> 
> Please Edward, Peter is no scumbag. Read what he suggests instead. And
> calm down!

..also, I just wanted to point out how easily your netbarx name 
is abused, it only takes "getting one letter wrong", such cheap 
attacks will happen "just because", because they are so easy to 
do, and because the other side appears to need such political etc 
victories to compensate for the absence of their techological etc 
performance merit.


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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Sat, 06 Feb 2016 01:46:21 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message 
<56b5425d.6020...@gnuinos.org>:

> On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux  wrote:
> > Every name I came up with was already in multiple use.  I also
> > thought of netbarx which is completely unique.  Kinda like it
> > actually.
> >
> > golinux
> 
> IMO, netbarx is the best choice :)
> 
>   Aitor.

..it's immune to "netbarf"? ;o)

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Go Linux]

On Sat, 2/6/16, Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
 To: "dng" <dng@lists.dyne.org>
 Date: Saturday, February 6, 2016, 11:30 AM
 
Hi,

It is amusing to be exposed to so much appreciation of genuine users
and trolls alike. Yes, I bark quite a lot: Bow wow, ww,
grr! Wuff, wu.

However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project
after myself. I am a servant here, therefore I cannot consider myself
like a lord. Sorry for acting like this, but working for the cause of
open source software is essentially helping those who cannot afford
expensive software and expensive hardware. Yes, I know what I am
saying dissonates a lot with what the modern capitalist world
professes, but I believe firmly in a world of cooperation instead of
savage competion. The lesser gifted are no subhuman beings. They
deserve a world that helps them instead of one that punishes them for
not being gifted.

What I did, is to help, and I am satisfied of being trolled for it and
sometimes abused.

Thanks for your understanding.

Edward



Good grief.  You are NOT barx.  So how can using that combination of letters be 
naming something after 'yourself'.  In fact you are not even Edward Bartolo.  
You are a collection of physical and mental phenomena. The act of naming is 
merely a convenient convention but in reality has no substance.  Such strong 
identification with the 'self' is a deep, dark pit . . .

golinux
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Edward Bartolo]

Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only
change the name of the project.

Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!!

On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson  wrote:
>> On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo  wrote:
>>
>   [snip]
>> However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project
>> after myself. I am a servant here, therefore I cannot consider myself
>
> I would nominate netservant as the name, but alas, it has already been
> taken.
>
> It seems to me that focusing on 'net' is a red herring.  The name doesn't
> really
> have to map to the function.  The name should be memorable once it is
> discovered, which includes punning.  That encourages word-of-mouth
> propagation.
>
> I suggest people look at
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_butlers
> for some ideas.
>
> Peter Olson
>
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Svante Signell]

On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 19:03 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only
> change the name of the project.
> 
> Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!!
> 
> On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson  wrote:
> > > On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo 
> > > wrote:

Please Edward, Peter is no scumbag. Read what he suggests instead. And
calm down!
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Hendrik Boom]

On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 06:30:38PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> It is amusing to be exposed to so much appreciation of genuine users
> and trolls alike. Yes, I bark quite a lot: Bow wow, ww,
> grr! Wuff, wu.
> 
> However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project
> after myself.

What I like about the name netbarx is that it is unique.
I think you'd have a hard time finding another project called barx.

I'm really tired, when soneone talks about a project called, say,
squid, and wondering what it is, trying to find it in google and
finding nothing but articles on cephalopoda.

A good name should be pronouncble and unique.  netman is pronouncable
bbut not unique.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Peter Olson]

> On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo  wrote:
> 
  [snip]
> However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project
> after myself. I am a servant here, therefore I cannot consider myself

I would nominate netservant as the name, but alas, it has already been taken.

It seems to me that focusing on 'net' is a red herring.  The name doesn't really
have to map to the function.  The name should be memorable once it is
discovered, which includes punning.  That encourages word-of-mouth propagation.

I suggest people look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_butlers
for some ideas.

Peter Olson
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Go Linux]

On Sat, 2/6/16, Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
 To: "dng" <dng@lists.dyne.org>
 Date: Saturday, February 6, 2016, 12:06 PM
 
 Hi All,

PUNNING will not be accepted. Those who want to use it, they can use
it to name their offspring and family members!!

I have had enough. Filter this rubbish!

