Re: [DNG] Clear communication (Was: Debian testing drop redis)

2017-10-29 Thread John Hughes

On 29/10/17 00:41, Patrick Meade wrote:

On 10/28/2017 02:06 AM, John Hughes wrote:
While keeping your eyes peeled is obviously a good thing please 
remember the downsides of crying wolf when the wolf isn't there.


Clear communication is also a good thing. Perhaps the words

"[D]rops the Debian-specific support for ... in favour of using systemd"

were not the best choice of words to summarize something that was

"not a sysvinit-specific change"


Perhaps.

In poor light a dog can look look a wolf.  Do you cry "wolf!"  or use a 
flashlight?


Personally I'm in favour of light.  Some others prefer heat.

Anyway, this horse is dead, time to stop beating it.


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Re: [DNG] Clear communication (Was: Debian testing drop redis)

2017-10-28 Thread Patrick Meade

On 10/28/2017 02:06 AM, John Hughes wrote:
While keeping your eyes peeled is obviously a good thing please remember 
the downsides of crying wolf when the wolf isn't there.


Clear communication is also a good thing. Perhaps the words

"[D]rops the Debian-specific support for ... in favour of using systemd"

were not the best choice of words to summarize something that was

"not a sysvinit-specific change"

or to communicate that

"this change is completely initsystem agnostic".

In fact, the change itself was actually fine, but a summary like "in 
favour of using systemd" will provoke a strong negative reaction on DNG 
because those words don't mean "initsystem agnostic" to most DNG readers.


Patrick
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