Re: [DNG] Chimaera Oddities

2021-11-16 Thread Ken Dibble

On 11/9/21 7:21 PM, Ken Dibble wrote:

On 10/28/21 12:36 PM, Ken Dibble wrote:

A couple of oddities.


The uas driver does not like the JMicron Sata/USB 3 bridge.

Bus 004 Device 003: ID 152d:0578 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron 
USA Technology Corp. JMS567 SATA 6Gb/s bridge



I updated to the 5.14 kernel from backports and the craziness with the 
disk being unreadable


and not recognizing formats seems to have stopped.


The I/O rate is horrible (35MB/s) with the JMicron Bridge and a 2.5 
velociraptor which WD says gets


up to 200MB/s sustained , although I have have only seen in the 140s.


I have a Weme bridge ordered which claims to be linux compatible, 
should be here next week.



We'll see what happens.



The Weme  bridge arrived.  Linux compatible?  Well, the ASM chip in it 
is listed in the kernel's built in blacklist.  So, I would say no, but 
it seems to work without the uas driver.


The underlying cause seems to be my USB 3 cards themselves.  They use a 
Renasas uPD720200 chip, which I have been unable to update the firmware 
through Linux, Dos, or Windows.


Unfortunately both of the machines in question had this card installed.

I did however find a USB 3 card with a Renasas uPD720202 chip in my pile 
of expansion cards and both bridges appear to work even if on the kernel 
blacklist.


So all of this stuff goes in the 'iffy' pile of hardware.  I am not 
willing to trust it or a manufacturer whose definition of compatible is 
that the computer doesn't go up in flames when used.  Tape is slow, but 
my hardware has never complained about working the midnight shift and 
tape has always been reliable for me.



Ken


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Re: [DNG] Chimaera Oddities

2021-11-09 Thread Ken Dibble

On 10/28/21 12:36 PM, Ken Dibble wrote:

A couple of oddities.


The uas driver does not like the JMicron Sata/USB 3 bridge.

Bus 004 Device 003: ID 152d:0578 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron 
USA Technology Corp. JMS567 SATA 6Gb/s bridge



I updated to the 5.14 kernel from backports and the craziness with the 
disk being unreadable


and not recognizing formats seems to have stopped.


The I/O rate is horrible (35MB/s) with the JMicron Bridge and a 2.5 
velociraptor which WD says gets


up to 200MB/s sustained , although I have have only seen in the 140s.


I have a Weme bridge ordered which claims to be linux compatible, should 
be here next week.



We'll see what happens.


Ken

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Re: [DNG] Chimaera Oddities

2021-10-30 Thread ael via Dng
On Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 10:04:20AM -0400, Ken Dibble wrote:
> Well, it kind of works on chimaera, but the i/o is limited to 6MB/s.
> 
> Blacklisting it results in full speed 140MB/s +-.
> 
> Are you getting normal i/o speeds?

Well, I haven't measured, but it seems fast. Maybe I should
reach for iotop next time I have that drive connected. I would
expect the drive rather than the interface to be the limiting factor.

ael


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Re: [DNG] Chimaera Oddities

2021-10-30 Thread Ken Dibble

On 10/30/21 7:36 AM, ael via Dng wrote:

On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 12:36:19PM -0400, Ken Dibble wrote:

A couple of oddities.


The uas driver does not like the JMicron Sata/USB 3 bridge.

Bus 004 Device 003: ID 152d:0578 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA
Technology Corp. JMS567 SATA 6Gb/s bridge
  
Works here on debian testing:

# lsusb  -s 004:002
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 152d:0567 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA
Technology Corp. JMS567 SATA 6Gb/s bridge

# lsmod |grep uas
uas32768  1
usb_storage81920  1 uas
usbcore   331776  8 
xhci_hcd,ehci_pci,usb_storage,uvcvideo,ehci_hcd,btusb,xhci_pci,uas
scsi_mod  262144  6 sd_mod,usb_storage,uas,libata,sg,sr_mod

# uname -srvm
Linux 5.14.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.14.9-2 (2021-10-03) x86_64


Well, it kind of works on chimaera, but the i/o is limited to 6MB/s.

Blacklisting it results in full speed 140MB/s +-.

Are you getting normal i/o speeds?

Thanks

Ken

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Re: [DNG] Chimaera Oddities

2021-10-30 Thread ael via Dng
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 12:36:19PM -0400, Ken Dibble wrote:
> A couple of oddities.
> 
> 
> The uas driver does not like the JMicron Sata/USB 3 bridge.
> 
> Bus 004 Device 003: ID 152d:0578 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA
> Technology Corp. JMS567 SATA 6Gb/s bridge
 
Works here on debian testing:
# lsusb  -s 004:002
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 152d:0567 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA
Technology Corp. JMS567 SATA 6Gb/s bridge

# lsmod |grep uas
uas32768  1
usb_storage81920  1 uas
usbcore   331776  8 
xhci_hcd,ehci_pci,usb_storage,uvcvideo,ehci_hcd,btusb,xhci_pci,uas
scsi_mod  262144  6 sd_mod,usb_storage,uas,libata,sg,sr_mod

# uname -srvm
Linux 5.14.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.14.9-2 (2021-10-03) x86_64

ael

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[DNG] Chimaera Oddities

2021-10-28 Thread Ken Dibble

A couple of oddities.


The uas driver does not like the JMicron Sata/USB 3 bridge.

Bus 004 Device 003: ID 152d:0578 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA 
Technology Corp. JMS567 SATA 6Gb/s bridge



I blacklisted the the device as follows and all seems to work as expected.

cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist_uas.conf

options usb-storage quirks=174c:5136


There seems to be a problem with df.  I have three machines running 
chimaera andthe oddity only happens  on one.


kdibble@anna:~$ apt list coreutils
Listing... Done
coreutils/stable,now 8.32-4+b1 amd64 [installed]


kdibble@anna:~$ uname -a
Linux anna 5.10.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.70-1 (2021-09-30) x86_64 
GNU/Linux


kdibble@anna:~$ cat /etc/issue
Devuan GNU/Linux 4 \n \l

kdibble@anna:~$ df
df: /run/user/1000/doc: Operation not permitted
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
udev 6094116    0   6094116   0% /dev
tmpfs    1224600 1060   1223540   1% /run
/dev/sda1  114792580  5642064 103273168   6% /
tmpfs   5120    4  5116   1% /run/lock
tmpfs    4965560    0   4965560   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdb6  239709796 53920084 173540320  24% /home
tmpfs    1224596   12   1224584   1% /run/user/1000


There also seems to be a problem with the grub graphical display on the

machine with /boot on a disk and / on a pci nvme card. Still trying to run

down the details. Forcing it to a non graphical display makes the errors 
go away


the machine boots  either way, so it hasn't been a priority.

Thanks.

Ken

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