Edward

On 06/02/2016, Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only
> change the name of the project.
>
> Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!!
>
> On 06/02/2016, Peter Olson <pe...@peabo.com> wrote:
>>> On February 6, 2016 at 12:30 PM Edward Bartolo <edb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>   [snip]
>>> However, my ethical principles do not permit me to name the project
>>> after myself. I am a servant here, therefore I cannot consider myself
>>
>> I would nominate netservant as the name, but alas, it has already been
>> taken.
>>
>> It seems to me that focusing on 'net' is a red herring.  The name doesn't
>> really
>> have to map to the function.  The name should be memorable once it is
>> discovered, which includes punning.  That encourages word-of-mouth
>> propagation.
>>
>> I suggest people look at
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_butlers
>> for some ideas.
>>
>> Peter Olson
>>
>




Predictably, wrong thinking and self-identification leads to anger.  Yawn. 
Human history in a nutshell.  All the technology of our 'evolved' species 
doesn't change that fact that we are still looking through the wrong end of the 
periscope . . .

golinux
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[KatolaZ]

On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 06:21:23PM +, Go Linux wrote:

[cut]

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Predictably, wrong thinking and self-identification leads to anger.  Yawn. 
> Human history in a nutshell.  All the technology of our 'evolved' species 
> doesn't change that fact that we are still looking through the wrong end of 
> the periscope . . .
> 

+1

HND

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[KatolaZ]

On Sat, Feb 06, 2016 at 07:03:12PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Whether you like it, systemd TROLL or NOT, it is me who can only
> change the name of the project.
> 
> Keep punning for your family members, SCUMBAG!!!
> 

If you had read his email, instead of just throwing insults to him,
you would have realised that Peter was not throwing any pun at you. 

Since the choice of this bloody name is just yours, I don't get why
you are making all this fuss about asking people what they think, and
letting they believe that you are really interested in their
opinion. 

Go name whatever you want as you like, but please stop pretending that
you care about what others have to say, because it is obvious that you
don't give a shit.

HND

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Go Linux]

On Fri, 2/5/16, aitor_czr <aitor_...@gnuinos.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.
 To: "Edward Bartolo" <edb...@gmail.com>, "Teodoro Santoni" 
<asbras...@gmail.com>, dng@lists.dyne.org
 Date: Friday, February 5, 2016, 10:41 AM
 
 El 05/02/16 a las 17:14, Teodoro Santoni <asbras...@gmail.com> escribió:
> Although I'd prefer butplug, I suggest netrunner, netvan, igign, ethcable.
> Netbarx is a cool name, though.

I also thought in Netrunner, but there is a distribution with this name: 
Netrunner OS.

  Aitor.




Every name I came up with was already in multiple use.  I also thought of 
netbarx which is completely unique.  Kinda like it actually.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[aitor_czr]

El 04/02/16 a las 21:17, edward Bartolo  escribió:

El 04/02/16 a las 21:17, edward Bartolo  escribió:Hi All,
>
>I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several
>pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial
>projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a
>unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper
>sites.
>
>I am suggesting this name:
>nm-devuan for network manager Devuan.
>
>I am open to other suggestions.
>
>Edward


I did a google search of *NetBat* and it doesn't exist.

*Bat* means *One* in basque language.

Do you like it?

Gero arte!

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[aitor_czr]

El 03/02/16 a las 08:30, Edward Bartolo  escribió:

Hi All,

I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several
pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial
projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a
unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper
sites.

I am suggesting this name:
nm-devuan for network manager Devuan.

I am open to other suggestions.

Edward


How about:

  netc-manager

because it's written in C.

Aitor.




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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Hendrik Boom]

On Fri, Feb 05, 2016 at 09:47:45PM +0100, shraptor wrote:
> On 2016-02-05 21:12, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I will NOT name the project after myself; I even abstained from
> >voting. My project was written to HELP; I am not after
> >self-appraisal...
> 
> That's too bad cause I honestly think netbarx is a real good name.
> I urge you to reconsider, at least let it be included in vote.

I never associated barx with the author's name.  I thought of my dear 
late dog, who was always exploring everything he encountered.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[aitor_czr]

On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux  wrote:

Every name I came up with was already in multiple use.  I also thought of 
netbarx which is completely unique.  Kinda like it actually.

golinux


IMO, netbarx is the best choice :)

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Steven W. Scott]

+1

SWS
On Feb 5, 2016 7:46 PM, "aitor_czr"  wrote:

> On 02/05/2016 07:18 PM, Go Linux  
> wrote:
>
> Every name I came up with was already in multiple use.  I also thought of 
> netbarx which is completely unique.  Kinda like it actually.
>
> golinux
>
>
> IMO, netbarx is the best choice :)
>
>  Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[aitor_czr]

On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Edward Bartolo  wrote:

Hi All,

I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several
pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial
projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a
unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper
sites.

I am suggesting this name:
nm-devuan for network manager Devuan.

I am open to other suggestions.

Edward


More choices:

 net1manager

- Aitor.


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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Edward Bartolo]

Hi All,

It nice to learn from trolls that my little "pitbull", netman, is a
thorn deeply in their side. But, let us discuss the new name, so that
users would find it more readily while searching the internet. Yes,
trolls do not like this move which shows it is a good move.

What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D


Thanks to all Trolls.
Your feedback is much appreciated. :D

Edward

On 03/02/2016, aitor_czr  wrote:
> Changing the Subject :)
>
>> On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green  wrote:
>>> Edward Bartolo wrote:
 >I am suggesting this name:
 >nm-devuan for network manager Devuan.
>>> I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it,
>>> as long as people from other communities
>>> will probably use it too.
>>>
>>> netconman for Network Connections Manager
>>> would be nice.
>>
>
> 'Netconman' is very similar to the existing 'connman', and 'Network
> Connections Manager' is too long.
>
> Another choice:
>
> *nm-tools*
>
> Cheers,
>
> Aitor.
>
>
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[aitor_czr]

On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green  wrote:

I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it,
as long as people from other communities
will probably use it too.


+1

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[dev1fanboy]

The current name sounds decent, maybe you could host the tarballs on sf.net so 
people can find it there. 

On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 7:05 AM, Edward Bartolo  wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several
> pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial
> projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a
> unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper
> sites.
> 
> I am suggesting this name:
> nm-devuan for network manager Devuan.
> 
> I am open to other suggestions.
> 
> Edward
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[aitor_czr]

On 03/02/16 13:00, Florian Zieboll  wrote:

I was going to suggest GUIP (from gui and ip)


Mmmh..., there is a backend which works without requiring any gui.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Svante Signell]

On Wed, 2016-02-03 at 08:05 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several
> pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial
> projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a
> unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper
> sites.
> 
> I am suggesting this name:
> nm-devuan for network manager Devuan.
> 
> I am open to other suggestions.

What about netmgr? The current name netman gives associations on having to do
with manual stuff.
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[fsmithred]

On 02/03/2016 05:48 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D
> 

The cat lovers among us might prefer Netmanx.
Or...  Edbarx Netmanx.


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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[aitor_czr]

On 03/02/16 13:00, fsmithred  wrote:

What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D
>

The cat lovers among us might prefer Netmanx.
Or...  Edbarx Netmanx.


fsr


I like 'Netmanx'.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Florian Zieboll]

On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:48:43 +0100
Edward Bartolo  wrote:

> Thanks to all Trolls.
> Your feedback is much appreciated. :D


Ho Edward,

actually I didn't want to share my first spontaneous idea, but now I
kind of have to, although you sometimes seem to excessively like
getting things wrong ;) 

I was going to suggest GUIP (from gui and ip). A quick web search then
led me to the urbandict, which says that this unique combination of
letters is already being used in a rather unfavorable sense.

In exactly this sense: Let's leave "transmuting into organic fertilizer"
to the fraudsters and break up this boring and somehow quite exhausted
"network - connection - manager" triangle...

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[David Harrison]

On 03/02/2016 12:00, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:

In exactly this sense: Let's leave "transmuting into organic fertilizer"
to the fraudsters and break up this boring and somehow quite exhausted
"network - connection - manager" triangle...


+1 on "connection" and "manager"...

Let's take a moment to grossly oversimplify what the software does! It 
helps you put things up, inspect them, and take them down again. What 
other tools allow that? How about "net-peg" or "net-pin"?


Or, looking around my work area desperately for similar metaphors, 
"net-sticker" or "cable-tie" :)


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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[aitor_czr]

On 03/09/2021 11:07 PM, aitor_czr wrote:

On 03/02/16 13:00, Florian Zieboll  wrote:

I was going to suggest GUIP (from gui and ip)


Mmmh..., there is a backend which works without requiring any gui.

   Aitor.


Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Edward Bartolo]

Hi,

If the new name is not unique, it doesn't help much to rename netman
as potential users will still find difficulty locating it. One
particular reply suggested me to upload the source tarball to sf.net
which is a good idea and which I am considering.

I am trying to help potential users of netman, because writing an open
source software project just to upload it somewhere where it is
virtually inaccessible, does not make sense especially considering the
many hours I sacrificed to write and debug it.

Please, stop associating my motivation to make netman known to stroke
my ego: this is NOT the case. At my age, I do not need to stroke my
ego, but I do want others to benefit from my own work even though I
will not get paid for it. This is the spirit of writing projects for
causes like Devuan.

I would also like to add, that at this age, writing a project like
netman, will not affect my carrier or my potential earnings. I do not
possess enough resources to make use of my newly gained experience
collaborating with Devuan notwithstanding it adds another item to my
CV.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Hendrik Boom]

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 04:36:36PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 11:24:16AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> 
> [cut]
> 
> > > 
> > > I suggest netwiz. Or ifwiz, which does not exist on google. I would
> > > avoid ipwiz, since there apparently exists already a tool named ipwiz
> > > for macosx.
> > 
> > Ah.  The interactive wizards that run your system for you.
> > A trendy name, suitable if you like the Windows approach.
> > So let netwiz be the GUI front end, and let netmgr be the back end.
> > Let us install one without the other, and write new front ends far 
> > into the future.
> 
> Eheheheh! I didn't have in mind Windows at all when I suggested ifwiz,
> to be honest :) I haven't seen a Windows installation in the last 15
> years or so, so if there are wizards over there, their power has not
> had any effect on me lately. Or perhaps I should put back on my
> tinfoil-hat...
> 
> The only "wizard" I remember was an icon in the front page of the
> setup tool of KDE 1.something  :D

Not absolutely sure, but Windows was the first place I saw where people
routinely ended up using setup wizards (that was what they were 
called, wizards) to do incomprehensible things to their systems when 
installing software or hardare or such.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Hendrik Boom]

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 02:48:07PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> 
> What about netmgr? The current name netman gives associations on having to do
> with manual stuff.

I like netmgr and netmanx.

"mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is.

And netmanx is fun.  But I think netmgr is more descriptive.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Ron]

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:50:46 +0100
aitor_czr  wrote:

> Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again.

In that case, could you let us know what name was finally chosen ?   ;-3)
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Emiliano Marini]

netman was great.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:50 AM, aitor_czr  wrote:

> On 03/09/2021 11:07 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
>
> On 03/02/16 13:00, Florian Zieboll  
> wrote:
>
> I was going to suggest GUIP (from gui and ip)
>
>
> Mmmh..., there is a backend which works without requiring any gui.
>
>Aitor.
>
>
> Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again.
>
>Aitor.
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[KatolaZ]

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:41:53PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote:
> On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom  wrote:
> >I like netmgr and netmanx.
> >
> >"mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is.
> >
> >And netmanx is fun.  But I think netmgr is more descriptive.
> >
> >-- hendrik
> 
> My vote is for netmgr :)
> 
>   Aitor.

I suggest netwiz. Or ifwiz, which does not exist on google. I would
avoid ipwiz, since there apparently exists already a tool named ipwiz
for macosx.

My2Cents

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[aitor_czr]

On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom  wrote:

I like netmgr and netmanx.

"mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is.

And netmanx is fun.  But I think netmgr is more descriptive.

-- hendrik


My vote is for netmgr :)

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[dev1fanboy]

If you are set on changing the name, maybe devuan network manager (DNM). 

Cheers,

chillfan

On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 7:05 AM, Edward Bartolo  wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I did a google search for netman but I was presented with several
> pages of results always pointing to other similarly named commercial
> projects. Therefore, I am thinking about changing netman's name into a
> unique name so that users would be able to be directed to the proper
> sites.
> 
> I am suggesting this name:
> nm-devuan for network manager Devuan.
> 
> I am open to other suggestions.
> 
> Edward
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[dev1fanboy]

I think having a web page associated with the sf.net account will help too, 
some simple html tricks might help it to come up a little bit in the google 
rankings, and maybe try the same for other search engines like duckduckgo if it 
won't hurt your google ranking to do so. It could be helpful regardless of a 
name change, I still sometimes look at sf.net when I'm wanting to find new 
software. 

Cheers,

chillfan

On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 9:39 PM, Edward Bartolo  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> If the new name is not unique, it doesn't help much to rename netman
> as potential users will still find difficulty locating it. One
> particular reply suggested me to upload the source tarball to sf.net
> which is a good idea and which I am considering.
> 
> I am trying to help potential users of netman, because writing an open
> source software project just to upload it somewhere where it is
> virtually inaccessible, does not make sense especially considering the
> many hours I sacrificed to write and debug it.
> 
> Please, stop associating my motivation to make netman known to stroke
> my ego: this is NOT the case. At my age, I do not need to stroke my
> ego, but I do want others to benefit from my own work even though I
> will not get paid for it. This is the spirit of writing projects for
> causes like Devuan.
> 
> I would also like to add, that at this age, writing a project like
> netman, will not affect my carrier or my potential earnings. I do not
> possess enough resources to make use of my newly gained experience
> collaborating with Devuan notwithstanding it adds another item to my
> CV.
> 
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[aitor_czr]

On 02/03/2016 04:41 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI 
 wrote:

Sorry, i'm sending messages from the future once again.

In that case, could you let us know what name was finally chosen ?   ;-3)
  
Cheers,
  
Ron.


Very sharp :)

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Ismael L. Donis Garcia]

My vote is also netmgr

Best Regards

| ISMAEL |

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To: Edward Bartolo ; Hendrik Boom ; dng 
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Subject: Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.


On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote:

I like netmgr and netmanx.

"mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is.

And netmanx is fun.  But I think netmgr is more descriptive.

-- hendrik

My vote is for netmgr :)

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Hendrik Boom]

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 02:51:14PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:41:53PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote:
> > On 02/03/2016 03:28 PM, Hendrik Boom  wrote:
> > >I like netmgr and netmanx.
> > >
> > >"mgr" is more suggestive of manager than "man" is.
> > >
> > >And netmanx is fun.  But I think netmgr is more descriptive.
> > >
> > >-- hendrik
> > 
> > My vote is for netmgr :)
> > 
> >   Aitor.
> 
> I suggest netwiz. Or ifwiz, which does not exist on google. I would
> avoid ipwiz, since there apparently exists already a tool named ipwiz
> for macosx.

Ah.  The interactive wizards that run your system for you.
A trendy name, suitable if you like the Windows approach.
So let netwiz be the GUI front end, and let netmgr be the back end.
Let us install one without the other, and write new front ends far 
into the future.

-- hendrik

> 
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> 
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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[KatolaZ]

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 11:24:16AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:

[cut]

> > 
> > I suggest netwiz. Or ifwiz, which does not exist on google. I would
> > avoid ipwiz, since there apparently exists already a tool named ipwiz
> > for macosx.
> 
> Ah.  The interactive wizards that run your system for you.
> A trendy name, suitable if you like the Windows approach.
> So let netwiz be the GUI front end, and let netmgr be the back end.
> Let us install one without the other, and write new front ends far 
> into the future.

Eheheheh! I didn't have in mind Windows at all when I suggested ifwiz,
to be honest :) I haven't seen a Windows installation in the last 15
years or so, so if there are wizards over there, their power has not
had any effect on me lately. Or perhaps I should put back on my
tinfoil-hat...

The only "wizard" I remember was an icon in the front page of the
setup tool of KDE 1.something  :D

HND

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Adam Borowski]

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 10:39:17PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> If the new name is not unique, it doesn't help much to rename netman
> as potential users will still find difficulty locating it.

You really want a name that lets an user googling for it show only related
pages -- as this is what users do when they have trouble.  Sadly, "netman"
is already taken by a quite large number of software projects and services.

> One particular reply suggested me to upload the source tarball to sf.net
> which is a good idea and which I am considering.

Sounds redundant with github to me.

> I am trying to help potential users of netman, because writing an open
> source software project just to upload it somewhere where it is
> virtually inaccessible, does not make sense especially considering the
> many hours I sacrificed to write and debug it.
> 
> Please, stop associating my motivation to make netman known to stroke
> my ego: this is NOT the case. At my age, I do not need to stroke my
> ego, but I do want others to benefit from my own work even though I
> will not get paid for it. This is the spirit of writing projects for
> causes like Devuan.

Having more users means more testers, more contributors.  Thus, you do
benefit from having your software widely available.

I'd strongly recommend not making netman Devuan-specific.  If you get it
into Debian, it will migrate to most derivatives.  And even a small
percentage of that is some serious user base.

At first, I'd propose putting the package into experimental, until you
consider it ready for wider use.

As there are DDs on this mailing list, having netman accepted into Debian is
something we can help with.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:54:53 +0100
aitor_czr  wrote:

> On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green  wrote:
> > I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it,
> > as long as people from other communities
> > will probably use it too.  
> 
> +1
> 
> Aitor.

That was my first thought too, and I almost wrote it.

But then I started to think: If it were called nm-devuan, that would
certainly let people know that Devuan is more than just a few
malcontents playing whack-a-mole with Debian and Freedesktop.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Steve Litt]

On Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:48:43 +0100
Edward Bartolo  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> It nice to learn from trolls that my little "pitbull", netman, is a
> thorn deeply in their side. But, let us discuss the new name, so that
> users would find it more readily while searching the internet. Yes,
> trolls do not like this move which shows it is a good move.
> 
> What about: "nm-pitbull" in honour of the trolls? :D
> 
> 
> Thanks to all Trolls.
> Your feedback is much appreciated. :D

What trolls? I haven't seen a troll in this thread.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Adam Borowski]

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 12:40:25PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Feb 2016 09:54:53 +0100
> aitor_czr  wrote:
> 
> > On 02/03/2016 08:30 AM, Mitt Green  wrote:
> > > I don't think it should contain Devuan word in it,
> > > as long as people from other communities
> > > will probably use it too.  
> > 
> > +1
> 
> That was my first thought too, and I almost wrote it.
> 
> But then I started to think: If it were called nm-devuan, that would
> certainly let people know that Devuan is more than just a few
> malcontents playing whack-a-mole with Debian and Freedesktop.

nm-devuan because it's a Devuan-specific NetworkManager plugin, got it.

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Re: [DNG] Change netman into another name.

[Edward Bartolo]

Hi,

> On 03/02/2016, KatolaZ  wrote:
> I still don't understand why you persist asking for feedback if then
> you don't tolerate feedback that is not in line with what you
> expect.

Respondents are free to write clearly why they choose a name implying
a joke or a pun. I cannot read minds, therefore, I have to be
contented with the actual literal meaning of replies.

> I understand that everyone is proud of their own little
> babies, but I pesonally find more interesting names which suggest a
> pun, either implicitly of explictly.

Proud of what? I am not that kind of person. Netman had only proven
that I could do it with some help. It is immature and childish to be
proud like that: the world does not need to revolve around me; I am
only an organism with a lifespan of around seventy years living on a
planet that is 5500 Million Years old. My existence is therefore
effectively nothing.

> Conman would be a nice joke, IMHO, exactly because of it explicitly
> suggesting "fraudster" while being something else, but obviously you
> are free to name your little baby as you want.

Humour is vastly culture dependent.

> Just don't get why you
> want to share your personal murmurations about your own choice, given
> that you don't want anybody to interfere with such choice in practice,

This is false.

While I was writing the project I was open to many suggestions. I even
implemented ideas with which I was in disagreement. The "obstinacy" on
my part was always the result of failing to follow suggestions due to
unexpected output from commands which meant I could NOT follow those
suggestions. So, in those situaitions I had to find a way out by
myself. The reason for this "obstinacy" is I couldn't allow myself to
waste time if another solution was more time efficient for me.

> you get terribly upset if somebody makes a joke out of it...

I didn't get upset. For example, today, I didn't quit using the
computer because I got upset, but because I had other errands. My life
involves more than using a computer:  I have to eat every day and that
requires me to earn a living which takes time.

Edward
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